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[Spieler Eins]

I don't exactly like post-season 10, but it couldn't be more obvious who watches the show and who's just salty over PC bros hitting too close to home.

How could anyone watch the last season and think they're not making fun of Trump? Like, what the fuck are you talking about, man?

You also gotta live in a bubble believing that trumpsters like South Park. I don't go into public comment sections often, but oh boy am I occassionally seeing them cry over what the show did.

 

[Camwi]

They are scared and I can understand why. Trump is president and has the power to go after them. And he crazy enough to actually do so.

I don't really think Matt and Trey are scared of fucking with anyone. If Trump went after them, they'd just fire back and increase their ratings.

 

[Jokergrin]

We fucking need them more than ever, to just ridicule the fuck out of Trump and bring his ego down a few pegs, I'm a huge fan of Matt and Trey and really disappointed by this

 

[Spladam]

This thread is embarassing. I have really nothing more to add.

Sometimes I forget I'm a moderate liberal and start to feel a little extreme, and I forget how much the far left have in common with the far right. Thankfully, GAF is here to set me straight again.

 

[marrec]

They are scared and I can understand why. Trump is president and has the power to go after them. And he crazy enough to actually do so.

They aren't scared, they literally gave their exact reasoning and we have no reason to doubt them.

Not everything needs to be dissected to find hidden meaning or motivations.

 

[BronsonLee]

Sounds like they don't want to get pidgeonholed on doing the same thing for three seasons and that it's like preaching to the choir at this point

They aren't scared, they literally gave their exact reasoning and we have no reason to doubt them.

Not everything needs to be dissected to find hidden meaning or motivations.

Ya they could keep doing it but they're probably bored

 

[LiK]

Kinda of a shit excuse. Just have Trump dancing with Hitler in every episode.

 

[Yoritomo]

We fucking need them more than ever, to just ridicule the fuck out of Trump and bring his ego down a few pegs, I'm a huge fan of Matt and Trey and really disappointed by this

They already did everything they could the only thing left is to just show trump and trump surrogates being tortured to death for 20 minutes each week.

That's not funny.

 

[Akuun]

I'm surprised that it's South Park doing this and not The Onion.

I expected the Onion to go "fuck this shit" a long time ago.

Though honestly, South Park can just go a lot lower effort about it. They could just have a running joke where Trump is a puppet with Putin's hand up his ass every time he's on screen, and then never directly refer to it at all in the show.

 

[Oersted]

Show Donald as a wellmannered, respected member of the society, who puts the wellbeing of others over his own.

You are welcome.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Show Donald as a wellmannered, respected member of the society, who puts the wellbeing of others over his own.

You are welcome.

 

[EVOL 100%]

From all the stuff I heard about South Park supposedly pandering to the alt-right, I never thought they'd show Trump being literally raped to death.

I know people are scared (I am too), but pegging the South Park guys as alt-right is fucking ridiculous from what I read in this thread. This is embarrassing.

 

[Kai Dracon]

TBH I'd guess half the motivation for their reason is they recognized the last season fell apart and feel the need to reboot and wipe the slate clean. I mean they even had characters talking about how South Park had gone off the rails in the last few episodes.

They're not wrong about satire having become reality. I'd be surprised though of Trump isn't done in at least a couple of episodes, just not the theme of the season.

 

[Yoritomo]

There is no amount of anger or commentary that will satisfy.

Shit is real. Stop relying on others to criticize. In this case South Park has stepped in hard and directly criticized trump. They directly begged via a Trump surrogate that people vote for Hillary instead.

If you feel like they're not doing enough, even in light of what was portrayed this last season, then y'all might be projecting a bit.

What are you doing besides pissing into the void of neogaf to combat this administration? If you want the satisfaction of resisting this bullshit you need to look up groups and protest actions that are happening in your area.

Stop asking creators to do ALL your criticizing for you. Any more aggressive resistance will come out organizing these protest and marches, so join up, and frankly anything more the South Park creators could do probably wouldn't be that funny. The trump administration means there's a fine line between actual funny satire and depressing reality.

