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[Darryl M R]

If you don't agree with Colin that the piece spawned from that culture, that's fine. I'm saying jumping from that to he's a bigot, not that you believe that but many people here have made that jump, is ridiculous.

The Guerilla dev sad: “That said, with the kind of culture of the internet that we have right now, it's impossible to predict what it is that may offend”

Which is the same thing Colin said. I think your problem is in the way Colin said it. But it's completely fine to think something is absolutely ridiculous. Doesn't make someone a bad person and he certainly doesn't do that all the time.

An internet culture of not knowing what will offend someone is not the same as the bullshit phrase "outrage culture."

Define the word outrage.

Colin did not just say that he went further to make outlandish claims that allies are not needed for minorities. He did not even read the article he ranted on because he made the statement that "Native Americans can defend Native Americans" which is stupid because the author is Native American. Colin did nothing more than let out a Twitter rant he had within him. Colin also believes that cultural appropriation is not a real thing. He believes white people can dress up as Native Americans as costumes.

His thoughts are not those of a good person especially when he hides behind "let's be civil and respectful" only to shit on someone.

 

[ScientificPizza]

He was dismissive because the piece was absolutely ridiculous. Being dismissive doesn't make you a shitty person. Some arguments are indeed ridiculous and deserve to be dismissed. The Horizon dev did the same thing but in a more polite manner when he talked about how so many are offended easily. Doesn't make Colin a terrible human being.

It's *not* absolutely ridiculous. The fact that you find it ridiculous is irrelevant, you don't get to decide what people do and do not think about appropriation

I'm not saying it makes Colin an overall shitty person, but in that particular moment he was completely unempathetic and shitty. It is not difficult to open your mind to other ideas even if you end up disagreeing with them. To try and invalid an entire train of thought just because you're not personally offended or affected by something is a stupid and ignorant thing to do

 

[Darryl M R]

Yeah, I gave my opinion on a forum. It's just an internet forum. It isn't that serious, man. And if someone can educate me on something, I'm all for it.

So I shouldn't have a right to speak my mind if I'm unaware of an internet hashtag that was derived from something fairly recently?

I've been extremely busy with my personal life lately between my full time job I started recently, and just things going on in my personal life. I apologize if I'm unaware of what's going on in the internet culture.

No you presented a statement as fact only to backtrack. Too many people want to rush to defend and attack something they know little about. So for the sake of discussion either study up on what you are discussing or clearly state that you are making assumptions.

He was dismissive because the piece was absolutely ridiculous. Being dismissive doesn't make you a shitty person. Some arguments are indeed ridiculous and deserve to be dismissed. The Horizon dev did the same thing but in a more polite manner when he talked about how so many are offended easily. Doesn't make Colin a terrible human being.

The article isn't ridiculous. It lacks understanding of the game but the concern that Native American culture was being used as a setting to display primitive tribes is not a ridiculous thing to raise eyebrows.

But Colin "We don't have civil discussions anymore" M made sure that he did not try to see it from the authors point of view and just attacked the article and went on an unnecessary rant that you can see Greg was hoping to stop midway.

 

[dolce]

No you presented a statement as fact only to backtrack. Too many people want to rush to defend and attack something they know little about. So for the sake of discussion either study up on what you are discussing or clearly state that you are making assumptions.

For the sake of discussion, you should stop jumping down peoples' throats. Deal with my statement. I gave my opinion that Colin's joke wasn't that bad and didn't have the ill intent many people on the internet claim. I admitted that I did not know the significance of the hashtag since I never heard of it. My former point stands.

 

[Cyclone]

An internet culture of not knowing what will offend someone is not the same as the bullshit phrase "outrage culture."

Define the word outrage.

Colin did not just say that he went further to make outlandish claims that allies are not needed for minorities. He did not even read the article he ranted on because he made the statement that "Native Americans can defend Native Americans" which is stupid because the author is Native American. Colin did nothing more than let out a Twitter rant he had within him. Colin also believes that cultural appropriation is not a real thing. He believes white people can dress up as Native Americans as costumes.

