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Disney Aims for Diversity In New 'Marvel Heroes Come In All Sizes' Campaign

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A new umbrella promotional campaign titled "Marvel Heroes Come In All Sizes" has been launched by Marvel and its sister Disney division, Disney Consumer Products & Interactive Media, reports License Global. The campaign encompasses the upcoming and current release of several comic books, movies, television shows, video games, toys, novels, and picture books.

“Whether you are big like Hulk, small like Ant-Man or smart and quick-to-action like Black Widow, Marvel truly has a hero for everyone,” said DCPI's Senior VP of Licensing, Paul Gitter. “From young kids to teenagers, to a casual fan or a diehard adult collector, 'Marvel Heroes Come in All Sizes' showcases that there is no singular definition for a hero and that our diversity is what makes us so powerful.”

The "Marvel Heroes Come In All Sizes" campaign includes Marvel Comics' current Monsters Unleashed series, the home video release of Marvel Studios' Doctor Strange, The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl: Squirrel Meets World prose novel, an upcoming Baby Groot picture book, a scavenger hunt game on MarvelKids.com, the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy: The Telltale Series game, and a variety of toys, action figures, and unspecified television content.

Retailers including Walmart, Target, Toys 'R' Us, Kohl's, and Amazon will reportedly take part in the promotion with in-store signage, events, and special offers.
 

Cth

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Marvel can't make up its mind..

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/1...marvel-never-lost-sight-classic-characters/3/

Possibly Hungry For Meat And Potatoes, Axel Alonso Remarks, Marvel ”Never Lost Sight Of Our Classic Characters"

Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso may no longer be doing his weekly Axel-in-Charge column at CBR, but he did stop by the Eisner award winning website for an end-of-the-year interview to look back at Marvel's 2016 and forward to 2017. Interviews with comics execs on major websites are always delicate, fluff-oriented affairs, but if you get a comic book executive comfortable enough with lots of softball questions about what they're ”super excited" about, they will sometimes reveal interesting tidbits of information. One of the things that stood out in Axel's interview was what he said about Marvel's ”classic" characters, a word which here means the white male versions of characters that have been replaced by non-white or non-male legacy characters in recent years.

We never had any decree to change everything. All of these changes came naturally from the stories and there was just something in the air. Rick Remender was writing ”Captain America" when he proposed Sam Wilson take the shield. Jason Aaron was writing a very popular ”Thor" book when he came up with the game-changing idea of making Jane Foster the new Thor and made it even more popular. When [Editor] Mark Paniccia faced a new volume of Hulk, he pitched the idea of Amadeus Cho taking over the mantle as someone who didn't view the Hulk as a curse. And when we decided to kill Wolverine, there were a lot of candidates on the table to replace him — Sabretooth, Daken, X-23 — and landed on the latter.

All of these moves happened separately and organically and we didn't want any of them to be a short-term thing. That said, while we hoped and prayed these characters would connect with fans, we never lost sight of our classic characters. We always had a plan for each of them. In 2017, a lot of those plans will be revealed. Keep your eyes peeled for teasers and clues.

Later in the interview, answering a question about the ResurrXion books, Alonso said:

You walk a line. You want to be evocative of the past without being a Xerox machine, you know? You have to move forward. But I think there's something to be said of stories and art styles that echo or reference what we loved as kids, and I think you're going to see that throughout the books.

Is Alonso hinting that Marvel could be looking toward a ”meat and potatoes" strategy in the future? ”Meat and potatoes" was the code word DC Comics used when they announced plans to drop their progressive DC You initiative and focus on their own ”classic" characters with DC Rebirth. Rebirth was a sales success for DC, at least briefly, even leading them to defeat Marvel in Diamond sales charts for a couple months, something that rarely happens. Marvel, on the other hand, has seemingly struggled with individual book sales lately, despite the protests of Tom Brevoort, with the comics industry as a whole facing potential tough times and multiple stores closing around the country. Could the publisher, with Donald Trump — a personal friend of Marvel CEO Ike Perlmutter — about to take office, be looking to a similar approach to DC's in the near future?

We don't want to speculate or read too much into this. It's too early to say anything like that is going to happen, though Alonso did recently stress at New York Comic Con that he is ”the last thing from a social justice warrior," a pejorative term often used to describe anyone who advocates openly for better representation in comics, despite the company's constant quest for recognition over providing just that.