 

[hooligan690]

Yeesh GAF is a million times worse than reddit :/

 

[Mega]

Look, I haven't watched the last season of South Park, so when I said "all sides are equally bad" I was not talking about the election, I was talking about how South Park deals with EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.

Issues that fuck up people even more than a Muslim ban like terrorism, mass murders, wars and other stuff.

Also, South Park works in a way of talking about the current news. So they NEED to talk about current news.

Their JOB as comedians is to criticize him.
To choose otherwise is either admitting that you are a shitty comedian or you are afraid of going for a fascist on power.

So they are either afraid of showing that they suck or afraid of the repercussions.

Cowards

Honestly Platy, you're very misinformed about a comedian's role and your interpretation of how the show deals with various topics is way off. If you feel different, please cite actual examples and explain how it's two sides cowardice.

 

[Infinite_Daremo]

Show Donald as a wellmannered, respected member of the society, who puts the wellbeing of others over his own.

You are welcome.

Plot twist. Crab People!

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Yeesh GAF is a million times worse than reddit :/

Don't worry..you'll be back there soon enough..😉

 

[Mechanized]

Cowards.

No. They just don't see anything funny in it, true life is worse than what they can come up with, and that's just sad.

Also I wouldn't call the people willing to make an episode featuring the prophet Muhammad cowards.

 

[ebullientprism]

Because if you aint 100% against Trump and dont attack him any chance you get, you are pro Trump.

Pretty much.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Cowards.

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No but really, WHY? They criticized everything no matter what. Trump should be fair fucking game.

South Park been making fun of Trump for 2 seasons, they essentially predicted the goldenshowers. It aint hard but when you have shows like SNL which do a decent job of satire that is aired everyweek, it makes it less worthwhile for Matt and Trey to focus all 10 episodes on Trump. Im sure when they release the new season theyll have 1-2 episode atleast based on something Trump has done.

Well no one is expecting them to have episodes about Trump daily, but they shouldn't back away from it like this.

 

[marrec]

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No but really, WHY? They criticized everything no matter what. Trump should be fair fucking game.

Cause they did up Trump already and wanna do something else?

 

[GuessMyUserName]

Like I said much earlier South Park isn't going to *entirely* stop making fun of Trump - Trump is literally Mr. Garrison right now on the show. They aren't going to stop having Mr. Garrison on the show, he's one of the most prominent characters.

For people who haven't kept up with the show, since it's become so painfully clear there's a lot of you here: when I say "Trump is literally Mr. Garrison" I mean exactly that.

This is Mr. Garrison now. He was just elected president of the united states. Sure they can get him out of it with a quick plotline but I really don't see them dropping that development immediately - probably closer to the end of the next season. In the meantime they'll probably continue to make use of him with occasional proxy Trump jokes, they just don't want it to be the entire narrative of the show.

"President Garrison" isn't a plotline you just toss away the moment you have it.

 

[Lothar]

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No but really, WHY? They criticized everything no matter what. Trump should be fair fucking game.

Are you really agreeing with the troll that people have been making fun of for 13 pages?

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

"Everyone, I need to just speak from the heart here. Uh, I don't know what the [bleep] I'm doing. I've got to come clean. I-I had no idea I would get this far, but the fact of the matter is, I should not be president. Okay? I will [bleep] this country up beyond repair. I am a sick, angry little man. Please, if you care at all about the future of our country, vote for her, okay? She's the one who at least has some experience. She's -- She's not as bad as you think. I promise. And unlike me, she's actually capable of running this country."

A Trump surrogate (sort of) broke the 4th wall and made this appeal directly to viewers. This after the 'Canadian' Donald Trump became President of Canada and was raped to death by Mr Garrison. I don't think that having Eric Cartman dropping his trousers and shitting on Trump's head on a weekly basis is going to change people's minds at this stage.

I'm sure his policies and current events will continue to be satirised, but directly attacking Trump hasn't worked for anyone, so why continue?

 

[marrec]

Like I said much earlier South Park isn't going to *entirely* stop making fun of Trump - Trump is literally Mr. Garrison right now on the show. They aren't going to stop having Mr. Garrison on the show, he's one of the most prominent characters.

