Thats a great deal western video games. And I'm not talking about how Nathan Drake is secretly a mass murderer. I'm talking about stuff like GTA, Hitman, God of War, etc.
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NieR: Automata review thread
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Thats a great deal western video games. And I'm not talking about how Nathan Drake is secretly a mass murderer. I'm talking about stuff like GTA, Hitman, God of War, etc.
It's to a MUCH higher level then any of that.
Incest, pedophilia, and cannibalism is all extreamly present in the Drakengard 1 party, and there is no attempt at all to paint them as tragic or sympathetic in anyway
He likes turning things on their heads. His first concept of the game that gave him infamy was the viewpoint that characters kill plenty of people and creatures in games, yet somehow have narrative dissonance in which they do not actually suffer any mental drawbacks or plot related karma due to being what is essentially a full on murderer.
This is expanded on as well with his viewpoint hat after 9/11, people don't have to have evil or good motives to do terrible things, they only need their own views and self justifications.
Somewhat similar to Toby Fox's issue with gaming not exploring the consequence of killing in games as a moral karmatic justice.
Basically Taro deconstructs gaming and JRPG tropes for just to see what will happen.
The main character also slaughters children, too.
In Drakengard 3, the main character steals men from her sisters to create a male harem which she has sex with every night, which is something I've never seen before in a game.
KO Traveling Hobo
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Drakengard: where the pedophile is the only decent human being in the game.
Let's not forget about Arioch and Leonard...although i would argue the game DOES attempt to present both of them as sympathetic characters, Arioch due to the death of her family turning her super insane and Leonard for...being Leonard.
Euphoria14
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All these games coming out and honestly I couldn't care less about them.
This is the only game I am looking forward to. I loved Nier so much.
This is the only game I am looking forward to. I loved Nier so much.
I'm not. CC was OK, 3rd Birthday was bad to the point of being embarrassing, and Type-0 wasn't much better than that.
He's a bad director, but I definitely don't think that started with XV.
It's very interesting to read up on this game, because from an outsider perspective it looks so odd. Characters that look like weird dolls with thick butts running around industrial landscapes, with Platinum style combat, platforming and shmups sections - makes me really curious.
I just hope that the gameplay style switching isn't too disjointed, because I absolutely hated the railshooter segment in Bayonetta, and generally don't like games that switch mechanics like that too much.
But Platinum combat + RPG + Akihiko Yoshida + industrial setting alone makes me highly interested. I can't wait to find out what the story is like, because I have zero idea what it could be about.
It's been a long time since I played a properly weird and unusual japanese game. I already love the surreal look.
I just hope that the gameplay style switching isn't too disjointed, because I absolutely hated the railshooter segment in Bayonetta, and generally don't like games that switch mechanics like that too much.
But Platinum combat + RPG + Akihiko Yoshida + industrial setting alone makes me highly interested. I can't wait to find out what the story is like, because I have zero idea what it could be about.
It's been a long time since I played a properly weird and unusual japanese game. I already love the surreal look.
You're in for a ride then.
Well, no one knows what the fuck Nier is but everyone, including my parents, know what a Zelda is.
Nier's not gonna keep that 94.
ethomaz
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Well the last review was a 9.2/10.
Even if it fall I think it will be 90+.
It's only had 6 reviews, it's not staying that high
Jawbreaker
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I honestly won't be surprised if it's a 90+ rated game.
Same, but I'll be realistic and say mid 80s is how it'll end.
ArkhamFantasy
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Even if it drops 10 points that would still be great.
plasmawave
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It's gonna go up to 95 and gives everyone at SE and PG a heart attack.
Neoleo2143
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I'm going to say high 80s, there's a lot that this game does very well but some bugs are going to piss off folks which will hurt the game I feel. But damn, why are there so many incredible experiences this year. BoTW might be the greatest action adventure game ever made, the Nier sequel is everything I've dreamed it would be, Horizon is my spiritual successor to Binary Domain's combat, RE7 brought back legit Survival horror etc. 2017 is truly the year of gaming dreams for me.
ASilentProtagonist
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It will probably be a 90+ experience, but it's hard to score that universally with critics nowadays.
I think Persona 5 will be the first game other than Zelda to score a 90 metascore. Zelda went from 0-100 with that 98 metascore, lol.
ArkhamFantasy
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Shit, they're probably still celebrating from its week 1 sales in Japan. It outsold Resident freaking Evil.
theofficefan99
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So so happy for Yoko Taro. Deserves an even bigger budget for his next title.
Yeah, I'm playing it at the moment and liking it way more than I expected. Really good game.
BRSxIgnition
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I'm feeling around 90~.
As long as its within 5 of that number, I'll feel like it's gotten what the game deserves. (Though I haven't even finished Route C yet.)
As long as its within 5 of that number, I'll feel like it's gotten what the game deserves. (Though I haven't even finished Route C yet.)
Sangetsu-II
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88 is my bet, along the lines with Horizon and Nioh.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
For some reason despite flawed, I enjoyed both Type-0 and XV, moreso with XV.
