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-=-=->S P O I L E R S<-=-=- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Spoiler Thread

It's incredibly silly that she had it and didn't obliterate Calamity Ganon with zero issue.

A major plot hole tbh. Also what was that implication when the camera zoomed in on Zelda face and paused there for a few moments...?

Was she meant to be the hero who held the sword, and not Link? Is that why she could hear Fi?

And SHE HAD THE TRIFORCE THE ENTIRE TIME. She could have wished Ganon away from the very start. It makes zero sense.
 
Given how disappointing I found the ending, and how common of a complaint it is, I'm surprised none of the reviews that I've read mentioned this. Gives the impression that reviewers don't bother finishing games anymore, unless they're short or their schedules allow it. It's Metal Gear Solid 5 all over again.
 
Given how disappointing I found the ending, and how common of a complaint it is, I'm surprised none of the reviews that I've read mentioned this. Gives the impression that reviewers don't bother finishing games anymore, unless they're short or their schedules allow it. It's Metal Gear Solid 5 all over again.

This is precisely what I was thinking.
 
Metal Gear Solid V's ending is unfinished and terrible. Breath of the Wild's ending is a little disappointing with some lore bits that don't quite fit. They're not at all on the same scale.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Love this Midna reference...
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In the previous page it says that she tried to speak to Zelda but didn't hear any words (which is probably due to the broken Mirror).
Bring back Midna pls Nintendo.

Considering we know Zelda started communicating with Fi after this incident, and Fi looks like the Fairy Queen from Wind Waker and is the Goddess Sword and Fi's preferred method of breaking the ice is to appear in dreams in a world consumed by darkness I'd say a safe bet is that Zelda was dreaming about Fi, not Midna.

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Astral Dog

Member
A major plot hole tbh. Also what was that implication when the camera zoomed in on Zelda face and paused there for a few moments...?

Was she meant to be the hero who held the sword, and not Link? Is that why she could hear Fi?

And SHE HAD THE TRIFORCE THE ENTIRE TIME. She could have wished Ganon away from the very start. It makes zero sense.
maybe she didn't know she had it? maybe not even the triforce can wish away Demise? after all the guy was still revived despite Link wishing for him to be destroyed ( i know they traveled back in time but that's just dumb)
 

iFirez

Member
Did you get the secret ending? It pretty much alludes to what (I believe) the story DLC will be. The beasts start malfunctioning, etc.
I did yeah, I'm just not sure they're going to go that route as the DLC will take place after the story and that's a big assumption to make that everyone has gotten that far... even after 10 months or so. I'd like to explore Hyrule Post-Calamity though, so all the Guardian's are gone...etc but I suppose that takes the threat out of the world.

Holy shit, It's the ruins of the Lon Lon Ranch! It has to be. I mean it's missing the giant wall around it but the layout for the buildings in ruin and the track and fence are exactly the same as OOT.

I went searching:
C6gU4o7U8AATFzt.jpg:large

Well shit... that is 100% Lon Lon Ranch in its exact OoT layout... but destroyed.
 
Considering we know Zelda started communicating with Fi after this incident, and Fi looks like the Fairy Queen from Wind Waker and is the Goddess Sword and Fi's preferred method of breaking the ice is to appear in dreams in a world consumed by darkness I'd say a safe bet is that Zelda was dreaming about Fi, not Midna.

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I never finished Skyward Sword so I was unaware about that dream detail.
That said, why would her voice be muffled in the dream? That, and the "not of this world" part is what made me think of Midna.
Also, in one of the memories, the game actually shows the separate occasion when Zelda communicated with Fi/the Sword so that also made me think it wasn't about Fi.

Lastly, Fi is ugly, not beautiful. :p

But seriously, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part that it was about Midna. I just finished Twilight Princess for the first time a few weeks ago and I really liked her character. Disappointing that most Zelda fans don't feel the same way.
 
you're not really gonna get a backlash in a strict sense.
Yeah, I mean I found the plot rather ho-hum (though I liked the memory nabbing) and the ending one of the weakest in the series but story has never been that big a thing for the series, even the better ones main plot is often by the numbers, it's more about what happens around the plot (Majora's Mask being king of this).

MGSV all over again someone said? well MGS is a series that absolutely delves in plot, (to its ridiculous detriment in 4 in my opinion) it's not really comparable at all to Zelda.

