For a lot of MCU fans, shots of their favorite superheroes standing next to each other automatically means the movie is good.
Can't lie. Count me in on that category.
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Avengers: Infinity War Day One
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Can't lie. Count me in on that category.
Already posted? https://youtu.be/sAOzrChqmd0
LOL
it's the OP.
Whoa! We haven't seen this before!
WadiumArcadium
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Seeing them all together on screen is going to be like the first Avengers all over again. Hopefully Thanos isn't a let down.
Thanos is said to be the main character of Infinity War, so there's hope.
No, Feige off-handedly mentioned that it was almost like he was the main character in Infinity War. Not that he will be the main character within the film.
Do people not read these articles anymore?
It's just a title change. It's still a two part story.
Which article are you referring to?
jimmythepage
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Needed a new avatar, got it, thanks Marvel <3
Bobby Roberts
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This is a rhetorical question, right? You know the answer to this. People don't read. Period.
I dunno, here's the article from five months ago talking about it.
So it's not two parts. They're linked, but in the same way all these movies are linked. You wouldn't really call Civil War a sequel to Ant Man, even though technically it is. That kinda thing.
But they made it pretty clear it's no longer a part one/part two sorta thing
Yes, this was what I could recall about the subject as well. I was just trying to find that article.
Thanks, Bobby.
We'll see, I guess. I don't see any way that both movies don't involve Thanos and infinity stones.
I guess you could argue all the movies are about Thanos and infinity stones, in one way or another. But what I'm saying is, I seriously doubt the next movie is Skrulls or Kang the Congueror. It's going to be more Thanos, right? No way they finish this all up in one movie.
I guess you could argue all the movies are about Thanos and infinity stones, in one way or another. But what I'm saying is, I seriously doubt the next movie is Skrulls or Kang the Congueror. It's going to be more Thanos, right? No way they finish this all up in one movie.
Bobby Roberts
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Well yeah. There's two Avengers movies. Doesn't mean they're direct sequels to each other.
Now that I think about it, have any of these Avengers movies really been direct sequels to each other? What from the first Avengers really carried into the 2nd? What from the 2nd is going to seriously carry into the third?
Avengers movies seem to be used much more like cappers/sum-ups to the "Phases" more than anything. They're general sequels to all the movies that have happened in the time between this new one and the last one. I mean - that's sorta obvious, but all the hype and speculation that is constantly churning as we jump from one movie to the next, watching as this movie feeds into that movie and spills over into the next movie, it maybe gets lost in the sauce a little. But it shouldnt' really be a surprise that Infinity War isn't really "Part One" of a two part story anymore, and not just because the creators have told us as such flat out. Age of Ultron wasn't really Part Two of the story told in Avengers, and Infinity War isn't really Part Three of that story either.
WadiumArcadium
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Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
They need one Avenger movie to culminate the past three phases. And another to kick start the next. It's a sensible decision to make that in two movies.
DoctorFling
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Sucks that Kang can't be used. Would've been the perfect character to introduce the time stone with.
Lord of Castamere
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Yeah. If Infinity Wars is the cap on the RDJ era, then they could be using 2019s Avengers as the setup for the New Avengers Era. Serving as an epilogue and prologue.
Callibretto
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I still expect Avengers 3 and 4 are more closely tied together than Avengers 1 and 2.
FaustsBoon
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The comic nerd in me, now in my late thirties feels terrible for complaining about anything at all (I mean, kid me would have never believed we would've gotten comic book movies of some of these characters, done as well as they have), but I may be forever heart-broken that we are likely never getting to see an end-film teaser introducing the raw swag of Victor Von Doom.
In some alternate universe Mads Mikkelson is the best Doctor Doom of all time.
In some alternate universe Mads Mikkelson is the best Doctor Doom of all time.
One wonders if Infinity War was originally written as two parts, but after audiences started to apparently grow weary of the two part formula in recent years (Hunger Games, Divergent), the two Avengers movies were re-written to service more standalone stories.
I agree with the bolded, but Infinity War isn't just a capper to a phase. It's the capper to the entire universe up to this point. The build up towards the Infinity War has been across every phase.
That's why it was originally announced as a two parter. It's just too much for one movie. Is infinity war now a Gettysburg style 4 hour epic with an intermission? (I'd be down for that!)
