HylianHero12
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I think the arm cannon effects were removed because they were based on a mostly static position of the arm cannon, which is dynamic with the Wiimote aiming scheme in Trilogy.
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Metroid Prime 15 years ago, pretty impressive still for how old it is
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I think the arm cannon effects were removed because they were based on a mostly static position of the arm cannon, which is dynamic with the Wiimote aiming scheme in Trilogy.
There were only a couple of effects missing and the improvements were worth it, imo. I can't play the games without IR pointer anymore, tbqh.
sixteen-bit
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The art in this game is pretty ageless
Fredrik
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It was such an awesome game, Retro Studio came from nowhere and became the ruler of clever optimization right away, people around here claimed that Halo looked better but Metroid Prime was always my number 1 because of the art design and 60fps smoothness.
60fps wasn't really special in 2001 though, console gaming just suffered from a lowered standard from 1995 and forward and we all got used to it and forgot how it used to be. PS2 had quite a few 60fps games though but maybe not in the fps genre.
Amazing game, so polished. And I love the variety of gameplay in MP games, with the first person shooting, puzzling, adventure and then there's the bosses. Just so much fun and colourful, and all at a silky smooth 60fps 
And let that be a warning to all 20 year olds.. you might think 35 is ages away, but it'll feel like the equivalent of how long being 16 feels ago to you now.
Yeah, welcome to being old! When I was 20, 15 years ago seemed like forever ago. But now I'm 35, being 20 feels like yesterday15 years isn't as long ago as you think it is. You'll see...
And let that be a warning to all 20 year olds.. you might think 35 is ages away, but it'll feel like the equivalent of how long being 16 feels ago to you now.
WRONG! (In my opinion, but I wanted to find out how Trump feels. Pretty good, it seems.)
nkarafo
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Halo never looked as good as Metroid Prime IMO except for textures and some specific particle effects. Metroid Prime has the geometry detail though, it's so dense you never notice the lower quality textures. It also wins in art direction and frame rate.
UncleSporky
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The ice cannon freezing up was an effect rendered directly to the screen, like an FMV playing on top of the game. When you can aim all over the screen and your arm cannon can move too, there's no way to include a static effect like that without significant development on a completely new effect.
I will never, ever forget that I bought this and MK deadly alliance at the same time and was more hyped for MK. Put in prime a couple days later and my mind was blown in a way that modern games just can't do.
The shooting doesn't hold up but the rest of it is the same as it ever was - amazing.
The shooting doesn't hold up but the rest of it is the same as it ever was - amazing.
IIRC it's tied to sales. Outside of Prime and the original, most metroids are high quality but low (compared to Zelda/Mario) selling games. Unlike these series, Metroid also has a hard time moving hardware sales.
TheDinoman
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Remember that video game chart site is banned around here and is generally considered unreliable, folks.
Use this thread for Nintendo sales. I gathered up all the games with "Metroid" in the title that have sold atleast a million and ended up with this:
So only four games in this series failed to pass the 1 million mark. It's rather unfortunate how Zero Mission seemingly couldn't do the job. MP Pinball is just a throw away pinball game with Metroid slapped onto it and Other M/Federation Force speak for themselves, but ZM really deserved better.
Use this thread for Nintendo sales. I gathered up all the games with "Metroid" in the title that have sold atleast a million and ended up with this:
So only four games in this series failed to pass the 1 million mark. It's rather unfortunate how Zero Mission seemingly couldn't do the job. MP Pinball is just a throw away pinball game with Metroid slapped onto it and Other M/Federation Force speak for themselves, but ZM really deserved better.
How did the GBA games cause character assassination? The whole relationship deal with Adam could've been portrayed in a great way if Sakamoto hadn't fucked it up.
TheDinoman
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I mean, Fusion did plant the seeds for Other M. Similar setting, more focus on story, linearity, etc. It's still a good game, but in hindsight, it is a pretty grim harbinger of things to come.
The Hermit
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This is what 60fps makes to games. They hardly get old
Remember that video game chart site is banned around here and is generally considered unreliable, folks.
Use this thread for Nintendo sales. I gathered up all the games with "Metroid" in the title that have sold atleast a million and ended up with this:
So only four games failed to pass the 1 million mark. It's rather unfortunate how Zero Mission seemingly couldn't do the job. MP Pinball is just a throw away pinball game with Metroid slapped onto it and Other M/Federation Force speak for themselves, but ZM really deserved better.
So basically there is not much of an excuse.
I say given how the market for FPS games has been changing (just look at last year) Nintendo should try and release a new Prime game (that isn't a shit co-op shooter for a dying handheld).
Lionel Richie
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I don't think any game since this one or Metal Gear Solid 2 really gave me that holy shit this is next gen feel. I was 12 years old when it came out but I remember reading about it in magazines and then seeing it in motion and not believing what I was seeing.
Great fucking game. It came out 3 days earlier than Dark Alliance and Nightfire. That gen is just overpowered as fuck.
Great fucking game. It came out 3 days earlier than Dark Alliance and Nightfire. That gen is just overpowered as fuck.
I found Adam's story to be interesting until Other M fucked it all up.
A good comparison is the Star Wars prequels. It was awesome to wonder about what they would be like, until we actually saw them.
SolarMystic
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Bucket Mouse
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One of the greatest games of all time. Prime 2 is arguably even better.
Yep, it wouldn't be hailed as the all-time classic that it is if it had only run at 30 fps. Same is also true of Mario Galaxy.
SolarMystic
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Remember that video game chart site is banned around here and is generally considered unreliable, folks.