But seriously, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part that it was about Midna. I just finished Twilight Princess for the first time a few weeks ago and I really liked her character. Disappointing that most Zelda fans don't feel the same way.

She's one of the most popular characters in the series surely?
 

13ruce

Banned
But seriously, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part that it was about Midna. I just finished Twilight Princess for the first time a few weeks ago and I really liked her character. Disappointing that most Zelda fans don't feel the same way.

Hey don't worry there are enough people that like her:p i myself have a tattoo of her Imp Form even that looks more beautiful then Fi:p
Also there is tons of fanart about midna and people generally like her.

Anyway i am glad the game atleast mentions Twilight Princess in the first Zelda memory (Sword steeped in Embers of Twilight Zelda says) also lake hylia bridge is there.

But what i am thinking is why did Fi reach out to Zelda and not Link? I guess because well Zelda is technically Hylia... So her creator if i am right.
 
I did yeah, I'm just not sure they're going to go that route as the DLC will take place after the story and that's a big assumption to make that everyone has gotten that far... even after 10 months or so. I'd like to explore Hyrule Post-Calamity though, so all the Guardian's are gone...etc but I suppose that takes the threat out of the world.



I went searching:
C6gU4o7U8AATFzt.jpg:large

Well shit... that is 100% Lon Lon Ranch in its exact OoT layout... but destroyed.

The location of the ranch, the temple of time and korok forest kinda fits an upside down oot map
 
A major plot hole tbh. Also what was that implication when the camera zoomed in on Zelda face and paused there for a few moments...?

Was she meant to be the hero who held the sword, and not Link? Is that why she could hear Fi?

And SHE HAD THE TRIFORCE THE ENTIRE TIME. She could have wished Ganon away from the very start. It makes zero sense.
The reason that she didn't just wished Ganon away is because she and all of Hyrule don't have any idea what the Triforce is. Thats the way it seemed to me. Its been so incredibly long that now since the last games that its just passed down the family without them knowing it or knowing its power. Note how Zelda called it her "sealing power" and never "Triforce".

Anywayz: I hope its officially confirmed which timeline its in soon. It seems pretty obvious its in the Child Timleine due to "Embers of Twilight" (Although people earlier were saying that this can't be a TP reference or just an easter egg? lol wut.) the broken mirror of Twilight (tho it was completely shattered at the end of TP.) Ganon only reincarnating in the CT when its referenced at the end of BOTW "he gave up reincarnating" since the other timelines its all the same Ganondorf but in FSA its a "reincarnation". Plus the Rito were added in TP HD stone tablets so it seems obvious that its in the CT IMO. The whole "Ruto was a Sage" is the only thing against this and that could be explained away by saying that eventually the Link adrift in time told the story and eventually became Legend? I dunno. But thats only one thing against the CT when theres so many against the DT.

I also believe the DLC will be after BOTW. 100 years ago might work but 10,000 years ao wouldn't since the landscape would be so different. The divine beasts also stopped working since the Champions spirits moved on so DLC would be getting new ones. I really hope it stars Zelda and you can explore the entire world with her and not just the new story.

Overall in terms of story, yeah it was weak. Only the Zora ark was good. The Rito ark was over in 5 minutes, but atleast had that sister music sidequest.. Gorons and Gerudo were alright but not that good. Each story was too similar to the others.

Also glad to "see" Fi again. She was one of my favorite characters so glad to have her briefly return.

I loved the voice acting. All of it!

My favorite characters were: Zelda, Fi, Mipha, Purah, Sidon, Rito sisters, Daruk, Kass, Great Deku Tree, Rhoam, that guy who knelt with me, the first couple I saved in the forest, that metal box, and finaly spicy peppers.

My worst characters were: Pinkster the horse, all other horses that suck so I kill them, that deer which wouldn't go off the fucking mountain, and fire burning me in Death Mountain.

Seriously lots of great characters but the story doesn't hold up all that well in the end. I hope the next game has a better story, is also open world, and goes full on with the Scifi stuff since I love it.

No matter what if the next Zelda game is open world, which it better be, it needs to be in a completely different location since more of the same would be boring.
 