His thoughts are not those of a good person especially when he hides behind "let's be civil and respectful" only to shit on someone.

The crux of my point has to do with your last sentence. I don't want to even debate the specifics it'll be a useless back and forth. My problem is, how can people jump from a man who they disagree with on some points, to 'not a good person'?

I just don't get it. I don't believe.... I mean what the hell is cultural appropriation? Someone dresses up as a Native American for Halloween, and people then cry about that. Is that really an issue? Honestly. Even if it exists, what a minuscule, completely insignificant issue.

And you are ready to label someone as 'not a good person'? That's insane to me. I just don't understand that. You disagree with a few things, and suddenly the other person is not a good human. That is incredibly harsh, and I've seen that same sentiment all over this thread.

I'm sorry I don't believe you actually believe Colin Moriarty is literally a bad human being for the things you've listed. I can't imagine what you think about people who have significant disagreements with your worldview and opinions.

 

[thumb]

For the sake of discussion, you should stop jumping down peoples' throats. Deal with my statement. I gave my opinion that Colin's joke wasn't that bad and didn't have the ill intent many people on the internet claim. I admitted that I did not know the significance of the hashtag since I never heard of it. My former point stands.

Thanks, we were all waiting to learn your uninformed, unresearched judgment of the appropriateness of Colin's joke. Now that we have, we're better for it.

 

[GetLucky]

For the sake of discussion, you should stop jumping down peoples' throats. Deal with my statement. I gave my opinion that Colin's joke wasn't that bad and didn't have the ill intent many people on the internet claim. I admitted that I did not know the significance of the hashtag since I never heard of it. My former point stands.

Actually the second point kind of ruins your first point. You thought the joke wasn't that bad, but you also didn't entirely understand the joke, as it was a play on the hashtag. I understand getting piled on is rough though.

 

[Darryl M R]

For the sake of discussion, you should stop jumping down peoples' throats. Deal with my statement. I gave my opinion that Colin's joke wasn't that bad and didn't have the ill intent many people on the internet claim. I admitted that I did not know the significance of the hashtag since I never heard of it. My former point stands.

No one jumping down your throat. I suggested you read up on what you discuss beforehand. You can take my suggestion or continue to talk about things you do not know about only to backtrack afterward. Your former point does not stand especially knowing that Colin knew about the hashtag well beforehand and his actions clearly show a build up of trolling

 

[Cyclone]

It's *not* absolutely ridiculous. The fact that you find it ridiculous is irrelevant, you don't get to decide what people do and do not think about appropriation

I'm not saying it makes Colin an overall shitty person, but in that particular moment he was completely unempathetic and shitty. It is not difficult to open your mind to other ideas even if you end up disagreeing with them. To try and invalid an entire train of thought just because you're not personally offended or affected by something is a stupid and ignorant thing to do

Well then be consistent and level the same criticism at Greg and the writer of Horizon who agreed and said similar things.

 

[Darryl M R]

The crux of my point has to do with your last sentence. I don't want to even debate the specifics it'll be a useless back and forth. My problem is, how can people jump from a man who they disagree with on some points, to 'not a good person'?

I just don't get it. I don't believe.... I mean what the hell is cultural appropriation? Someone dresses up as a Native American for Halloween, and people then cry about that. Is that really an issue? Honestly. Even if it exists, what a minuscule, completely insignificant issue.

And you are ready to label someone as 'not a good person'? That's insane to me. I just don't understand that. You disagree with a few things, and suddenly the other person is not a good human. That is incredibly harsh, and I've seen that same sentiment all over this thread.

I'm sorry I don't believe you actually believe Colin Moriarty is literally a bad human being for the things you've listed. I can't imagine what you think about people who have significant disagreements with your worldview and opinions.

https://powercoupleproductions.word...iarty-is-why-i-stopped-supporting-kindafunny/ Read up

And I find it curious that you don't understand the disrespect that comes from wearing someone's sacred attire (headdress) and painting your face as red or brown as a form of entertainment. Interesting. Ah yes, but it must be an insignificant issue. Decency always is.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Well then be consistent and level the same criticism at Greg and the writer of Horizon who agreed and said similar things.

