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What are your thoughts on Philip DeFranco?
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This is my take as well.
FearMyWrench
Member
Get this vibe as well. Honestly seems like he tilts right lately, but isn't willing to go all the way for his reputation.
"You are calling me a white supremacist?" Cant seem to find this tweet, want to link it?
Also dont see a tweet where he tells his fanbase to attack her.
hobblygobbly
Member
I agree and boogie2988 is very similar in this regard too. In fact anyone who insistently proclaims to be neutral I'm wary of, even people I meet. Nobody is neutral on political and social issues, some may not care at all but these people tend to stay out of discussion of things out of sheer apathy and practically have no opinion for good or worse (worse because at times it can uphold status quo), but the people who are always discussing and arguing but proclaim incessantly they're neutral are different, they mask it and use it to deflect criticism from many directions when appropriate. People should also not confusing them and they themselves with centrists, centrism is a position just like any other, it's not neutral. There are only some jobs in the world that expect you to be apolitical professionally but people are still political outside that environment (high ranking career military for example).
Darryl M R
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Your boy Phillip when he's not going on a rage about Liberals and "cry bullies"
Check his Wednesday video and he doesn't have to tell his fanbase; he has a huge platform and posting someone information and mentioning her employment opened the doors for his supporters to attack her. It is undeniable that he knew the result of his actions.
Check his Wednesday video and he doesn't have to tell his fanbase; he has a huge platform and posting someone information and mentioning her employment opened the doors for his supporters to attack her. It is undeniable that he knew the result of his actions.
airmangataosenai
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The guy has steadily moved closer and closer into soft peddling the alt-right on a seemingly nonpartisan channel. I am not sure if he is aware of it though.
I think he might see what he is doing as opening a discussion to bring them away from the crazy but in reality he ends up giving some really gross people mainstream cover under the guise of being a free speech champion.
I think he might see what he is doing as opening a discussion to bring them away from the crazy but in reality he ends up giving some really gross people mainstream cover under the guise of being a free speech champion.
So just because he has a huge platform, it takes away his right to respond to someone attacking him, in this case calling him a White Supremacist apoligist? Just to be clear from what you are saying, Im getting that you think Phillip is in the wrong because he has a much bigger audience and so cant reply to someone attacking him no matter what? Because his fanbase who he cant control would attack that person.
Tell me would you think the same if Phillip responded in the exact same way to a Pro-Nazi racist tweet?
Plz, correct me on anything I may have gotten wrong.
17 Seconds
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just another youtuber who loves the sound of his voice but has nothing to say
titiklabingapat
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People who stay in the middle for the sake of staying in the middle is just as bad as those actively trying to take my rights away. If not more so.
Darryl M R
Member
If you have a huge platform you should be judicious in your actions and responses that will result in online harassment. He has taken this stance before on stories he "covered." And his response was not just to her but to her employers. And let's not forget that during this same week he screenshotted a private message with someone and tweeted about it rather than responding directly to that person. He is indeed a shit person but please defend him.
Or help develop short attention spans!
Pinko Marx
Banned
I have no idea why I should care about his opinions on things. So I don't really have any strong feelings towards his content.
GrizzleBoy
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Watched one of his vids for the first time in years a week or so ago.
Was disappointed to hear his "both sides" stance.
Never really paid much attention to him before, but the fact that o don't think he really believes in the "both sides" despite his performance was disappointing.
Was disappointed to hear his "both sides" stance.
Never really paid much attention to him before, but the fact that o don't think he really believes in the "both sides" despite his performance was disappointing.
Guess Im going to have to disagree with you, she attacked him, he responded defending himself. I agree he does have some responsibility due to the bigger audience but he never ordered his fanbase to attack and has said in his videos for his followers not to harrass her. If he had resonded by calling her names, then yes I would agree he would be at fault.
So you didnt answer my question about the pro-nazi racist thing.
Darryl M R
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We punch Nazis in the face where I'm from and your facetious example isn't comparable.
Well he just made this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmr1GtdIxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wmr1GtdIxM
samoscratch
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He doesn't seem genuine to me, can never get past that, I've tried several times.
excelsiorlef
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TatteredHat
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I'm okay with him, but I don't watch his content a lot because his editing is really annoying.
Calm down, what did he do to you? I'm not propping him up, it's a common technique across all of YouTube. Plenty of people do it with video like TheNeedleDrop and people do it with audio, even GAF's darlings.
Yeah, these people aren't talk show hosts but they're not talentless. Believe it or not, there's places in between.
Hello fans who all agree with everything I say and harass the people I talk about in my videos, was I wrong? *wiink*
Oh yeah, please don't harass them for calling me out on my bullshit. Here's where they work, by the way. *wink* *wink*
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Tubey McYoutube.
Guys videos are always on trending and because of that I begrudingly know his name. In every video I have seen he never missed a checkmark from the Vlogger handbook.
Guys videos are always on trending and because of that I begrudingly know his name. In every video I have seen he never missed a checkmark from the Vlogger handbook.
excelsiorlef
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Youtube is literally a genre now...
This guy is the equivalent of some arguments you get where someone posts 15 paragraphs that say fucking nothing but they are so disingeniously crafted that people think you're actually saying something.
This guy is the equivalent of some arguments you get where someone posts 15 paragraphs that say fucking nothing but they are so disingeniously crafted that people think you're actually saying something.