She's one of the most popular characters in the series surely?
Maybe I was mistaken. I could have sworn I read an interview recently where Aonuma stated something to that effect but I can't find it at the moment.
Hey don't worry there are enough people that like her:p i myself have a tattoo of her Imp Form even that looks more beautiful then Fi:p
Also there is tons of fanart about midna and people generally like her.

Anyway i am glad the game atleast mentions Twilight Princess in the first Zelda memory (Sword steeped in Embers of Twilight Zelda says) also lake hylia bridge is there.

But what i am thinking is why did Fi reach out to Zelda and not Link? I guess because well Zelda is technically Hylia... So her creator if i am right.
There's also a Bridge of Eldin, but it's much, MUCH smaller lol
 
Metal Gear Solid V's ending is unfinished and terrible. Breath of the Wild's ending is a little disappointing with some lore bits that don't quite fit. They're not at all on the same scale.

MGSV all over again someone said? well MGS is a series that absolutely delves in plot, (to its ridiculous detriment in 4 in my opinion) it's not really comparable at all to Zelda.


...Except I wasn't comparing their endings to each other. I was comparing their reviews. MGS5 was getting perfect scores everywhere despite it's ending. Same with this game.

Sure, this doesn't even come close to the level of MGS5 in terms of disappointment, but from what I've seen and read of this game for myself on top of many who have experienced it for themselves, it's lackluster plot and ending is certainly something you would think would be mentioned in a single review....And it's a complaint that seems common enough for me to know it's not just me.

I'm someone who was swayed at the last minute to buy MGS5 because of the reviews, all of which either proclaimed it to be the greatest masterpiece in the series or a perfect game in general. Once the game had been out for a little while, it gave me the impression that none of them bothered finishing the game before publishing them.

Sure, this game isn't NEARLY as bad - hell, for many I assume that it could be satisfying enough (unlike MGS5's objective fumble), but it seems to be a common enough complaint that is for some reason, not in a single review I've read. (I'd love to be linked to reviews that proves me wrong, of course)
 
Oops, guess I misinterpreted some things there.

Well I think that comes to a difference in expectations, personally I wouldn't really think to factor in an ending as a particularly pivotal point in a game review unless the story focus was the main part of the package like a visual novel.
Of course a good ending always helps (even a game with barebones plot like Super Mario Galaxy can have an effective ending after all) but I imagine for a lot of reviewers it doesn't play much into the scoring.

Though considering the scope of the game it's quite possible a number of them were still playing through the main quest when getting their reviews out soon as possible for the clicks.
In any case I'm sure the plot and such will at least become a regular talking point on forums for this game even if the reviews glossed over it.
 
Finished the game tonight after doing the last "dungeon" at the volcano. Love the game but the final boss fight was very lackluster like pretty much all 3D zelda games outside of Ocarina of Time. Wish they would do something more.


Also wish they would let me play through the game with the green tunic from the get-go.

Is it pretty much confirmed this is the Child timeline?


Glad I can finally visit this thread.
 

FZZ

Banned
Did you get the secret ending? It pretty much alludes to what (I believe) the story DLC will be. The beasts start malfunctioning, etc.

It's extremely odd that Zelda had the entire Triforce. The game never even mentions the Triforce once and then all of the sudden the writers throw it in as a deus ex machina to kill Ganon at the last moment?

I also found it odd how many references they made to Fi...

I'm saying breh

she's the reason the other champions died

Link gonna get revenge for Mipha brehs

bank on it
 

EloNoolah

Member
Did you get the secret ending? It pretty much alludes to what (I believe) the story DLC will be. The beasts start malfunctioning, etc.

It's extremely odd that Zelda had the entire Triforce. The game never even mentions the Triforce once and then all of the sudden the writers throw it in as a deus ex machina to kill Ganon at the last moment?

I also found it odd how many references they made to Fi...
Wait, so is the secret ending Aonuma teased the one with Link and Zelda about to depart for Zora's Domain because the Divine Beast is malfunctioning? I didn't think it was anything more than a post-credits stinger scene when I first saw it lol
 

RagnarokX

Member
I never finished Skyward Sword so I was unaware about that dream detail.
That said, why would her voice be muffled in the dream? That, and the "not of this world" part is what made me think of Midna.
Also, in one of the memories, the game actually shows the separate occasion when Zelda communicated with Fi/the Sword so that also made me think it wasn't about Fi.

