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[culafia]

I know Colin is a bad example, but I do think one of the more dangerous things in video game discourse is when message boards go out of their way to make anyone with right-leaning views feel unwelcome. There is no good vs. evil fight in the left vs. right. This ain't a damn video game. Turning gaming into an echo chamber makes for a worse community.

I get that he said a thing or two he really, REALLY shouldn't have said from his position of authority to a wider audience (or at least understand and respect that others think that), but I get the feeling that more than a bit of this celebration comes from the fact that someone with different political views no longer gets to be employed.

 

[EmiPrime]

Good. Will give KF another chance now.

 

[Servbot24]

He's gone on record that all he said was "He's smart" and people latched onto that as some confirmation that he's a big fan.

It's not that he's a fan, it's that people questioned why that is the main takeaway he had when addressing Bannon. Like you're just going to ignore all Bannon's horrible shit to just say that he's super smart?

It was one fucking tweet.

how many thousands of times does it have to be stated that it was not the tweet

 

[gow3isben]

So sad he is leaving he's a smart insightful guy. The absolutely annoying response to his completely run off the mill joke on twitter is absurd. I say shit like that about my girlfriend all the time and she says it about me.

If another famous female personality said, "ah great, no men to stink up the place" or something no one would bat an eye. As it should be because it is a random harmless joke.

I am unsubscribing from Kinda Funny. Tim is awesome but really not too much incentive to watch that channel anymore.

Neogaf displaying its typical bigoted behavior as expected.

 

[robotrock]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

IT.
WASN'T.
ABOUT.
A.
SINGLE.
JOKE.

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[ZeoVGM]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

It wasn't that one tweet.

 

[sirap]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

It was not because of "one fucking tweet."

Try again.

 

[Colonel Nasty]

Nice I can finally support Greg. It's like when you have a friend with a shitty roommate.

 

[SomedayTheFire]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

It's not about one tweet lmao. How many times does this need to be said?

 

[slick7rick]

He was my favorite of the KF bunch and without him, I won't be watching. I don't agree with him politically, but I respected how he spoke his mind. Shame how it only takes a small group to ruin a career.

 

[birthbystars]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

There was a lot more going on than just that one tweet. It just so happens that that one tweet really set off a firestorm. It was basically the spark that lit up the entire powder keg that is Colin.

 

[Illusive_Juan]

I loved hearing his opinions on the gaming front and always though him and Greg were great together. I hope Kinda Funny is able to recover from this.

With that said, I feel like I need to make this point. People should not post their personal beliefs or make political posts on accounts associated with a persona. It destroys too many brands and idk why people feel the need to use their audiences for their soap boxes.

I know people feel that points need to be made for certain subjects, but there are some people who choose to follow certain personalities just for their persona on a given niche. Once things get political, things do more harm than good.

Yes, I know that there are times where the community can get together for the greater good over a political subject, and it's great when that happens! But when it's done to blatantly get a rise out of someone or the community, it is often destructive and hurts communities.

Rule of thumb is that if you aren't sure you should post it, don't. Especially when the potential losses greatly outweigh the gains.


Edit: I know it's more than just the tweet, but you can't deny that it was a big factor in all this.

 

[a916]

They're cancelling PS I Love You

They kinda have to. It was a 50/50 thing... Tim can't do that lol, he doesn't have the in-depth knowledge of PS like Colin does.

 

[DNAbro]

Lol hell no.

Can't believe people got outraged by a joke tweet, even his gf was pissed about the outrage. So stupid.

On top of being a joke that seemingly should only appeal to 12 year olds, it was very much Colin trying to cause a controversy. He knew exactly what the response would be and wanted to cause it.

 

[jeffram]

Colin has certainly been out of his element for a while, and I think it hurt kinda funny. However, Colin was right seemed to be the perfect outlet for him to do what he liked doing and contributing to the business. Odd timing on his diparture

 

[TheMrPliskin]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

No, it wasn't one tweet.

 

[FelipeMGM]

They're cancelling PS I Love You

tbh, its the best thing to do. That show is about Colin and Greg chemistry really

 

[Holundrian]

I like them doubling down on building something that is about positivity. I hope they succeed this time.

 

[BitStyle]

IT.
WASN'T.
ABOUT.
A.
SINGLE.
JOKE.

I'm surprised why some can't seem to grasp this.

 

[JABEE]

it's not like they aren't going to be friends, they'll still each other. I've worked at places where my friends (not coworker friends, but actual friends) worked together and then at some point they left or I left, no need to be super crying about it.

Didn't they take a risk and start their own company together, leaving "secure" gaming press jobs? I would imagine their structure and situation is different than your friend getting a new, probably better paying job. This situation seems to be triggered by a real separation and public animus towards the conduct of their friend.

