aggienader
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I will not support this. Fuck this. I'll wait for the reviews, then WON'T buy it for the switch.
But you are buying the console for the ability to play portably and on your TV, the game doesn't require any special sauce to run in both modes. That's like saying all cross platform Xbox One games should be $10 higher because the same version can be played on your console and on your PC.
If you're happy to pay an extra $10 per Switch game for the reasons you have stated all power to you, but there isn't logic there, and I think you're allowing yourself to be ripped off. But it's your money, so...
They might be. The Binding of Issac people said about $5 for the cart and the packaging. But they might be buying in greater bulk. And it's not like a Blu-ray and case costs $0.
But yeah, if it's a few dollar more for Physical, I think that's fair.
But when digital is also $10 more.
Unless Nintendo brand 1s and 0s are more expensive...
Haha get screwed. Cartridges cost money, sure. Double the price is some bullshit though. Is the digital release $29 though? There should be no reason for the digital version to be $60
Thank you for coming back. With how toxic this situation is becoming, I don't know if I would if I was in your shoes. And I know this decision is likely out of your hands so I hope people won't "Kill the messenger".
I will respectfully re-ask my questions from a few pages back. I know you might not be able (or at liberty) to answer them but, I really think someone DOES need to address them:
I think it is not to late to fix the messaging on this. But the window of opportunity is closing. People are beginning to think of this title as "That price-gouging Switch game" rather than "That gorgeous looking adventure title that is finally coming out". And once those ideas take root, they are hard to change.
Again, thank you for your time.
It seems those cartridges are costly!
They might be. The Binding of Issac people said about $5 for the cart and the packaging. But they might be buying in greater bulk. And it's not like a Blu-ray and case costs $0.
But yeah, if it's a few dollar more for Physical, I think that's fair.
But when digital is also $10 more.
Unless Nintendo brand 1s and 0s are more expensive...
Who wants to bet it's because of the cartridge cost? Factories have been making discs for who knows how long but now carts are being used again and even on N64 games were expensive compared to PS1 and Saturn.
Nintendo can't make digital games cheaper or stores won't carry their games or hardware in their stores.
The carts of the old are in no shape or form even near these.
They're completely different
I'm not sure that's such a good analogy. You might be willing to pay more for the car because of the additional feature, but I doubt you expect to pay more for the same gas every time you fill up.I think a good analogy is a car. You buy a car but then a new version comes out that has exactly the same specs and interior but it's convertible - people gladly pay more for the convenience even though the car is the same.
Who wants to bet it's because of the cartridge cost? Factories have been making discs for who knows how long but now carts are being used again and even on N64 games were expensive compared to PS1 and Saturn.
Nintendo can't make digital games cheaper or stores won't carry their games or hardware in their stores.
It doesn't require special sauce I understand that. But the feature is worth the extra £10 for me. If I had to buy a new generation Nintendo 3DS as well as a home console to play my Switch games, I could be doing that instead. I'm not saying they should be higher but they are - and it Is totally worth it for me.
Some time later this year I was planning on buying Stardew Valley on Steam. But I'm easily going for the Switch version now, so I can not only play at home but on the go too.
I don't get what's so difficult to 'get'. This isn't your average console.
I think a good analogy is a car. You buy a car but then a new version comes out that has exactly the same specs and interior but it's convertible - people gladly pay more for the convenience even though the car is the same.
There were two "correct" ways to handle this situation without pissing off consumers.
1.) take the loss on the Switch carts
or
2.) raise the price of the other versions
Pretty simple really.
I literally lol'd.
They are out of their fucking minds.
How stupid do they think we are?
Nintendo can't make digital games cheaper or stores won't carry their games or hardware in their stores.
A recent Reggie Fils Aime interview contradicts what the Tequilaworks PR guy said earlier in the thread. Basically, manufacturing costs do come into play but ultimately it is the publisher who sets the price.
It's actually not that black and white, they could make it work.Nintendo can't make digital games cheaper or stores won't carry their games or hardware in their stores.
Lmao no one will buy the Switch version. I certainly won't be getting it at all now.
EDIT: Oh there's an update to the article. But it's still ridiculous haha:
ITT people ganging up on the developer (least likely to be wanting to price gouge), rather than the publisher (more likely) or Nintendo (way more likely).
The PR manager's response makes it clear that the only way to sell the game at a profit on the Switch is at that price point, which implies, no matter what Reggie says, that Nintendo is back to their old tricks of charging excessive fees for cartridges and other licenses. But you cannot just go out and state something like that in public without ruining your business relations with Nintendo.
Your only hope is that the actual audience is somehow smart enough to figure that out on their own. But it seem that the GAF hivemind has failed at that and is more than willing to punish the most vulnerable party in this threeway.
