ajanke
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Oh hell yea can't wait to get home and install this.
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Horizon Zero Dawn, PS4 Pro Patch is out 1.02
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Oh hell yea can't wait to get home and install this.
I guess they want to have the mode just in case.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'm glad 1080p TV owners see benefits from Downsampling. I'm still salty the Pro doesn't have any kind of support for 1440p monitors since I do most of my gaming on my monitor nowadays
Melchiah
Member
Hell yes! I wonder why it wasn't included originally, since it was mentioned in the PS blog.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Cool.
Baroquemantic
Member
Someone should tweet some guerrilla peeps and ask what exactly 1080p mode does besides a locked 30fps.
I'm pretty sure it already had downsampling before this patch.
It did by default on the Pro, now they've added the option not to for a locked 30fps.
xion4360
Member
well at least its there if you want the option.
A 30fps mode versus a locked 30fps mode at 1080p.
Its boost mode without boost mode O_O
From what I can see thus far that's precisely what it does - it solves all of the slowdown issues.
However, those issues are very rare to begin with soooo...not THAT useful but still nice to have.
Can you switch between the modes in real time like in Tomb Raider?
So if I understand correctly:
Standard mode = 2160p checkerboard targeting 30fps, and downsampled if at 1080p. Very slight frame drops.
Performance mode = Native 1080p at 30fps. No frame drops.
But I thought checkerboard rendering had minimal impact on frame rates since it's still rendering the same number of pixels?
Standard mode = 2160p checkerboard targeting 30fps, and downsampled if at 1080p. Very slight frame drops.
Performance mode = Native 1080p at 30fps. No frame drops.
But I thought checkerboard rendering had minimal impact on frame rates since it's still rendering the same number of pixels?
family_guy
Member
But didn't Digital Foundry already say that was there?
xion4360
Member
It was the default..now its an option.
Melchiah
Member
Ah, there's two supersampled modes. Locked 30fps it is for me then.
I think this is a testament how diligent GG was lol.
But are these enhancements already in the disc without the new patch, and are they PRO exclusive? I thought thath the PRO version had more effects than the regular PS4 version...
Sword Of Doom
Member
From what I understand checkerboard "scales" from a higher resolution than 1080p
its still going to cause some slowdown at that res though. introducing an official boost mode solves that
No, the Performance Mode is not downsampled. 1080p native. It adds more effects but we don't know what they are.
Equanimity
Member
Does the performance mode render above 1080p?
Pro support was there from the initial release but the day 1 patch adds that performance mode.
Haven't done a pixel count yet - just looking at the game live. It looks like 1080p to my eyes but I still haven't actually confirmed that.
Nope, the perfomance mode doesn't supersample.
xion4360
Member
The only enhancement on the pro besides resolution is AF
Equanimity
Member
xion4360
Member
what would be supersampled out of a native 1080P image?
Those issues are there to make the viewers of your framerate vids know that the framerate graph is working.
Baroquemantic
Member
As I don't have a 4k TV, I'd just stick with resolution mode for the downsampling. I'm not bothered by framedrops, and the ones in this game are very minor.
Supersampling is listed only for the "resolution mode".
http://i.imgur.com/0zurYL9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rkrFeUu.jpg
Equanimity
Member
Supersampled from 1440p to 1800p on a 1080p display. I'm not talking about supersampling/downsampling from a native 1080p res.
Good catch. Thanks for sharing.
I'm looking forward to an analysis of the performance mode.
Karak
Member
Did you beat it?
I ask because there were 2 specific cauldrons and 1 specific endgame spot where it wasn't dropping to 29 it was lower. Heavy alpha, heavy particles, 3 giant enemies, and dense foliage in one spot . An insane place so it wasn't unexpected.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
What resolution is rendered on the pro before 4K checkerboard is applied?
I know it's 1080p native on PS4 but does it render say 1800p before 4K checkerboard on pro for example?
I know it's 1080p native on PS4 but does it render say 1800p before 4K checkerboard on pro for example?
I would call going from a locked 30 fps at all times, to locked 30fps at pretty much all times with rare drops a minimal impact. Also the checkerboarding in this has a higher rendering resolution than 1080p before the process is applied.
There's no "native resolution before checkerboarding".
It doesn't work like that.
Thanks for this. If it never dips below 30 I'll likely stick with the supersampling.
Checkerboarding is rendering half the resolution of the final framebuffer in a checkerboard pattern and then "guess" the other half of pixels to built a full (in this case 2160p) frame buffer.
Thus the amount of pixels being rendered natively in Horizon is 3840*2160/2
No, thats exactly how it works.
Gunslinger
Member
So performance mode is a complete waste? When 4k mode keeps up with 30fps almost 99℅ of the time? If it's true then lol what was guerrilla games thinking
Options it seems.
Always-honest
Banned
Oh i can't wait to play this on my Projector.
xion4360
Member
if it completely locks the framerate and offers some enhanced effects (just because people arent noticing them yet doesnt mean there are none) then its not a waste.
As the performance profile suggest, the game does drop in certain parts. In performance mode it does not drop. fairly simple. If they have the overhead to do that with dropping the res, what's the point of not adding in the option?
Persona RS
Member
Yes.