Colin leaves in part due to an old, hacky joke that is probably the first response on every internet article you will see stating "imagine a day without women." For a person who wants to be serious about politics and believes they are a political commentator though, it is irresponsible and easy to use this as a reflection on his actual views on women or some kind of animosity.

This impacts how Kinda Funny is perceived on the internet and on YouTube. These comments matter and can damage their business/brand. I would imagine there were disagreements over doing stuff like this in the future and Colin doesn't want to be boxed in to what he can comment on. Now he can look elsewhere for a place that has no issues with the range of ideas he wants to talk about.

 

[JJH]

KF literally just posted a video with Colin talking about BOTW where he didn't finish the tutorial and started comparing it to HZD and criticizing the game.

 

[jennetics]

Fucking no way. That's hard to read :\ Best of luck Colin. I don't agree with you on most anything but I still have plenty of respect for ya.

 

[Frozenprince]

IT.
WASN'T.
ABOUT.
A.
SINGLE.
JOKE.

If I spent the better part of a year and a half, as a public face of a company, actively fostering a divisive, often times outright hostile section of my companies consumer base, I'd be fired so quick I wouldn't even have time to clean my desk.

This is how things work, it's like many of you don't live in this strange place, what's it called... oh yeah the real world.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Honestly I can't see how anyone can get that upset about the joke tweet, also if they even knew anything about Colin he loves and respects his girlfriend and his sister played a massive role in bringing him up. I wonder if at 34 I'm just out of touch with the outrage culture and I'm a labour voting NHS loving left leaning lover of people.

So are you not going to answer my question where I asked you to explain more about the "intolerant left" that you mentioned?

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

You are really diluting the term neo-Nazi. You can not like his politics, but he didn't hold water for Trump and his most extremist cronies whatsoever.

I had my gripes with Colin at times as well but the hyperbole here is ridiculous.

I was referring to the comment he made about Bannon, I never called Colin a neo-Nazi.

 

[GitarooMan]

IT.
WASN'T.
ABOUT.
A.
SINGLE.
JOKE.

Don't even bother. People will try to push that narrative even while ignoring the mountains and months of context that led up to this.

Anyway, I'm a really big fan of Greg, I'm interested to see what he can do without being tied to Colin.

 

[dh4niel]

So that's who is replacing Drew!

You'll see Greg Miller at GB before you see him.

 

[kevin1025]

This is how I feel, Not that I always agree with collin or like the guy most of the times.
But I like KF & KF Games and like how they interact with the community.
Colin just needed to say sorry maybe took my "joke" to far and stay offline for a weekend come back on Monday fresh and excited to have great week with the community.

My main question is just:

WHY.................. why take it this far.

You're asking for him to say sorry. He had all the time in the world to say he was sorry, and chose to leave his workplace instead. It wasn't taken too far, he clearly meant it. I think it's more that his baits and trolls had become a pattern, and his outrage at outrage culture had itself become the very thing he hated.

 

[TangentialShark]

I was gonna respond but then I saw this:



boi you ain't worth it

Why did you spell the word "boy" wrong? Are you being a misogynist? *Am I doing this outrage thing correctly?*

 

[Apathy]

They kinda have to. It was a 50/50 thing... Tim can't do that lol, he doesn't have the in-depth knowledge of PS like Colin does.

Gotta get Goldfarb and Clements back together

 

[Jamie OD]

It was one fucking tweet, was no reason to resign from something you started. I just started getting into the Colin Was Right series as well.

Man I don't think this is the right call but he will definitely take off on his own.

It was the straw that broke the camel's back. If you think it's just from that one tweet then you haven't been paying attention at all.

 

[SweetJohnnyCage]

Don't know a lot about him aside from his political opinions (I don't watch KF), but I can't say I'm surprised. That said, I'm interested to see how this affects Patreon numbers. It's gone down a bit since I started looking about 20 minutes ago. Would hate for this to have a significantly negative impact.

 

[DorkyMohr]

What will dis mean for the animated series??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yhISvYtugM

 

[Goldenroad]

Honestly I can't see how anyone can get that upset about the joke tweet, .

If you don't understand how someone from your company calling your customers "humorless sacks of shit", is worth getting upset over, then you clearly don't understand how business works and should, as such, probably not make yourself look uninformed by commenting on it.

 

[Jacce]

He's gone on record that all he said was "He's smart" and people latched onto that as some confirmation that he's a big fan.

He has gone on record saying he agrees with much of Trumps platform.

He has said he is against diversity for diversitys sake.

He isn't Mr. Innocent here. Colin has a history of stirring the nationalistic pot that Bannon is very much part ofit.

 

[BajiBoxer]

Honestly not surprised. At times I felt like I was playing more AAA games than him even though I have a full time job. It just seemed weird that he would take breaks from playing games when it was his job. While I don't agree with his political views, I thought he offered great insight into video games. I only really watched ps I love you, and without him I think I'm done watching KF. I've been watching more EZ allies lately.