ITT people ganging up on the developer (least likely to be wanting to price gouge), rather than the publisher (more likely) or Nintendo (way more likely).
The PR manager's response makes it clear that the only way to sell the game at a profit on the Switch is at that price point, which implies, no matter what Reggie says, that Nintendo is back to their old tricks of charging excessive fees for cartridges and other licenses. But you cannot just go out and state something like that in public without ruining your business relations with Nintendo.
Your only hope is that the actual audience is somehow smart enough to figure that out on their own. But it seem that the GAF hivemind has failed at that and is more than willing to punish the most vulnerable party in this threeway.
I've not seen anyone give actual figures but we have had some in the know state that it is definitely not a $10 difference, which I think is pretty obvious.
This is just not true.ITT people ganging up on the developer (least likely to be wanting to price gouge), rather than the publisher (more likely) or Nintendo (way more likely).
The PR manager's response makes it clear that the only way to sell the game at a profit on the Switch is at that price point, which implies, no matter what Reggie says, that Nintendo is back to their old tricks of charging excessive fees for cartridges and other licenses. But you cannot just go out and state something like that in public without ruining your business relations with Nintendo.
Your only hope is that the actual audience is somehow smart enough to figure that out on their own. But it seem that the GAF hivemind has failed at that and is more than willing to punish the most vulnerable party in this threeway.
This is just not true.
Still proprietary tech so the costs are inherently higher than blurays and such.
ITT people ganging up on the developer (least likely to be wanting to price gouge), rather than the publisher (more likely) or Nintendo (way more likely).
The PR manager's response makes it clear that the only way to sell the game at a profit on the Switch is at that price point, which implies, no matter what Reggie says, that Nintendo is back to their old tricks of charging excessive fees for cartridges and other licenses. But you cannot just go out and state something like that in public without ruining your business relations with Nintendo.
Your only hope is that the actual audience is somehow smart enough to figure that out on their own. But it seem that the GAF hivemind has failed at that and is more than willing to punish the most vulnerable party in this threeway.
GAF hivemind
Not sure why people are so damn quick to blame Nintendo for damn everything...
Nintendo could very easily prevent this outcome by protecting their customers with a simple policy preventing publishers/developers from charging more for their games on Switch than they do on other similar platforms.
Like what Sony and Microsoft do.
I'm not sure that's such a good analogy. You might be willing to pay more for the car because of the additional feature, but I doubt you expect to pay more for the same gas every time you fill up.
Nintendo could very easily prevent this outcome by protecting their customers with a simple policy preventing publishers/developers from charging more for their games on Switch than they do on other similar platforms.
Like what Sony and Microsoft do.
Not sure why people are so damn quick to blame Nintendo for damn everything...
In any case, this is 100% an issue with the publisher of this game. They decide their own price and the costs involved (outside of the carts themselves). Nintendo has nothing to do with this. They can easily fix this by making the digital version the same price across the board. That would end this debate, but what they're doing is insane. If the development costs were what they are, then why not spread that across all platforms? It doesn't matter where that money comes from (a sale is a sale), so all versions cover the total cost of development across all versions. Instead, they're lumping the majority of the costs on one version that may ultimately underperform at the price it's at. If all versions were $39.99, then that would have been received better than what they're propositioning right now.
It's like they're forcing NS owners to pay for the privilege of being able to play the game on that system...like they're doing them a favor for making the game in the first place. That's not how this works, but if they want to try and recoup that cost through only one userbase, then more power to them. In all honesty, I hope it blows up in their face.
I really hope some developer or publisher leaks the cost of Switch game cards soon, it would be interesting to see how much they cost.
I also really hope Nintendo isn't charging a mark up for them and are selling them at cost to developers and publishers to help keep the costs for the physical media as low as possible for third parties.
I'm sure Nicalis said in interviews/comments about the added cost of the cart increasing retail costs and gave a $ amount, I can't find the interview right now though.
Producing a cart will always cost more than producing a CD/BD, the latter have manufacturers/pressers in such abundant numbers.
I really hope some developer or publisher leaks the cost of Switch game cards soon, it would be interesting to see how much they cost.
I also really hope Nintendo isn't charging a mark up for them and are selling them at cost to developers and publishers to help keep the costs for the physical media as low as possible for third parties.
Every game except for Rime seems to be fine with not gouging Switch owners.And then watch a lot of titles not release on Switch at all.
Every other cross-platform third-party planned on Switch costs the same across all platforms, except for this one. The problem is not Nintendo.
Every game except for Rime seems to be fine with not gouging Switch owners.
Every other cross-platform third-party planned on Switch costs the same across all platforms, except for this one. The problem is not Nintendo.