For people who haven't kept up with the show, since it's become so painfully clear there's a lot of you here: when I say "Trump is literally Mr. Garrison" I mean exactly that.



This is Mr. Garrison now. He was just elected president of the united states. Sure they can get him out of it with a quick plotline but I really don't see them dropping that development immediately - probably closer to the end of the next season. In the meantime they'll probably continue to make use of him with occasional proxy Trump jokes, they just don't want it to be the entire narrative of the show.

Ya I think people are rushing to judge this statement without knowing what's actually going on.

No, Trey and Matt aren't secretly alt-right nazis, they aren't scared of reprisal, they just wanna do something else now. Since Trump is going to be in the news for the foreseeable future, they'll probably lampoon the occasional Trump story.

 

[LordKasual]

What they're saying is that it's hard to make satirical plotlines for episodes about Trump when he's literally doing the kinds of satirical things they'd make him do. They have no shortage of episodes condemning trump, i recall an entire episode devoted to him. People need to chill, they're comedians.

And anyone throwing out the word "pussy" can sit right the fuck down. They can devote entire episodes to this, they've just released a public comment about backing off (which is a public condemnation in itself), but they're cowards?

The gall of some of you is amazing. If you require a saturation of trump bashing in every corner of the media, then perhaps you should jump on that. But don't shit on people with their foot in the mud already, fucks sake

 

[Peltz]

The show hasn't been culturally relevant for over a decade. I think they're just realizing that and throwing in the towel.

 

[Dark Cloud]

They're probably scared of Trump too now that the psychopath has power and could ruin their show.

 

[March of the Crabs]

Not sure why people are so mad. They did Trump already. That'd be dumb to do it again and simply wouldn't be entertaining. If a catastrophic Trump event happens, they will parody it. No need for a whole season laughing at Trump. There are many, many shows that can do that.

It should be noted that i am from the camp that prefers non-political/non-cultural reference South Park episodes as those tend to be timeless and rewatchable.

 

[Rockandrollclown]

I assume making fun of Trump will continue, it just is not going to be the centerpiece of the show anymore. With everything they've done with Garrison/Trump, there's not a shitload left to say.

 

[Ahasverus]

Last season was trash. No more politics in SP please.

 

[Mega]

The show hasn't been culturally relevant for over a decade. I think they're just realizing that and throwing in the towel.

They mocked the Clintons, Bushes and Obama only sporadically in the course of 20 years, hundreds of episodes. They spent two seasons, nearly 20 episodes, on Trump... one person. More than any other politician, world leader, celebrity, etc. And Garrison Trump is a recurring character that will clearly continue to show up from time to time.

How is that throwing in the towel? They're just saying they don't want to dedicate another TEN episodes entirely to Trump. It wasn't funny. SNL spends mere minutes per hour mocking the Trump administration and sometimes that isn't even funny.

 

[Yoritomo]

We have a sitting president that is potentially being blackmailed by Russia with a tape or incident involving prostitutes and golden showers.

How do you satirize that without just repeating exactly what is in the news? There's no where to go from there.

They could involve poop I guess, or maybe have someone rape trump to death.

Where do you go from raping trump to death and calling the movement that elected him dumbasses that were overcome with nostalgia, for a time that they never lived in, leading to a literal fascist state complete with "real stormtroopers."

There's nothing left to say or do with it.

 

[tearsofash]

If they don't think they would do a good job, maybe its best they leave it alone.

 

[Randomizer]

Good. That last season was bad and another season were every episode is revolving around Trump/Garrison would be terrible. A few mentions throughout the season would be fine or a one off episode parodying all of his terrible policies and decisions.

They fucked up using Garrison instead of Trump himself from the outset. They obviously didn't expect Trump to become president and now they are stuck. So for the show's sake they have no choice but to back off. It has been and would continue to be detrimental to the overall quality of the show.

 

[gnomed]

While I applaud them willing to change or tackle subjects they think are becoming boring, less not forget the potty and adolescent humour of South Park. And the fact that the show has no problem beating a dead horse or I should say Kenny to death. Folks defending the creators bravery and courage are just as creduluos as the sensitive PC police they are decrying.

