Well, bowling is done.. I guess you could do it again, but it would basically be the same thing, right? Well, let's try something new like milking cows and eating sandwiches, that might get some people interested.
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Betting time: Do you think the Switch will be a success?
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Well, bowling is done.. I guess you could do it again, but it would basically be the same thing, right? Well, let's try something new like milking cows and eating sandwiches, that might get some people interested.
ShadowKhaN
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I was full of hope before yesterday, Now I 100% believe the switch is dead on arrival.
Such a shame.
Such a shame.
ChronotriggerJM
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I don't think so. I just don't see a market for a product like this.
I'd love to be wrong though. A popular Nintendo would be great for the industry.
I'd love to be wrong though. A popular Nintendo would be great for the industry.
Because it's not called Wii U.
2Smashed4U
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I think a lot of people STILL underestimate how much that game really represented why the Wii sold. I had friends that would come over every weekend for seriously months and months on end to play Wii Sports.
I would guess a pretty significant chunk of the sales of the Wii were truly Wii Sports sales.
randomengine
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This system has some genuinely fun games even at launch. I think I will pick up like at least 5 games at launch which is more than any other launch of a system - and I have been there for them all - including the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast.
The actual retail copy of Binding of Isaac will be mine. I will buy Skyrim and Disgaea 5, which I passed on for the tethered systems. I will also get Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon 2. I am going to have a ton of great games to play on this system.
The actual retail copy of Binding of Isaac will be mine. I will buy Skyrim and Disgaea 5, which I passed on for the tethered systems. I will also get Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon 2. I am going to have a ton of great games to play on this system.
this post summarized my thoughts as well
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bomb
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couldn't be farther from the truth.
SmoothRunningGun
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It will do fine after a few price drops and the library of games grow. It's not going to take off like the PS4 did.
randomengine
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haha the irony of your name being bomb. You know a thing or two about bombs.
All those other systems had a good third party push at the start. I am wary of Nintendo because of the Wii U, and right now the Switch isn't looking much better.
The Dreamcast had some amazing games at launch.
dcx4610
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This sums it up. Ridiculously overpriced for what you are getting and the future of the system looks bleak with it getting nothing but 360 and Wii U ports and Nintendo games. With a Pro Controller, it's nearly the price of a PS4 Pro except 2-3 generations behind. Madness.
I'm stealing this from another post but It would be like buying a DVD player in 2017 only to watch Disney movies for the same price as a 4k Blu-ray player that can play everything. Who in the world is going to buy this thing other than diehard Nintendo fans or people will money to blow and how long can Nintendo operate with only that demographic? Maybe it's a huge hit with casuals but I think they are satisfied with their smart phones.
Hey, Wii Sports is fun. But even then, that magic and the crowd that it captured is long gone. Which is why it is beyond embarrassing and even a little bit sad to see them still trying to recapture that with god-awful 'games' like 1-2 Switch. This is honestly much worse than Wii U ever thought about being for me.
randomengine
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The PS4 benefited from a competitor launching near it and then self-immolating.....well I guess the same is true for the Switch and PS4 Pro (which self-immolated). I will be interested to see the sales figures of the PS4 Pro vs. the Switch actually.
forknknife
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I really can't believe Nintendo doubled down on motion controls and did not even show a single motion controlled game in the first switch reveal trailer.
And still, somehow, they didn't think it was important enough to pack in 1 2 switch with the system!! How insane is that?
I always thought that the moron controls would be exclusively for Wii Wii U ports but they actually didn't talk about virtual console AT ALL!
Nintendo needs a freaking intervention. They really lost it.
And still, somehow, they didn't think it was important enough to pack in 1 2 switch with the system!! How insane is that?
I always thought that the moron controls would be exclusively for Wii Wii U ports but they actually didn't talk about virtual console AT ALL!
Nintendo needs a freaking intervention. They really lost it.
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bomb
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Zelda is a massive game. Impressions are that it is extremely smooth for 720P in portable mode. 3 hours is pretty darn good if that's the number.
SillyEskimo
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Nintendo is backsliding a lot and the Switch is not reversing the trend. It will sell equal to or worse than the WiiU.
Planting the Mario seed early has been a great strategy for them for decades. However, so many people skipped the WiiU I fear any kid currently 8-10ish has replaced Mario with MineCraft or some other break in type game. My 8&9 year old girls think Rayman is the greatest platformer of all time. When they have slumber parties, not a single kid mentions or requests Mario. It's MineCraft MineCraft MineCraft, and has been that way for years.
So nope, I do not see the Switch doing well unfortunately. I'm a Day 1 console purchaser, but I'm going to wait until the system has 10 games I want before buying it. So, around a year after launch hopefully? That's depressing honestly. The paid online addition makes me think I might skip it altogether. I already pay for xbl and psn.
Planting the Mario seed early has been a great strategy for them for decades. However, so many people skipped the WiiU I fear any kid currently 8-10ish has replaced Mario with MineCraft or some other break in type game. My 8&9 year old girls think Rayman is the greatest platformer of all time. When they have slumber parties, not a single kid mentions or requests Mario. It's MineCraft MineCraft MineCraft, and has been that way for years.
So nope, I do not see the Switch doing well unfortunately. I'm a Day 1 console purchaser, but I'm going to wait until the system has 10 games I want before buying it. So, around a year after launch hopefully? That's depressing honestly. The paid online addition makes me think I might skip it altogether. I already pay for xbl and psn.