Lastly, Fi is ugly, not beautiful. :p

But seriously, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part that it was about Midna. I just finished Twilight Princess for the first time a few weeks ago and I really liked her character. Disappointing that most Zelda fans don't feel the same way.

That dream is from the very beginning of the game. Fi appears to Link and warns him of the coming danger, which is pretty much what happened in Zelda's dream in BotW. Zelda isn't supposed to be the one hearing Fi's voice, though, so she couldn't. Not until she awakened her goddess powers. Fi was created by Hylia, and Zelda's powers are Hylia's, so communication was possible. Zelda says with her powers drained over 100 years she can't hear Fi anymore.

Zelda said she thought the woman was a fairy or a goddess, which is a hint that it was Fi.

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The reason that she didn't just wished Ganon away is because she and all of Hyrule don't have any idea what the Triforce is. Thats the way it seemed to me. Its been so incredibly long that now since the last games that its just passed down the family without them knowing it or knowing its power. Note how Zelda called it her "sealing power" and never "Triforce".

Anywayz: I hope its officially confirmed which timeline its in soon. It seems pretty obvious its in the Child Timleine due to "Embers of Twilight" (Although people earlier were saying that this can't be a TP reference or just an easter egg? lol wut.) the broken mirror of Twilight (tho it was completely shattered at the end of TP.) Ganon only reincarnating in the CT when its referenced at the end of BOTW "he gave up reincarnating" since the other timelines its all the same Ganondorf but in FSA its a "reincarnation". Plus the Rito were added in TP HD stone tablets so it seems obvious that its in the CT IMO. The whole "Ruto was a Sage" is the only thing against this and that could be explained away by saying that eventually the Link adrift in time told the story and eventually became Legend? I dunno. But thats only one thing against the CT when theres so many against the DT.

I also believe the DLC will be after BOTW. 100 years ago might work but 10,000 years ao wouldn't since the landscape would be so different. The divine beasts also stopped working since the Champions spirits moved on so DLC would be getting new ones. I really hope it stars Zelda and you can explore the entire world with her and not just the new story.

Overall in terms of story, yeah it was weak. Only the Zora ark was good. The Rito ark was over in 5 minutes, but atleast had that sister music sidequest.. Gorons and Gerudo were alright but not that good. Each story was too similar to the others.

Also glad to "see" Fi again. She was one of my favorite characters so glad to have her briefly return.

I loved the voice acting. All of it!

My favorite characters were: Zelda, Fi, Mipha, Purah, Sidon, Rito sisters, Daruk, Kass, Great Deku Tree, Rhoam, that guy who knelt with me, the first couple I saved in the forest, that metal box, and finaly spicy peppers.

My worst characters were: Pinkster the horse, all other horses that suck so I kill them, that deer which wouldn't go off the fucking mountain, and fire burning me in Death Mountain.

Seriously lots of great characters but the story doesn't hold up all that well in the end. I hope the next game has a better story, is also open world, and goes full on with the Scifi stuff since I love it.

No matter what if the next Zelda game is open world, which it better be, it needs to be in a completely different location since more of the same would be boring.

Well, we don't necessarily know that Zelda has the Triforce. A Triforce mark appears when she uses her powers, but the actual triforce is a solid 3D object that doesn't dwell within a person and has to be touched and a wish made upon it. The Triforce has also symbolized Zelda herself, and the series is rife with glowing Triforce marks that are not the actual Triforce.

The mirror of twilight is not in the game, and if it was that would be evidence against Child Timeline.
It's pretty clear that Ocarina of Time occurred in this timeline. That rules out Child Timeline because the events of Ocarina of Time that are referenced in BotW never transpired, and it's definitely not Adult Timeline.
The references to twilight are incredibly vague. Although Child Timeline is the only Timeline with the only game that involves the Twilight Realm, the Interloper War would have to be before OoT and, although it never appeared in other games, the Mirror of Twilight and Twilight Realm would logically exist in all 3 timelines. So references to Twilight could be a reference to the Interloper War, a reference to an event involving Twilight in the Downfall Timeline, or just a reference to the time of day.
The artwork added to TPHD depicts the Hero of Time meeting all of those races as a child. This implies that all of those races existed back then and logically in all 3 timelines.
 

NewGame

Banned
It's incredibly silly that she had it and didn't obliterate Calamity Ganon with zero issue.