Oh dear, looks like my post has become rather stale. Time for me to stop posting as both sides are equally idiotic.

 

[ZealousD]

From all the stuff I heard about South Park supposedly pandering to the alt-right, I never thought they'd show Trump being literally raped to death.

I know people are scared (I am too), but pegging the South Park guys as alt-right is fucking ridiculous from what I read in this thread. This is embarrassing.

A sizable chunk of GAF has become way too knee jerk and puritist. South Park gives an explanation as to why they are backing off Trump a bit? They're alt-right Nazis. Bernie Sanders makes a point about identity politics? Bernie's an alt-right Nazi too.

And the moderators aren't policing this kind of stuff either.

 

[Yoritomo]

I'm learning to ignore the voices that want to push for purity tests and exclusion. Resistance will require a broad movement.

If you wanted to damage the left and damage groundswell of a political movement, then the best way is to prevent the movement from forming at all. You could accomplish this by dividing potential recruits and adherents.

I'm beginning to believe that a lot of these calling out other claimed liberals for breaches in being a true liberal as specifically malicious to prevent the organization of a broad movement.

 

[DarkKyo]

A sizable chunk of GAF has become way too knee jerk and puritist. South Park gives an explanation as to why they are backing off Trump a bit? They're alt-right Nazis. Bernie Sanders makes a point about identity politics? Bernie's an alt-right Nazi too.

And the moderators aren't policing this kind of stuff either.

It's pretty much online radicalization but on the polar opposite end of the alt-right/fascist/white supremacy scale. The philosophical opposite of evil or oppressive but still way too extreme to hold an intelligent or sensible conversation with.

Oh noes did I just compare "both sides"?! They're gonna come get me now.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

Is that what you would like to see happen to anybody you disagree with?

There he goes again. What are you even talking about? Why are you always so quick to assume things and be outraged? Sheesh..you're worse than the people you lecture..

Like I explained before, as humans we are more inclined to respond to things we disagree with than what we agree with, are you seriously asking me to do something that the moderators frown upon as well?

I shouldn't have to point out every single instance of idiocy in this thread to reaffirm my position, should I? Can you not go through the thread and find out for yourself? Or are you being purposely obtuse?

If I have used the word "GAF" in relation to this it would be because lately the hyperbolic nature of these discussions have been out of control, I admit it is a lazy way to group because clearly. as evidence in this thread there are plenty of level-headed posters with the ability to engage in critical thinking however you have to wade through a mountain of garbage to even get to a decent discussion because of the amount of one liner shit posts on the first few pages and it's hard to digest.

The reason I remain on Neogaf is because when you actually do have a decent discussion and find someone who is willing to engage in a respectful and thoughtful manner, even if you disagree with them, it really is the best site to have a debate because the average level of intelligence is higher here for the most part, that's just me being honest.

In other words, when civil discourse happens it's great, you know, the motto this entire site is based around but recently it has been extremely difficult to engage in this.

People need to think before they type, if you have valid criticisms of them not doing this any longer, share them, in a respectful manner, back it up with why you believe so and provide the evidence and have a debate with people who believe otherwise, if you still disagree then just agree to disagree and move on, coming in here starting with "Cowards" "Alt righters" "Fuck them" (not saying you did that by the way, I mean in general) is only going to send the discussion one way.

Right..so you're going to ignore the fact that there are more people ok with their decision than not in here, but "GAF GAF GAF" is all that's said. I just find it funny..must be that whole "obtuse" thing. Enjoy scolding people tho, mother superior..😃

 

[SugarDaddy]

I think they're just bored of it. It's not a very deep or interesting thing to routinely make fun of. Dude does enough just making his public addresses and 3 am twitter rants

 

[Melkezadek]

It's pretty much online radicalization but on the polar opposite end of the alt-right/fascist/white supremacy scale. The philosophical opposite of evil or oppressive but still way too extreme to hold an intelligent or sensible conversation with.

Oh noes did I just compare "both sides"?! They're gonna come get me now.

The inside of your ass must smell fantastic.

You claim to want to have an intelligent conversation with people while preemptively trying to shield yourself with your very weak, repackaged "both sides" argument.