Greg and GG's reactions aren't equal to Colin's

 

[dolce]

No one jumping down your throat. I suggested you read up on what you discuss beforehand. You can take my suggestion or continue to talk about things you do not know about only to backtrack afterward. Your former point does not stand especially knowing that Colin knew about the hashtag well beforehand and his actions clearly show a build up of trolling

I don't think telling someone when or when not to post is very productive. I still think it was a lighthearted joke either way. Even if he knew about it... whatever significance it may have.

 

[Cyclone]

The article isn't ridiculous. It lacks understanding of the game but the concern that Native American culture was being used as a setting to display primitive tribes is not a ridiculous thing to raise eyebrows.

Used as a setting to display primitive tribes. Well so what does Guerilla do if they want to come up with a setting to display primitive tribes? Should they have made up some homogenous culture instead of using the Native American culture? And am I as well a bad person for believe the article is in fact ridiculous?

 

[dolce]

Thanks, we were all waiting to learn your uninformed, unresearched judgment of the appropriateness of Colin's joke. Now that we have, we're better for it.

Thanks, Thumb.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

I just don't get it. I don't believe.... I mean what the hell is cultural appropriation? Someone dresses up as a Native American for Halloween, and people then cry about that. Is that really an issue? Honestly. Even if it exists, what a minuscule, completely insignificant issue.

That explains it

 

[LionPride]

The crux of my point has to do with your last sentence. I don't want to even debate the specifics it'll be a useless back and forth. My problem is, how can people jump from a man who they disagree with on some points, to 'not a good person'?

I just don't get it. I don't believe.... I mean what the hell is cultural appropriation? Someone dresses up as a Native American for Halloween, and people then cry about that. Is that really an issue? Honestly. Even if it exists, what a minuscule, completely insignificant issue.

And you are ready to label someone as 'not a good person'? That's insane to me. I just don't understand that. You disagree with a few things, and suddenly the other person is not a good human. That is incredibly harsh, and I've seen that same sentiment all over this thread.

I'm sorry I don't believe you actually believe Colin Moriarty is literally a bad human being for the things you've listed. I can't imagine what you think about people who have significant disagreements with your worldview and opinions.

Yo. Shut up. Honestly. If you actually care, educate yourself. If you just a troll, no one cares. Find something to do with your life.

 

[Darryl M R]

Used as a setting to display primitive tribes. Well so what does Guerilla do if they want to come up with a setting to display primitive tribes? Should they have made up some homogenous culture instead of using the Native American culture? And am I as well a bad person for believe the article is in fact ridiculous?

It looks like you have a hard time reading since I didn't say GG should have used a different setting. I explained how it could raise eyebrows. Nah you're probably a bad person because you would wear a Native American headdress as a costume. Go read that article I linked.

 

[Akainu]

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

Really didn't see that coming. It will be a really different dynamic without him. I'm sure the team will be fine but they will definitely lose a dimension.

"Dimension" is that what we're calling it now?

 

[Cyclone]

It looks like you have a hard time reading since I didn't say GG should have used a different setting. I explained how it could raise eyebrows. Nah you're probably a bad person because you would wear a Native American headdress as a costume. Go read that article I linked.

Well I'm saying if GG couldn't have used a Native American setting, then the implication is that they shouldn't use any setting from any peoples around the world during a primitive era. Correct? So what should they have done? Now art is being hindered. They'd have to come up with some alien culture and show them as primitive. Where is the line drawn?

And no I wouldn't wear a Native American headdress. And if someone wore something from my culture.... I wouldn't care. And I don't believe someone is a bad person because they wear a headdress.

But if you believe cultural appropriation exists, I don't think you're a bad person. But why not the other way? But again, I don't actually believe you hold that belief, it is that insane.

 

[Darryl M R]

Well I'm saying if GG couldn't have used a Native American setting, then the implication is that they shouldn't use any setting from any peoples around the world during a primitive era. Correct? So what should they have done? Now art is being hindered. They'd have to come up with some alien culture and show them as primitive. Where is the line drawn?