It is implied that she didn't know how to use the power because she became dependant on the guardians.

BotW is a warning against technological dependace.
 

Astral Dog

Member
I did yeah, I'm just not sure they're going to go that route as the DLC will take place after the story and that's a big assumption to make that everyone has gotten that far... even after 10 months or so. I'd like to explore Hyrule Post-Calamity though, so all the Guardian's are gone...etc but I suppose that takes the threat out of the world.



I went searching:
C6gU4o7U8AATFzt.jpg:large

Well shit... that is 100% Lon Lon Ranch in its exact OoT layout... but destroyed.
Poor Malon's family they didn't survive the Great Calamity :(
 
That dream is from the very beginning of the game. Fi appears to Link and warns him of the coming danger, which is pretty much what happened in Zelda's dream in BotW. Zelda isn't supposed to be the one hearing Fi's voice, though, so she couldn't. Not until she awakened her goddess powers. Fi was created by Hylia, and Zelda's powers are Hylia's, so communication was possible. Zelda says with her powers drained over 100 years she can't hear Fi anymore.

Zelda said she thought the woman was a fairy or a goddess, which is a hint that it was Fi.

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Well, we don't necessarily know that Zelda has the Triforce. A Triforce mark appears when she uses her powers, but the actual triforce is a solid 3D object that doesn't dwell within a person and has to be touched and a wish made upon it. The Triforce has also symbolized Zelda herself, and the series is rife with glowing Triforce marks that are not the actual Triforce.

The mirror of twilight is not in the game, and if it was that would be evidence against Child Timeline.
It's pretty clear that Ocarina of Time occurred in this timeline. That rules out Child Timeline because the events of Ocarina of Time that are referenced in BotW never transpired, and it's definitely not Adult Timeline.
The references to twilight are incredibly vague. Although Child Timeline is the only Timeline with the only game that involves the Twilight Realm, the Interloper War would have to be before OoT and, although it never appeared in other games, the Mirror of Twilight and Twilight Realm would logically exist in all 3 timelines. So references to Twilight could be a reference to the Interloper War, a reference to an event involving Twilight in the Downfall Timeline, or just a reference to the time of day.
The artwork added to TPHD depicts the Hero of Time meeting all of those races as a child. This implies that all of those races existed back then and logically in all 3 timelines.

The Mirror of Twilight IS in the game. On the beach east of Lurelin Village at the Palmorae Ruins. It is cracked like it was in TP before Midna completely destroyed it, but it was only because of Ganondorf that it was cracked like that in the first place so it still points to CT. You even find the three mirror shards in BOTW like you do in TP.

Memory #1 confirms timeline to me. They would never say that line unless it was meant to be Child Timeline.theres no way its refrerencing the interloper war when that was never in a game where you play during it and considering she said "embers of twilight" after "adrift in time" she was saying it in timeline order.

I mean its usually within a month that they confirm the timeline, right? So hopefully full confirmation soon but due to multiple things, especially memory #1 I just can't see it being any other timeline.

I am willing to avatar bet that it takes place in the CT. Thats how confident I am.

I await official confirmation with eagerness.
In before its officialy confirmed in Adult Timeline breaking all of our theories.

No matter which timeline it takes place in, its kinda depressing. Triforce forgotten. Green Tunic forgotten. The King demanding Zelda to "play her role" despite her not wanting too. Its a depressing game when you think about everything.
 

Nepenthe

Member
So, just beat the game. Good. Great. Love it to bits. 10/10 would erase my memories and do it again. But rewatching the story cut scenes, man.... I just feel so fucking bad for Zelda.

You've got a 16/17 year old child burdened with the responsibility of not only figuring out a sacred power, but doing so without any real aid and on a strict time limit in the face of an impeding apocalypse. The only other person who could've lent a helping hand- her mother- died when she was young, so she's on her own. Despite all of this, deep down, she doesn't even want to do this; she wants to be a nerd and just learn nerd shit all day, quite appropriate for her Triforce association. Regardless, she has all of these setbacks and has to bury her true passions, and the fucking courtyard basic bitches just talk shit about her behind her back. They have no inkling of how to deal with the issue, no idea of what it means to be close to harnessing any real power worthy of note, but they still feel the need to talk about her "inheriting a kingdom of failure." It's some fuckboi shit.