Gamecube tier. I just don't see universal appeal outside nintendo die hards. It's too big to be truly portable and too underpowered to be a real contender to the current home consoles. It's a niche product by the very definition of the word. I do hope Nintendo does well with it though.
randomengine
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This will, in the end, have a fantastic set of third-party games. The DS era is proof of this. This if the first year. I don't need Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed or any other AAA-shovelware.
2Smashed4U
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I truly don't understand why Nintendo still has play this "smartest person in the room" act.
Why the gimmicks? Why all of the unnecessary BS?
Just make a regular damn console that can play your games well AND play other companies games and you would be totally fine.
I think they still have delusions that they're going to do Wii numbers again too, and they also don't understand really why the Wii sold well.
The stubbornness of Kyoto based business culture is going to be what kills them in the end.
Why the gimmicks? Why all of the unnecessary BS?
Just make a regular damn console that can play your games well AND play other companies games and you would be totally fine.
I think they still have delusions that they're going to do Wii numbers again too, and they also don't understand really why the Wii sold well.
The stubbornness of Kyoto based business culture is going to be what kills them in the end.
randomengine
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PS4 didn't get good exclusive games for the first few years. The Switch already beats PS4 at launch in terms of good exclusives and will continue to do so.
Interfectum
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It's funny that you are comparing the Switch and PS4 Pro... whatever floats your boat I guess. But by what metric did the Pro 'self-immolate?'
In the end the ps4 was a good product for the mainstream market.
When you put in the price of the Pro Controller into the equation (which is necessary) and compare it to the XBone/PSPro, it is an absolutely stunningly stupid proposition.
If none of us were devoted to playing those Nintendo IPs no one would care. This is an over-priced and underpowered heap of junk. With a gimmick no one cares about and asked for.
And I whole-heartedly agree that Nintendo's Japanese roots/mentality are absolutely what is holding it back. They have no idea how to market to the west any longer.
If none of us were devoted to playing those Nintendo IPs no one would care. This is an over-priced and underpowered heap of junk. With a gimmick no one cares about and asked for.
And I whole-heartedly agree that Nintendo's Japanese roots/mentality are absolutely what is holding it back. They have no idea how to market to the west any longer.
Insane Metal
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Wii U tier.
And I hope this is what happens for real. Stop selling shit for the price of diamonds, Nintendo.
And I hope this is what happens for real. Stop selling shit for the price of diamonds, Nintendo.
Parapraxis
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What even is this? ....are you from another dimension?
ZehDon
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Unlike the Ps4 and Xb1, the Switch isn't going to get the benefit of big titles from publishers. No Red Dead, no CoD, no Battlefield, no GTA, no FF. Nothing. So few house holds are going to buy two consoles, one to play modern games, and another to play Nintendos output. They didn't do it for the Wii U, can't see why they would do it for the Switch.
So, bombs harder than the Wii U for the first year. $199 at Holiday 2017. Pokémon and Monster Hunter eventually help it limp to ~Gamecube numbers with oversea sales. New Nintendo hardware revealed end of 2020.
So, bombs harder than the Wii U for the first year. $199 at Holiday 2017. Pokémon and Monster Hunter eventually help it limp to ~Gamecube numbers with oversea sales. New Nintendo hardware revealed end of 2020.
facetheslayer92
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It's frankly embarrassing. The higher ups clearly can't handle criticism or good advice from their own fans.
Was considering on getting one eventually to play with my little son. Guess he will have to learn to play on PC.
Sony tried to pull crap like this after PS2. And almost buried the PS brand. Nintendo is doing this after the WiiU. I was debating myself between the WiiU and the Theme Park. I finally went for the WiiU, because I don't really want to see Nintendo not doing videogames, but after today, it seems to me they are very stubborn about going out of business.
Sony tried to pull crap like this after PS2. And almost buried the PS brand. Nintendo is doing this after the WiiU. I was debating myself between the WiiU and the Theme Park. I finally went for the WiiU, because I don't really want to see Nintendo not doing videogames, but after today, it seems to me they are very stubborn about going out of business.
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bomb
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My regular PS4 is 1080p. The switch is 1080P plus 720P handheld. I feel all the complainers don't have any need or want for the portability so the Switch is DOA for them because that huge feature means nothing to them. If you just want all the R&D to go into the power of the machine for a home based console, then suprise the switch isn't for you.
People are comparing it to the Shield, which let me guess, they don't even own anyways for the same reason as I listed above.
People are comparing it to the Shield, which let me guess, they don't even own anyways for the same reason as I listed above.
-Pyromaniac-
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I voted wii u tier but that's such a low bar I probably should have picked that it will surpass it.
That audience is still there, they just aren't interested in motion controls anymore. Nintendo needed to reinvent things again, not reintroduce the same concepts they've been using for the past 10 years.
Blood Diamonds
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It has Lego City Undercover and Rayman Legends, it's not even a contest man give it up
I have no problem with the specs. The library (or lack thereof) is the issue. This needed a huge launch library.
Exactly.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Nope. They're making the exact same mistakes they did with the Wii U and then some. The price, bare bones launch line up and the complete fumbling of their online services will ensure Nintendo fans are yet again the only people that give a damn.
People who think Joycons and Zelda are going to be a good enough hook here are kidding themselves.
People who think Joycons and Zelda are going to be a good enough hook here are kidding themselves.
Nintendo always produces great software, it's their hardware that is the problem and it's been that way for a long time now. The Wii days are not coming back.
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