Like I said, not every game is perfect. XV has flaws but I really enjoyed it and I'm wanting more which rarely happens to me. I'm sure there are a lot of people who still want more from XV.
DarkLordMalik
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Why every thread has to turn into FFXV thread? sigh
I am confident this one is getting high scores. I am adjust my meta predictions to 85-90.
I am confident this one is getting high scores. I am adjust my meta predictions to 85-90.
Son Of Sparda
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I have this pre-ordered so I really don't care what will be its average score.
That said, come on guys. There is no way this is keeping a 90+ score. It's too unique of an experience which can't/won't satisfy everyone. Not to mention, even if it's running at 60fps on all platforms, the game is still not a looker (by your average reviewer's standards) and that will be a factor as well. So we'll probably see a good amount of 70-75 scores.
My guess is that at best, it will settle somewhere around mid to low 80s.
That said, come on guys. There is no way this is keeping a 90+ score. It's too unique of an experience which can't/won't satisfy everyone. Not to mention, even if it's running at 60fps on all platforms, the game is still not a looker (by your average reviewer's standards) and that will be a factor as well. So we'll probably see a good amount of 70-75 scores.
My guess is that at best, it will settle somewhere around mid to low 80s.
BRSxIgnition
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Nearly at the end, will probably beat it tomorrow.
My best - hopeful - guess is 90 (+/- 5), (85-95)
My best - hopeful - guess is 90 (+/- 5), (85-95)
Mass effect?
piccio_ssl
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I've finished it yesterday
This game totally deserve a +90 score
One of the greatest game in history as far as i'm concerned
This game totally deserve a +90 score
One of the greatest game in history as far as i'm concerned
Lord of Castamere
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All three Mass Effects had 90%+ on 360 and DAI just missed that mark(89%) on PS4, so it's definitely possible.
That would be a great success. 70 to 75 scores were actually rarer for Nier because it got way more 60s or below
Son Of Sparda
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Oh yeah, I'm fully aware of that. And honestly not just Nier, but anything above 75-76 should be considered a good title these days.
killatopak
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I still want it to be 90+
A man can dream.
A man can dream.
Hesemonni
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It'll always be 94 to me.
GrayChild
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Massive Duck. C.M.
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Realistically I think it will land somewhere between 75-85, but it is nice to see these 90+ scores.
Lol nah, those are not comparable to Yoko characters
Lol nah, those are not comparable to Yoko characters
Exentryk
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The game really seems to be connecting with the importers/fans. Plus lots of positive GAF reviews as well.
rochellepaws
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Is there any actual reason why people think this will suddenly start picking up 7's and 8's other than an expectation of ignorance/incompetency from reviewers? There are plenty of examples of obscure Japanese games reviewing poorly with western media yet being received well among fans which go on for their sequels to review much better as they begin to permeate into the mainstream.
This is not an obscure, ultra niche game any more and the demo was received very well.It was even one of the top 10 most anticipated games on gaf for this year and games media have been speaking about it for months along with Nioh as a possible surprise hit for 2017. It's difficult to believe that someone who reviews games for a living won't approach this with an appreciation for Yoko Taro's unique creativity and dark storytelling while Platinum games are already very well renowned and respected.
I think it could hold on 90.
This is not an obscure, ultra niche game any more and the demo was received very well.It was even one of the top 10 most anticipated games on gaf for this year and games media have been speaking about it for months along with Nioh as a possible surprise hit for 2017. It's difficult to believe that someone who reviews games for a living won't approach this with an appreciation for Yoko Taro's unique creativity and dark storytelling while Platinum games are already very well renowned and respected.
I think it could hold on 90.
Imp the Dimp
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What exactly happens then
Johannsson
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Looking forward to it.
Audioboxer
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It ain't happening, so no point in even speculating
If Horizon can't break the 90 metacritic, Nier certainly isn't. There will be at least a handful of reviewers that do not like Taro's style. In today's climate even honesty around subjects such as sex/violence/graphic content only gets you a shade of respect, for at least not lying. That doesn't mean that respect translates into objective thinking of your product, some will still have adult content be the negative theme of their review, regardless of gameplay/story. Which is fine, I'm just saying expect a low-ball or two for the kinds of stuff that always procures a bit of "discussion" around a Taro game.
I think low 80s would be a massive success, considering Nier currently sits at 66%. Of course even with Platinum involved I still expect some technical jank, which again can deduct points (fairly).
Massive Duck. C.M.
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There will be a few low blows from contrarians but it will also rightfully get some points off for some technical and visual issues.
Because a lot of review could criticize it for lack of polish and the mix-mash of genre by Yoko Taro is not everyone's cup of a tea. Even IGN Japan bashed the game in that regards.
1.21Gigawatts
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It ain't happening, so no point in even speculating
If Horizon can't break the 90 metacritic, Nier certainly isn't. There will be at least a handful of reviewers that do not like Taro's style.
You can't compare reviews like that.
Expectations and standards for Horizon are very different from the expectations and the standards Nier will be measured by.
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