Use this thread for Nintendo sales. I gathered up all the games with "Metroid" in the title that have sold atleast a million and ended up with this:
So only four games in this series failed to pass the 1 million mark. It's rather unfortunate how Zero Mission seemingly couldn't do the job. MP Pinball is just a throw away pinball game with Metroid slapped onto it and Other M/Federation Force speak for themselves, but ZM really deserved better.
Zero Mission was fantastic. Not as good as Fusion, but still.
Have to disagree. I played both games on the GC and Wii and the motion controls are superior, IMO.
Motion controls make the games way better.
Vampirolol
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Diablohead
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It was around that time where games were suddenly pushing more polys then ever and somehow more noticible then normal, walking into a game store to see metroid prime timed demo running in a booth and being wowed by how the space station looked, it was so detailed!
Needless to say I bought the black gamecube and prime combo once it launched, I even had a unique metroid prime thing you can replace the cube logo on the console with but I lost it.
Needless to say I bought the black gamecube and prime combo once it launched, I even had a unique metroid prime thing you can replace the cube logo on the console with but I lost it.
It does? wow.
TheSpaceBetween
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The thing is, the art only got better as the series went on too. All three games look absolutely amazing due to the art direction, nice animations, and 60FPS. That, and of course, the superb overall design of the games is why they are perceived to have not aged.
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mrmickfran
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The best Metroid, and among my favorite GameCube/Gen 6 games.
Though that first trek through the Phazon Mines was brutal for me when I was younger.
No savepoints, elite troopers everywhere, poison gas trap, THREE MINIBOSSES. Shit got real.
Though that first trek through the Phazon Mines was brutal for me when I was younger.
No savepoints, elite troopers everywhere, poison gas trap, THREE MINIBOSSES. Shit got real.
Its miles better than Fusion though. Fusion had some pace killing cutscenes it was overly linear and it planted the seeds to what would eventually become Metroid Other M. Zero Mission was a incredible game. It also has the best controls in the series to date.
Diablohead
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I remember playing the game on the first night or two and shooting the wall and seeing that, being on my own in the dark I scared myself because it was completely unexpected to see her face in the visor.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Crazy to think that the last good Metroid game came out in 2007. That's 10 years ago.
What the fuck.
Also, MP1 and 2 are soooo much better with the GC controller.
What the fuck.
Also, MP1 and 2 are soooo much better with the GC controller.
Linkstrikesback
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phant0m
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Huh?
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Also I very much enjoyed playing it with the wiimote on my WiiU
But the complete inability to move and aim at the same time makes them so much more immersive!
Golgo 13
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I have to second the "damn that was 15 years ago?" sentiment that seems to be running through this thread. To this day that game remains in my top 3 "holy shit" experiences in my 30 or so years of playing video games.
I remember seeing water on your visor when you got out of water. I remember scanning the world and feeling totally invested and enriched by what I read. I remember how amazing the platforming felt and how it really still felt like Metroid. And I'll never forget blasting a enemy up close and seeing Samus' eyes on the reflection of the visor from the light. Just an inbelievable milestone in video games.
I remember seeing water on your visor when you got out of water. I remember scanning the world and feeling totally invested and enriched by what I read. I remember how amazing the platforming felt and how it really still felt like Metroid. And I'll never forget blasting a enemy up close and seeing Samus' eyes on the reflection of the visor from the light. Just an inbelievable milestone in video games.
Linkstrikesback
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At least go with the correct answer if you're going to bend the meaning.
AM2R came out in 2016
JimmyRustler
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One of my biggest gaming regrets is buying this game but never finishing it. Still feel ashamed.
Bucket Mouse
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And the Metroid drought between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime/Fusion was only 8 years.
shouamabane
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Does anybody have Mark Macdonald's EGM review?
I remember him using an analogy about Metroid Prime being a game from the future.
I remember him using an analogy about Metroid Prime being a game from the future.
Linkstrikesback
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Ceadeus
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Really? Which one? I'm curious
Actually it is better with the Gamecube controller MP1 and MP2 were not designed with the Wii remote in mind so you dont gain anything by having precise aiming. The only thing the Wii remote does do is make switching weapons and visors a much bigger pain in the ass especially against the final boss. Not to mention the GameCube controller is a much more comfortable controller to hold anyway.
Blackpuppy
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The charge effects and that was because the effects were fmvs on the GC rather than polygonal models and could not warp with the free arm movements when portef to motion controls.
The second one is a water effect in ball mode. Why is a mystery because the Wii is capable of doing it (the GC version plays just fine in Nintendont and that is 100% Wii mode).
And a visor effect.
Are you sure? The Digital Foudery video said that there isn't a difference.
Vampirolol
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You can see it in the first corridor you reach in Phendrana, just right after the elevator.
Ceadeus
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Ah ok, thank you. This game just won't ever age. A masterpiece.
Linkstrikesback
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I'm tempted to just post the wrong picture again but alright.
You can't possibly lose any control by having the wii remote option: You have the same control when in combat (there's an option to remove any movement from the reticle while locked on), and it's way better out of combat. If you need explaining why someone might want to be able to move and aim at the same time in a 3d enviroment, I don't know what ot tell you.
Switching weapons by pressing the +/- button+ a quick flick in the direction you want isn't more of a pain in the ass than having to take your hand off the analogue stick to switch beams/visor, like what?
(Melee fan trigger warning) And I also disagree on the gamecube controller being more comfortable than a wiimote. Maybe, maybe that was true when I was younger and hand smaller hands, but defintely not now. I'd much much rather be holding a wiimote+nunchuk.
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