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GI.Biz: Indies on Nintendo: We've been treated like royalty
- Thread starter Tripon
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Looks like they're philosophy currently is to have fewer devs and support them really well. If they gave out a ton of devkits, support would have bee stretched thin. Sucks for those who didn't get selected, but it ensures a consistent high quality library on the e shop.
Agree.
Bioshocker
Member
Well, they'll need them.
I guess Damon Baker got the message regarding Cosmic Star Heroine from all the replies to his latest tweet about that specific game.
psychowave
Member
Dunno much about Zeboyd Games, but why is Nintendo's support of indies being shat on because they failed to support this one developer? Or has it happened to other devs as well?
To be fair, hopefully this is just a temporary measure and they just want to spread releases a little better and give a bigger spotlight to devs who worked with them in the past (loyalty is important too).
That being said, it's so frustrating to see big companies like this still giving canned responses. Giving the same negative response, but in a more personal, considerate way goes a long way to build good relations with your consumers and partners.
I guess Damon Baker got the message regarding Cosmic Star Heroine from all the replies to his latest tweet about that specific game.
Let's hope so! I indeed thought about suggesting people with twitter to start perstering him, haha.
I'm tempted to counter this by saying that wide releases of indie games tend to be shelf warmers at most retailers, but given the pitiful amount of releases filling Switch shelves for the forseeable future, maybe that's exactly what they need. Having the appearance of a broad library that fills out some decent real estate at retail is an important prognosticator for the future health of your system, and at the rate we're going with third-party support, Switch games ain't gonna come close to filling up a sizable chunk of a case at retailers by the holidays unless they're double and triple-facing games.
Eh, I like their games and I wish Zeboyd, as with any passionate indie developer, all the luck in the world... But Zeboyd's assets and artwork are distinctly on the amateurish side, even by indie standards.
Alcotholic
Banned
If they cant get third parties on the system, reach a different market. They certainly are playing the best hand they can. I'm excited to see what local coop experiences they can get. Snipperclips was amazing.
Maybe their previous efforts, but they stepped up their game big time with Cosmic Star Heroine.
It's a big jump from their previous games, no doubt, buuuut I'm afraid the comment stands.
Good on ya Nintendo. I think I'm gonna double dip on some of the indies I haven't finished. I'd love to have a lot of the Indies I have on the go.
The curation that's going on is probably looking to see if the game has sold well.
The curation that's going on is probably looking to see if the game has sold well.
they post on gaf, manners etc.
Probably the equivalent of port begging. Lots of indies aren't slated for a switch release. I'm not gonna claim Toby Fox is getting ignored by Nintendo cuz Undertale isn't coming to the Switch.
But then real trash like Vroom in the Night Sky makes it over? I am not quite sure what their curation standards are.
Vanillalite
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Baker talks about their philosophy on the latest IGN NVC.
Seems they want fewer higher quality titles. Felt they kinda got burned on the Wii U with some cheap terrible shovelware. Also wants to try and get games coming out on the PC, PS4, and Bone at the same time on the Switch vs 6 months after the usual platforms.
Plus if you are a port Nintendo hopes you at least try and leverage the system's strengths in some sort of way like for local MP or HD rumble.
Worth a watch/listen for people who haven't.
IGN NVC Indies Podcast
Seems they want fewer higher quality titles. Felt they kinda got burned on the Wii U with some cheap terrible shovelware. Also wants to try and get games coming out on the PC, PS4, and Bone at the same time on the Switch vs 6 months after the usual platforms.
Plus if you are a port Nintendo hopes you at least try and leverage the system's strengths in some sort of way like for local MP or HD rumble.
Worth a watch/listen for people who haven't.
IGN NVC Indies Podcast
If that happens I fear for my PlayStation 4's mental well being.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Well let's get going then! Where's Gungeon? You don't have to open the floodgates, but can you crack them open just a little?
DaSorcerer7
Member
That was confirmed in the nindies direct I think
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Nintendo is meeting indie studios at EGX Rezzed at the end of this month as part of the indie effort
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/275609-nintendo-to-be-a-part-of-egx-rezzed-s-meet-the-indies-event
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/275609-nintendo-to-be-a-part-of-egx-rezzed-s-meet-the-indies-event
That is the point too.
Asking for big seller on steam/ps4 is coming after the battle.
But then real trash like Vroom in the Night Sky makes it over? I am not quite sure what their curation standards are.
That's a japanese game (Poisoft) and they also had games on 3DS.
I doubt Baker and the likes had any input in this case.