Yes, I do agree that he occasionally had some interesting things to say about videogames when he wasn't calling things garbage or rehashing old forum topics.

 

[Jakoo]

I was referring to the comment he made about Bannon, I never called Colin a neo-Nazi.

I misunderstood, thanks for clarifying.

 

[SerTapTap]

I'm surprised why some can't seem to grasp this.

They do, but willful ignorance is how they avoid being called bigots. It's like how if you can't see someone they can't see you.

 

[Jonboy]

Pointing out inaccuracies takes a few seconds, you could've pointed at least one out in the time it took you to say how difficult pointing out inaccuracies would be.

The very quote I responded to was an example.

 

[stump sock]

a stupid, tasteless joke he made. That I could have made myself on any day of the week. That my dad could have made, anyone could have done it.

anyone could. many wouldn't. even fewer would take the opportunity to double, triple down on refusing to empathize.

 

[Albino_Yeti]

His stance of being against diversity for diversity's sake is pretty damning.

Unless you are racist or sexist you are for diversity for diversities sake, period. That was the commented that cemented his downfall.

Not to derail the thread, but I don't believe that's always the case. What if the game in question is a historical setting? Say for example, there's a game about D-Day. Diversity for diversity's sake entails that you throw in some female soldiers. But, if the game is going for historical accuracy, wouldn't the inclusion of these groups hurt that? Saying you don't want female soldiers in your historically accurate D-Day game doesn't make you sexist.

 

[Zemm]

Colin Moriarty's legacy lol

Am I being trolled?

 

[Alucrid]

So I don't follow Colin on twitter but this is an example where I feel like you can read different ways this depending upon the context. I don't think saying Bannon is "smart" is necessarily an endorsement of his politics. Clearly he is smart in some evil genius type of way.

From what I have gathered on PS I Love You, Colin was not a fan of Trump, but perhaps I was wrong...I don't feel the need to hold water for Colin honestly haha

if you look down at the replies colin continually deflects criticism of bannon based off of content from the website he is the executive chair of because he didn't directly say or write them.

he takes this defense even further in this neogaf post

Unlike I'm assuming everyone who has a problem with this, I worked at a major publication, and have had hundreds of things published. There were articles my bosses absolutely disagreed with. More than one. But they published them.

I don't condone Bannon's demeanor or stances, and I don't read Brietbart, so I can't really speak to it. What I can say is that, if his publication worked like many others in this world, he doesn't necessarily condone or agree with what's written. I'm not saying he does or doesn't. I'm just saying that, from my personal experience, there are categorically things on IGN I wrote that were published even though the powers that be didn't agree with what was written, because that's how it works.

that's a lot of leeway to deflect the idea that steve bannon is in someway a morally repugnant human being

 

[Mister X]

He's seemed disinterested in gaming nearly since KF started. Game after game would come out and he'd say "Spent a little time with it, wasn't for me", or, "I don't have time to play games". Not exactly something that I found enjoyable to watch, he almost makes me feel guilty about being a video game fanatic. I love the rest of the crew though, and I hope Tim can fill the void, he at least brings interest and enthusiasm into the show.

You could see it in today's gamescast, where Tim and Greg have been so excited about Zelda, then Colin sums the game up in 40 seconds with his usual lack of interest. I hope with him gone they can spend more time talking about games that have come out instead of hyping up a game and then dismissing it immediately after it comes out.

 

[GloriousBagel]

actions have consequences.

it's amazing, i know.

It's a dumb joke, just like 'boys will be boys', 'Boys go to Jupiter
To get more stupider
Girls go to college
To get more knowledge!'

For Christ sake, he's not on an active war on women. JonTron on the other hand is a psychopath.

 

[purseowner]

Good riddance to a reprehensible waste of space.

 

[Frozenprince]

Honestly I can't see how anyone can get that upset about the joke tweet, also if they even knew anything about Colin he loves and respects his girlfriend and his sister played a massive role in bringing him up. I wonder if at 34 I'm just out of touch with the outrage culture and I'm a labour voting NHS loving left leaning lover of people.

What outrage?

For the most part this thread has been pretty reasonable, nobody is calling him hitler incarnate. Yes there's always a few outliers based on how the demographics for this place probably skew younger for those people, but still.

Just saying "outrage culture" over and over doesn't make it a thing.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Colin's back on the stream again; says they should continue PS I Love You. Confirms he's selling shares back to company

 

[Skux]

That's too bad. He was a good foil to Greg on their podcast and that's what made it entertaining.

 

[madmackem]

So are you not going to answer my question where I asked you to explain more about the "intolerant left" that you mentioned?

Just look at the crazy shit that's going on of late, people smashing up a college because of a speaker, the left is becoming less and less what they should stand for.