And Marvel has received a lot mainstream media praise over the last several years for its commitment to diversity, which Marvel touts repeatedly to any mainstream media publication or TV show that will give them the time of day, though its top executives become quite defensive when challenged about their failings in that area (don't dare ask about a bi-sexual Hercules). But Marvel's boasting about its commitment to diversity has always been much louder than that commitment's actual physical manifestation in real life. After all, the most recent round of gendercrunching for October 2016 shows just 16% of Marvel's creators are women, less than DC, Image, IDW, and Dark Horse (though none of them are doing spectacularly, with the highest, DC, under 20%). For comparison's sake, roughly half of all humans are women. Marvel's racial diversity doesn't fare much better, with the company hiring its first black women writers – EVER – just this past year. Marvel's fictional universe may be more diverse than ever before, but its hiring decisions lag behind.

Still, a quick glance at the Twitter feeds of some of Marvel's top superstar writers – and seriously, we mean any time, day or night, because they're always tweeting – will show that the creative staff, at least, remains firmly committed to progressive ideals (though not quite so committed as to stop taking a paycheck from Marvel when learning that the CEO of their company, who receives profits from their work for it, donates those profits to Donald Trump – rationalization is a beautiful thing).

Ultimately, for fans of Marvel's recent creative direction and commitment, however shallow, to diversity, it's important to remember that this commitment falls firmly behind making a profit in Marvel's order of priorities, and always will. As long as those two goals coincide, Marvel will continue down that path. But if they are at odds, there will be little hesitation about which to make. If Marvel discovered that it would be more profitable than anything they're doing to produce comics starring Donald Trump as a superhero who makes the Marvel Universe great again with his giant hands and power of making deals, they would absolutely do that as a super-mega-crossover event that would change the Marvel Universe forever!!!!, and most of their creators would probably contribute to it, while simultaneously defending or excusing Marvel's actions on social media.

But we digress. We've gone and done what we said we wouldn't, and started speculating. Oops! No, it's too early to judge what Marvel will do in 2017, and there's plenty else in Axel Alonso's interview that can be read as a continued support for Marvel's recent strategies. We're probably worried about nothing. But as we all look wearily ahead at 2017, it never hurts to keep a critical eye on things, just in case.
 

Trojita

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The "Marvel Heroes Come In All Sizes" campaign includes Marvel Comics' current Monsters Unleashed series, the home video release of Marvel Studios' Doctor Strange, The Unbeatable Squirrel Girl: Squirrel Meets World prose novel, an upcoming Baby Groot picture book, a scavenger hunt game on MarvelKids.com, the upcoming Guardians of the Galaxy: The Telltale Series game, and a variety of toys, action figures, and unspecified television content.

You talk about diversity but this just seems like a merchandising scheme. Not exactly in good faith here.
 

Mesoian

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No big Bertha is a missed opportunity

Eh. Big Bertha is kind of a tough one because, at the end of the day, she's still a walking talking body dysphoria example. You could do some positive stuff with it, but you'd have to stick with the character longer than any Disney cartoon or comic would be willing to.

They can't figure out Shulkie, I don't expect them to be able to figure out Bertha.
 

Weiss

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You talk about diversity but this just seems like a merchandising scheme. Not exactly in good faith here.

If appealing to diversity has now become profitable to amoral business types after decades of pandering solely to cis, white, straight guys aged 18 - 45, isn't that a good thing regardless?
 
Any obese super heroes that will make me feel less awful about my terrible life choices? (obese dudes more specifically)

(I'll also accept villians)

edit: I just did some googling and it looks like I could totally cosplay as The Blob or Volstagg.
 

SerTapTap

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If appealing to diversity has now become profitable to amoral business types after decades of pandering solely to cis, white, straight guys aged 18 - 45, isn't that a good thing regardless?

Yeah personally I'm pretty fine with it. When doing the right thing even makes sense at a business level I'm not going to throw away a free win.
 

ZeoVGM

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That Bleeding Cool article is absolutely awful and a perfect representation of that terrible site.

the creative staff, at least, remains firmly committed to progressive ideals (though not quite so committed as to stop taking a paycheck from Marvel when learning that the CEO of their company, who receives profits from their work for it, donates those profits to Donald Trump

Seriously? Shaming people for not quitting their job because one of their numerous bosses supports Trump?

Get out of here with that nonsense.
 

Trojita

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If appealing to diversity has now become profitable to amoral business types after decades of pandering solely to cis, white, straight guys aged 18 - 45, isn't that a good thing regardless?

Is that list mentioned diversity?
 