4 is a cutie
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Note: I am blurring the names of the person and their workplace in this video specifically for honest debate
You should probably read the comments and the description then, because he decided that after looking at comments and discussion that he was wrong to message the employers and that keeping the video public was probably more harmful than helpful.
I mean, the guy definitely did some jerky stuff here, but he at least took a bit of criticism and changed the way he handles things, even a little. Its something at least.
unpopularblargh
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excelsiorlef
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Note: I am blurring the names of the person and their workplace in this video specifically for honest debate
But keeping her picture plastered so you know if anyone happens to recognize her or you know find an archive of my tweets.
Asshole's an asshole for just making that video, but it could have been done without pictures of the tweets, so having picture and then presenting himself like a good guy fro blurring long after the fact lol, is just that much worse
xaosslug
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pretty much. He's "being political w/o being political" which is what a lot of bigger youtubers/youtubers that belong to a network are told to do, otherwise they'll lose sponsorship or whatever.
PixelatedBookake
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I watched him a lot in high school and somewhat recently started watching his videos around the election. I think he's a genuinely good guy who gives the facts in his videos and let's the viewers decide how to interpret them. In an era of "fake news" I feel that's important. I'm not a fan of his "both sides" middle of the road opinion about certain (or most) topics, but I don't come to him for an opinion, I come for an unbiased source of information for me to interpret.
On the topic of that Twitter nonsense, I personally feel that was scummy of him. Out of all the hate he prolly gets, why choose to out this person? And then screenshots a DM and posts it to his Twitter knowing it wasn't the poster's intention to be seen. He says he gets hate from both sides all the time and decides randomly to out two people out of nowhere? He lost a lot of points from me for that.
On the topic of that Twitter nonsense, I personally feel that was scummy of him. Out of all the hate he prolly gets, why choose to out this person? And then screenshots a DM and posts it to his Twitter knowing it wasn't the poster's intention to be seen. He says he gets hate from both sides all the time and decides randomly to out two people out of nowhere? He lost a lot of points from me for that.
He's good at what he does but I don't like what he does.
Vlog commentaries are a lot like talking-head political commentary on television: reality-tv and soap-opera influenced simulations of real life.
The commentary is almost never an accurate representation of reality, almost never gives complete and proper context, and the vloggers are almost never experts.
Vlog commentaries are a lot like talking-head political commentary on television: reality-tv and soap-opera influenced simulations of real life.
The commentary is almost never an accurate representation of reality, almost never gives complete and proper context, and the vloggers are almost never experts.
Dandy Lyin
Member
Nailed it.
With teleprompters, writers, multiple cameras, crew and practice, sure. Any non-live talk show has plenty of cuttting too, it's just a lot more seamless as it can be hidden between the angles. Yeah the big youtubers could afford a setup to better avoid continuous cutting, but it's the style of editing that stuck because it works when you're starting.
Try and record a single shot where you talk at a brisk pace, directly into a camera for ten minutes without mistakes and see how long it takes to get down. Repeat daily.
You won't be able to do it.
Magnet_Man
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Never heard of him.
*Rapid camera cuts*
Done.
*Rapid camera cuts*
Done.
DontBeThatGuy
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Just no.
Inkvoterad
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I think most of the thread here said what i'm about to say in a far better manner, but yeah.
Shitty "wow so unbiased" youtuber with the personality of a peanut. But of course morons are gonna eat this shit up cause it's just too goddamn hard to read news from some form of respectable news outlet.
Don't take your news from a fucking youtube personality, atleast have some form of self respect.
Shitty "wow so unbiased" youtuber with the personality of a peanut. But of course morons are gonna eat this shit up cause it's just too goddamn hard to read news from some form of respectable news outlet.
Don't take your news from a fucking youtube personality, atleast have some form of self respect.
Fahzgoolin
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Don't always agree with him, but he's entertaining and isn't a mindless idiot.
Don't actively watch him though.
Don't actively watch him though.
17 Seconds
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wow, he actually complained about people sometimes not taking his opinion seriously because he's white. poor guy. poor, rich, white guy.
Hierophant
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does not take stances, tries to give equal view to neo nazis and monsters
in short, the essence of the white moderate, the type to set a schedule for another persons rights
he only does take stances when its neo nazis getting their free speech infringed upon, much like many here on gaf
in short, the essence of the white moderate, the type to set a schedule for another persons rights
he only does take stances when its neo nazis getting their free speech infringed upon, much like many here on gaf
Head of Vengarl
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Wow I didn't expect a majority of Gaffers to have a negative opinion of him.
I like how he tries to give you the news in an objective way, and tells you what both sides of the argument are.
Can anyone recommend a better channel that does a similar thing? I like Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee, and Seth Meyers, but their shows are entertainment -- not objective news sources. I've soured over the years toward the "mainstream" news outlets like CNN because all of them prefer to shock, scare, or push a political narrative.
I like how he tries to give you the news in an objective way, and tells you what both sides of the argument are.
Can anyone recommend a better channel that does a similar thing? I like Trevor Noah, Samantha Bee, and Seth Meyers, but their shows are entertainment -- not objective news sources. I've soured over the years toward the "mainstream" news outlets like CNN because all of them prefer to shock, scare, or push a political narrative.
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