Are we really thinking this fourth movie won't be Thanos? And if it is Thanos, how is it not at its core a continuation?
That's what I'm getting at.
Absoloutely no-one is disputing that Thanos will be the antagonist of both films, though. We know for a fact this will be the case.
However, that doesn't necessarily stop both Avengers films being self-contained stories which happen to utilize the same antagonist, as indeed Feige seems to have suggested in previous interviews. Much like how X-Men 1 and 2 utilized Magneto as their primary antagonist, whilst at the same time, both films still managed to serve as individual, self-contained films within the same franchise.
FaustsBoon
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If it makes you feel better, my old sources who gave me the Mads casting, and Dormmamu in Doc Strange news way back when... said Marvel's intention in casting Mads has always been for him to recur as a human-host/incarnation of Dormammu in further movies.
Bobby Roberts
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At their core, they're all continuations of each other, though.
It doesn't really matter if they're direct sequels to each other, honestly. Even the directly numbered sequels in this series aren't all that tightly tied to the preceding movie.
For a series that has so solidly rewritten the industry rules as to how you can treat inter-film continuity (again: maybe the single worst aspect they could have adapted from the publishing side, but hey), their own approach to the notion of "sequels" is pretty loose.
Which is why this particular nit to pick seems extra time-wastey. They're not "Part One & Part Two" anymore. They're two separate movies who are linked in much the same way all the films are linked (except for maybe Guardians).
The notion of "direct sequel" from the first to the second to the third was traded in a looooong time ago for the notion of everything being a loose sequel to everything else
That's essentially the core of the "genius" accolades showered on the studio. We've known this for awhile now.
Hey nowwwww
I think it will absolutely be a to be continued situation. I'm betting the first film ends with Thanos collecting the last stone.
FaustsBoon
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Yeah... I've been out of the industry for long enough that most of my entertainment sources have long dried up, but I have life-long family friends are Marvel who still give me good dish, and get me into some fun screenings. ;-)
There are two other movies coming out between Infinity War and the next Avengers, though. I can't see there being a to be continued/cliffhanger ending to Infinity War when the next movie out is Ant-Man and the Wasp.
BKatastrophe
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So no Black Order? Proxima Midnight vs. Luke Cage?
I guess I can deal with it
I guess I can deal with it
Of course that won't be in this but thid movie's gonna be so sick I can't wait. Best day ever best day ever best day ever
blame space
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was the collector just that one-off thing? i loved del Toro in the role.
He's in Infinity War.
After defeat in the Infinity War, Thanos went home and became a family man.
Loki's scepter is a pretty important part of the plot in a couple ways.
I would die on the spot
Obliterator
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Do we have any idea on film length yet? I honestly want this to be 3 hours.
Also I think Thanos will still be a factor in Avengers 4. I realize they aren't Part 1 and Part 2 anymore, but it would seem kinda a waste to have all this build up and have him defeated in just 1 film. I think there's another wrinkle as well in Avengers 4 and that's why they changed it to just being Part 1 and 2, but I'm betting Thanos is still a major factor in the 4th film.
Also I think Thanos will still be a factor in Avengers 4. I realize they aren't Part 1 and Part 2 anymore, but it would seem kinda a waste to have all this build up and have him defeated in just 1 film. I think there's another wrinkle as well in Avengers 4 and that's why they changed it to just being Part 1 and 2, but I'm betting Thanos is still a major factor in the 4th film.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah but is that really enough to be like "It's obviously a direct sequel?"
I don't think it is. Not that it really matters anyway, because the big selling point of this entire universe (and of Cinematic Universes in general) is that they're all sequels to each other in some way. That's the large majority of the reasoning behind Marvel's being championed as long and as hard as it has. Which is why this particular aspect being hashed out feels so weird to me. Like, we've been talking about this exact thing for like, a decade now. Why is the notion that the next two Avengers movies aren't directly linked to one another a hard one to swallow, especially after its creators themselves have said so?
It's not weird or strange, it's perfectly in line with everything they've done up to this point, for which we've cheered them on almost* every step of the way.
Except the guys filming them back to back have said that's not what's up though.
*Thor 2
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