I think CSH slipping through the cracks is easily explained simply because Zeboyd is a small outfit even by indie standards and Nintendo has no pre-existing relationship with them.
It's still a shame but I don't think it's anything malicious or arrogant as some people have been putting it.
It's still a shame but I don't think it's anything malicious or arrogant as some people have been putting it.
Independent games are becoming a huge source of value for console makers. The amount of independent games vs AAA games is just too great to ignore. You can have a couple of AAA games a year on your console, but it's those independent sources that keep the console fresh and alive throughout all the year.
Offering great deals to those developers with great support and contracts is what any console maker must do right now.
IMO Nintendo is doing great in that aspect (as we saw in the Nindies "direct" with even some exclusives).
Offering great deals to those developers with great support and contracts is what any console maker must do right now.
IMO Nintendo is doing great in that aspect (as we saw in the Nindies "direct" with even some exclusives).
The Hermit
Member
Only words until Nintendo tackles the big ones like Rocket League and The Witness.
Niddohg WILL be big if launched on the Switch, you can write that down.
Niddohg WILL be big if launched on the Switch, you can write that down.
not like Stardew Valley is any little...
I've thought for a while that this is an avenue that Nintendo ought to explore more; their offering fundamentally isn't positioned to offer high-profile AAA third-parties what they want, but they're ideally situated to court smaller developers and indies, if they handle it with care. I did notice in the Nindies showcase last week that they had a surprising number of indie games with timed - or in some cases, full - console exclusivity, which hasn't really been a thing for indies in the past.
Whether it works is certainly up for question - there's a proportion of the traditional gaming audience who wouldn't consider such titles who they're effectively sidelining by doing this - but I think it's something absolutely worth experimenting with.
Whether it works is certainly up for question - there's a proportion of the traditional gaming audience who wouldn't consider such titles who they're effectively sidelining by doing this - but I think it's something absolutely worth experimenting with.
Awesome. Hopefully we get some more announcements soon.
Golden_Pigeon
Banned
We want Darkest Dungeon.
entremet
Member
Adelmann did amazing considering how hamstrung he was by NCL's dumb policies.
Adelmann set the stage for his successors.
Omnistalgic
Member
Playstation did this in the beginning too, seems to have toned down a bit though...
maybe good for the launch of your system and then ROI starts to dry up when the market is flooded with so many games.
I think Sony should really make PSP2, that's b/c with Vita/PSP of course, seems like the handheld market really is here to stay.
maybe good for the launch of your system and then ROI starts to dry up when the market is flooded with so many games.
I think Sony should really make PSP2, that's b/c with Vita/PSP of course, seems like the handheld market really is here to stay.
Switch should get all the multiplayer indies to really sell the joycon local multiplayer (better than 1,2 Switch).
Gang Beasts
Mount your Friends
Overcooked - it's coming
Ultimate Chicken Horse - it's coming
Don't leave those indies behind.
Why no Kororinpa HD Rumble announcement yet??? Do it already!
I'm personally hella keen on cool singleplayer indies coming like Thumper as well. I'd rather play that on the switch in handheld mode than on my PC. I've been tempted to buy an Nvidia Shield tablet with some bluetooth controllers with a space for the tablet so I can chill in bed and play but I'm worried about input lag.
Gang Beasts
Mount your Friends
Overcooked - it's coming
Ultimate Chicken Horse - it's coming
Don't leave those indies behind.
Why no Kororinpa HD Rumble announcement yet??? Do it already!
I'm personally hella keen on cool singleplayer indies coming like Thumper as well. I'd rather play that on the switch in handheld mode than on my PC. I've been tempted to buy an Nvidia Shield tablet with some bluetooth controllers with a space for the tablet so I can chill in bed and play but I'm worried about input lag.
Uh, what? How did you get to that conclusion?
LordRaptor
Member
I made a topic about the other side of the coin where their initial stated plans were for a heavily curated experience, which was seemingly to only go for titles that already have a publisher, when the ideal scenario is to allow self-published titles.
This new article is much more reassuring in that regard.
Calm Mind
Member
Agreed. Not to downplay others enjoyment of it but for all the praise it gets around here, it really doesn't look the part. Is there a demo?
sixteen-bit
Member
I wish they called 'em "Tendies"
talkingood
Member
Serious indie games like ...Rocket League? I feel like Rocket League would really, really resonate with Nintendo fans. I love Nintendo games, but Rocket League is one of my favourite games of the past few years. I would love a Switch version.
The Witness seems like a good fit too. I think a lot of us like puzzle solving.
Calm Mind
Member
Let them know on social media. I'm sure they would happy to know others want their games.