Talking down to people who have a genuine reason to be angry, scared, and reactionary doesn't seem to be a genuine attempt at dialogue. This attitude seems to be common among moderates. They aren't winning anyone over with that shit.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

A sizable chunk of GAF has become way too knee jerk and puritist.

This isn't even a word, dude.

It's pretty much online radicalization .

Nah

Look, people trying to call Trey & Matt's brand of "all sides are dumber than we are" libertarianism "alt-right" are 100% wrong. They're fumbling around with terms they don't really understand, and they're not letting that stop them from swinging em wildly like a 2x4.

But that misguided and mistaken assertion isn't fucking radicalizing anyone.

 

[Mega]

If it's not 'both sides' it's 'they're alt right supporters' and now apparently its'they're cowards'

I have seen every absurd argument come up ITT:

They are alt-right and Trump supporters... against all evidence including directly telling the audience: Trump is a huge racist/sexist idiot, please vote Hillary.

They're scared of Trump!... after they mocked him mercilessly, including literal onscreen rape and murder of Trump.

Both sides!...with zero actual examples to support it. Lightly mocking Hillary vs. two seasons of Trump getting skewered nonstop isn't "two sides!"

Cowards... for not spending another two dozen episodes mocking Trump, more than any other parodied person in their show's 20 year history. Plus recurring Garrison Trump character who certainly will continue to show up.

Never were funny/relevant, at least since 200X... yet they somehow are to blame for millions of apathetic liberal voters? Wait, I thought their fanbase was alt-right/Republican? Anyway, they have a job, social obligation!, to run their show into the ground with the same stale Trump material repeated on every edgy comedy show. HOld on, why is it their job? I thought they were just a stupid irrelevant cartoon by two alt-right Trumpster hacks.

There he goes again. What are you even talking about? Why are you always so quick to assume things and be outraged? Sheesh..you're worse than the people you lecture..

Right..so you're going to ignore the fact that there are more people ok with their decision than not in here, but "GAF GAF GAF" is all that's said. I just find it funny..must be that whole "obtuse" thing. Enjoy scolding people tho, mother superior..😃

You seem as agitated as he is. I'm annoyed by some of the posts ITT and spending more time than I should reading replies (as is philosophy and you). Don't see the point in unconvincingly acting like laid back cool guy when you're as committed and rechecking this thread as everyone else.

 

[Levito]

Does anyone remember the Man-Bear-Pig episode of South Park that came out 10 years ago? The one where they were saying Al Gore and literally everyone that believes in global warming is an idiot? Yeah, look how that worked out for Matt and Trey. Look how "please stop caring about ANYTHING" worked out for them.


South Park is a cowardly show that for fucking decades has pushed "both sides are bad let's all please have a moderate circle jerk". So I'm not surprised they're being cowardly here too.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

You have literally ignored my entire point in favor of doing exactly what I expected you to do, so thank you for proving my point.

And you didn't show how the majority in here are attacking their decision which shockingly was exactly what I expected you to do..oh my gawd!

 

[hydrophilic attack]

when you call south park alt-right, it makes overly sensitive people outraged

in their outrage they make a fool out of themselves and prove me right

#SouthParkQualityHumour

 

[Yoritomo]

We're so fucked. The administration is going to roll over everyone and Liberal infighting is going to prevent any actual resistance.

Bannon was right in his characterization of liberals I guess.

Fuck.

 

[ZealousD]

The inside of your ass must smell fantastic.

You claim to want to have an intelligent conversation with people while preemptively trying to shield yourself with your very weak, repackaged "both sides" argument.

Talking down to people who have a genuine reason to be angry, scared, and reactionary doesn't seem to be a genuine attempt at dialogue. This attitude seems to be common among moderates. They aren't winning anyone over with that shit.

Criticizing the methods and language of those on the left is not the same thing as making a "both sides" argument, which was basically his point. I exist on the political left myself, and while I sympathize with the reasons for why people are angry, all too often I see other leftists using poor arguments or counterproductive language as a response to that anger, and I can't criticize that without some idiot making some accusation that I'm either an enabler for the alt-right or that I'm a member of the alt-right itself.