But what really gets me is that the King is so embarrassed by this that he can't bother being empathetic with his own daughter who's basically drowning with no one aside from Link and perhaps Urbosa and Mipha who really give a damn and understand, and instead admonishes her for doing the things she's really good at and helping out with. Like, dude, get it together. Put forth a little fucking effort to be a good dad.

It makes me wonder, then, about the idea that WW put in my head that half the reason Hyrule is always under attack by Ganon in the first place is because of the kingdom's own follies, both physical and ethical, and how that may follow through here in BotW. Of course the Guardians aided in the physical destruction, but had they not unearthed them, Calamity Ganon probably would've done so anyway since they were buried underground where he was. The best case scenario then- ironically- was Zelda actually putting in the effort to learn about them. But ultimately, what if, just what if, people stopped long enough to nurture Zelda in a different manner, to be a better kingdom to its own princess? She might have understood sooner that her power relies on an instinctual need to protect that isn't forced, and thus tapped into the power sooner and lowered the casualties. Instead, the king and all of those basic bitches are now dead, and Zelda had to live with that for 100 years while he never got to actually apologize, or even talk to her since.

It's fucking tragic, but in the end, it feels like Hyrule just brings this shit onto itself sometimes. xP
 
The Mirror of Twilight IS in the game. On the beach east of Lurelin Village at the Palmorae Ruins. It is cracked like it was in TP before Midna completely destroyed it, but it was only because of Ganondorf that it was cracked like that in the first place so it still points to CT. You even find the three mirror shards in BOTW like you do in TP.

Memory #1 confirms timeline to me. They would never say that line unless it was meant to be Child Timeline.theres no way its refrerencing the interloper war when that was never in a game where you play during it and considering she said "embers of twilight" after "adrift in time" she was saying it in timeline order.

I mean its usually within a month that they confirm the timeline, right? So hopefully full confirmation soon but due to multiple things, especially memory #1 I just can't see it being any other timeline.

I am willing to avatar bet that it takes place in the CT. Thats how confident I am.

I await official confirmation with eagerness.
In before its officialy confirmed in Adult Timeline breaking all of our theories.

No matter which timeline it takes place in, its kinda depressing. Triforce forgotten. Green Tunic forgotten. The King demanding Zelda to "play her role" despite her not wanting too. Its a depressing game when you think about everything.

Was that the mirror of twilight though? I thought it was just a round slab. How could it be the mirror if Midna destroys it at the end of TP?

Green tunic isn't forgotten. The monk's gift it to link as a symbol of his courage once you complete all the shrines.

And I don't think the triforce is forgotten. They have it as a symbol on everything. I think the writers just forgot to explicitly mention it - which makes zero sense seeing as Zelda whips it out like it's nothing.
 
Was that the mirror of twilight though? I thought it was just a round slab. How could it be the mirror if Midna destroys it at the end of TP?

Green tunic isn't forgotten. The monk's gift it to link as a symbol of his courage once you complete all the shrines.

And I don't think the triforce is forgotten. They have it as a symbol on everything. I think the writers just forgot to explicitly mention it - which makes zero sense seeing as Zelda whips it out like it's nothing.

Over tens of thousands of years it could have simply gone from a symbol of a specific religious/godly thing to just 'a traditional symbol of Hyrule', though. Easily. There are things that happened 1000 years ago we don't fully understand or have recorded.

It's clear Hyrule went through an era of technical advancement beyond anything it'd seen before, and then something or another caused this technology to be forgotten and buried, literally in the case of the latter. One thing that can accompany technical advancement and enlightenment is a reduced interest in religion, and with that things could be lost easily.

Where the hell was "Fi"? Is when Zelda talks to the Master Sword before links 'dies'?

You can view these moments as the character Fi or just as 'the blade', I guess, but the Master Sword having a will of its own (choosing its master, deciding if someone is powerful enough to wield it, 'speaking' to Zelda to tell her there's still a chance etc) and that consciousness within the sword begins with Fi, of course. How cognizant that is of the personality of Fi is an unknown, obviously.
 

KingBroly

Banned
This is one game where I don't understand the properties of the Triforce. I know people are asking why Zelda didn't use the Triforce if she had it the entire time, but maybe she didn't know how to use it? Maybe she simply didn't want to use it until Link came back. Many, many questions to ask here in regards to the story.