Sesha

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Oh, that's nice. Let me know when they let Anya Corazon and characters like Dust and Surge out of Limbo.
 
Eh. Big Bertha is kind of a tough one because, at the end of the day, she's still a walking talking body dysphoria example. You could do some positive stuff with it, but you'd have to stick with the character longer than any Disney cartoon or comic would be willing to.

They can't figure out Shulkie, I don't expect them to be able to figure out Bertha.

Current Big Bertha is fine. The old one was a supermodel that turned into a massively fat superhero. Obviously problematic.

The new one is a plus sized model by default, since she preferred it. So far there isn't much difference between "normal" and "hero" modes for her.
 
Any obese super heroes that will make me feel less awful about my terrible life choices? (obese dudes more specifically)

(I'll also accept villians)

edit: I just did some googling and it looks like I could totally cosplay as The Blob or Volstagg.

Eh...if you're really big enough to go around as Blob or Volstagg, diet and moderate exercise is a better call than cosplay, real talk.
 
Eh, I'm down with this. Seems like this means that more minority characters will begin to get more promotion outside of the comics, which is always a win, in my opinion.
 

Cth

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That Bleeding Cool article is absolutely awful and a perfect representation of that terrible site.

Seriously? Shaming people for not quitting their job because one of their numerous bosses supports Trump?

Get out of here with that nonsense.

True, BC absolutely sucks and is a blight on the industry..

That being said, if you've ever been on the receiving end of one of Spencer's holier-than-thou lectures/attacks, you'd wonder why he says one thing and does another.

To be fair, BC ran that stupid article claiming Ike is worst than Jimmy Saville and saying he's a war criminal and that if he spilled the beans he'd be responsible for destroying the comic industry.

/eye roll
 
Eh...if you're really big enough to go around as Blob or Volstagg, diet and moderate exercise is a better call than cosplay, real talk.

Don't worry I'm only 5'8" and 410 pounds!

Now that you mention it maybe more walking and less pizza could do me some good.
 

Trojita

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I mean their entire existence is merchandising and consumer products...

A transparent marketing ploy is still transparent.

Their marketing push is:

Doctor Strange
Black Widow (who they won't even give a movie to)
Hulk (a man that turns into a big green thing)
Baby Groot (a hugely popular character that is about to have a huge movie)
Ant Man (Added on here because he had a successful movie and can be small and big)
Black Panther (About to have a huge movie releasing soon)
Squirrel Girl

Add onto that that Disney is a huge company that has nothing to say about what the current Administration is doing.

If a company is going to try a marketing push under the guise of goodwill, I'm going to call it out for what they are doing.

Marvel's artists, writers, and editors have made great strides in the past few years. This just seems like a soulless money grab using the word of diversity. Even the term "All sizes" was likely argued over in a board room and focus tested. Their term for diversity, "'Marvel Heroes Come in All Sizes" is being used to not seem "too political".
 

TalonJH

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Any obese super heroes that will make me feel less awful about my terrible life choices? (obese dudes more specifically)

(I'll also accept villians)

edit: I just did some googling and it looks like I could totally cosplay as The Blob or Volstagg.

Gold Ball/Fabio Medina maybe. He was a X-man but now he hangs out with Miles and Ganke. They treated him mostly as comic relief but now he's a really good "bridge" friend character for Miles when balancing superhero and normal life.

He should join the Champions.
 

Busty

Banned
Strange..my daughter and nieces love their movies and comics.

Good for them. I wonder how the female audience, that Marvel allegedly covets so much, feel about the fact that it took twenty films from the Marvel Cinematic Universe before they got round to producing a film that features a sole female protagonist?

A film that still doesn't have a director. Priorities, eh?
 

Litan

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Good for them. I wonder how the female audience, that Marvel allegedly covets so much, feel about the fact that it took twenty films from the Marvel Cinematic Universe before they got round to producing a film that features a sole female protagonist?

A film that still doesn't have a director. Priorities, eh?

Marvel deserve all the flak for taking so long to give us female and minority leads (no reason Antman/Strange couldn't have been Latino/Asian, or Black Widow didn't get her own solo), but Captain Marvel doesn't come out until early 2019. The fact that it has no director announced yet is not a problem.
 

Slayven

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Marvel deserve all the flak for taking so long to give us female and minority leads (no reason Antman/Strange couldn't have been Latino/Asian, or Black Widow didn't get her own solo), but Captain Marvel doesn't come out until early 2019. The fact that it has no director announced yet is not a problem.

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