In SS, Link had the complete Triforce. Here, Zelda had it. In LttP, Ganon had it. So I guess it's in that timeline where the Triforce is always united? Zelda's lack of use of it is a bit...odd, I must say. Maybe there was simply a stalemate between Zelda and Ganon for 100 years while she was stuck in Ganon's bio-mechanical heart.


And the whole 10,000 years thing REALLY felt like a way for them to get away from the whole timeline shit for a while.
 

RagnarokX

Member
The Mirror of Twilight IS in the game. On the beach east of Lurelin Village at the Palmorae Ruins. It is cracked like it was in TP before Midna completely destroyed it, but it was only because of Ganondorf that it was cracked like that in the first place so it still points to CT. You even find the three mirror shards in BOTW like you do in TP.

Memory #1 confirms timeline to me. They would never say that line unless it was meant to be Child Timeline.theres no way its refrerencing the interloper war when that was never in a game where you play during it and considering she said "embers of twilight" after "adrift in time" she was saying it in timeline order.

I mean its usually within a month that they confirm the timeline, right? So hopefully full confirmation soon but due to multiple things, especially memory #1 I just can't see it being any other timeline.

I am willing to avatar bet that it takes place in the CT. Thats how confident I am.

I await official confirmation with eagerness.
In before its officialy confirmed in Adult Timeline breaking all of our theories.

No matter which timeline it takes place in, its kinda depressing. Triforce forgotten. Green Tunic forgotten. The King demanding Zelda to "play her role" despite her not wanting too. Its a depressing game when you think about everything.

That's not the Mirror of Twilight. It's just a round stone monument that has instructions on how to access a shrine written on it. Midna vaporized the Mirror of Twilight at the end of TP.

Apparently Zelda also mentions a Hero crossing the ocean when she's being drown out by the champions, so I don't think Memory #1 is meant to be anything more than empty references.
 

fastmower

Member
This has been the worst Zelda story for me with the worst characters - but I loved playing the game, so my feelings are mixed. The ending was such a dud too. I'm a little sad...
 
The Gerudo champion stated that "ganon once took the form of a male gerudo".

This would indicate this game takes place during the OOT timeline obviously. 10,000 years?
 
I think Zelda not sealing Calamity for good straight away is due to the fact that most knowledge of the Triforce and traditional Zelda lore in this era seems to be lost. She just knows it as a "sealing power".

The last "traditional" Zelda story where they knew of the power was the attack 10,000 years ago.
 

Phoenixus

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The Gerudo champion stated that "ganon once took the form of a male gerudo".

This would indicate this game takes place during the OOT timeline obviously. 10,000 years?

I reckon they're subtly referring to the reborn ganon from Four Swords adventures. He was also a gerudo if I remember correctly.
 

mStudios

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I think this will be the last time we see Ganon. Either a new enemy will be born or Ganon will take a new form.

Didn't Zelda say he gave up his reecarnation when he took the pig form?
 

RagnarokX

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I think this will be the last time we see Ganon. Either a new enemy will be born or Ganon will take a new form.

Didn't Zelda say he gave up his reecarnation when he took the pig form?

No. If you scan Calamity Ganon into your pokedex it tells you that Ganon was in the process of reincarnating into a physical form when Link interrupted him and forced him to fight in an incomplete form. When Link beats that form Ganon gives up on reincarnating (into that form) to come at Link with his full power. They meant he just postponed reincarnation to kill Link. Zelda even says afterwards Ganon may come back some day.
 

zeldablue

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The King has a diary somewhere in the castle. I haven't found it but he talks about feeling bad for pushing Zelda into doing some obscure holy stuff.

He says if Zelda comes back from the spring of wisdom without her power awakened then he would console her and not berate her.

Then he died. :/

The ending disappointed me, I hope the dlc does something to make the story less...short.
 

PrimeBeef

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And the whole 10,000 years thing REALLY felt like a way for them to get away from the whole timeline shit for a while.
It can also explain why she didn't know what the Triforce really was or what it could really do. The first cut scene really explained it IMO. It said that it was a legend passed down. For 10,000 years. They jad no clue it was real until Calamity Ganon showed up. It makes complete sense that Zelda has no clue to the real power she had with the full Triforce.
 
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