And no I wouldn't wear a Native American headdress. And if someone wore something from my culture.... I wouldn't care. And I don't believe someone is a bad person because they wear a headdress.

But if you believe cultural appropriation exists, I don't think you're a bad person. But why not the other way? But again, I don't actually believe you hold that belief, it is that insane.

What culture do you represent?

The tactic of providing a hypothetical question to refute an argument that I did not make is getting old. Read my earlier posts since we are not going to go back and forth if you are not reading my posts.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Words from mr. respect

The best part is the response of the guy he said all that bullshit to.

And, of course, Mr. "Open Dialogue/discourse" mysteriously disappeared after being called out on his shit.

 

[Cyclone]

What culture do you represent?

The tactic of providing a hypothetical question to refute an argument that I did not make is getting old.

Arabian culture. I'm curious to see where this goes.

EDIT: I'm saying there is an implication. You cannot separate 'they shouldn't have used Native culture to show primitive tribes' with 'what could they have used?'

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Well I'm saying if GG couldn't have used a Native American setting, then the implication is that they shouldn't use any setting from any peoples around the world during a primitive era. Correct? So what should they have done? Now art is being hindered. They'd have to come up with some alien culture and show them as primitive. Where is the line drawn?

And no I wouldn't wear a Native American headdress. And if someone wore something from my culture.... I wouldn't care. And I don't believe someone is a bad person because they wear a headdress.

But if you believe cultural appropriation exists, I don't think you're a bad person. But why not the other way? But again, I don't actually believe you hold that belief, it is that insane.

You realize you're framing belief in the concept of cultural appropriation as a detrimental quality right

The best part is the response of the guy he said all that bullshit to.

And, of course, Mr. "Open Dialogue/discourse" mysteriously disappeared after being called out on his shit.

Of course, someone actually had receipts

 

[Darryl M R]

Arabian culture. I'm curious to see where this goes.

EDIT: I'm saying there is an implication. You cannot separate 'they shouldn't have used Native culture to show primitive tribes' with 'what could they have used?'

It's important to know what exactly does your culture have that could be replicated as a costume. Especially seeing if there is any similarities. A sacred headdress isn't similar to a Keffiyeh. What would be the equivalent

It sounds like you also didn't read the article since the setting of tribes isn't just the issue but also the choice of words that have strong connotations with Native American. So outcome isn't binary of do or do not have tribal settings. It looks like throughout this conversation I am educating you more on the article. You should read it, and the link I posted.

 

[thumb]

Well I'm saying if GG couldn't have used a Native American setting, then the implication is that they shouldn't use any setting from any peoples around the world during a primitive era. Correct? So what should they have done? Now art is being hindered. They'd have to come up with some alien culture and show them as primitive. Where is the line drawn?

You don't get it. When you make art, you should probably be aware of the historical primacy of certain images. For example, are you writing a movie scene with a bunch of black people eating watermelon and chicken? What about a bunch of greedy Jewish people? After all, like any people, Jewish people are capable of being greedy, and black people are capable of liking watermelon and chicken. But the historical meaning behind those images carries the weight of a brutal past. And unless you're trying to make a racist statement, you have to navigate that portrayal carefully.

When it comes to dressing a white girl in what looks like a Native American costume, you have to understand that white people actually decimated the Native Americans. Brutally. Then took their land. And now, some white people think dressing up as cartoonish versions of Native Americans is super funny. Are you starting to see where I'm going?

So how do you do it? Well, how do you show the black people eating the watermelon? What about the greedy Jewish person? The answer is: fucking carefully. With deep thought and consideration. Potentially including talking to members of those groups.

 

[Cyclone]

It's important to know what exactly does your culture have that could be replicated as a costume. Especially seeing if there is any similarities. A sacred headdress isn't similar to a Keffiyeh. What would be the equivalent

It sounds like you also didn't read the article since the setting of tribes isn't just the issue but also the choice of words that have strong connotations with Native American.

You make a good point, but even if it was on the level of the headdress, I still wouldn't care. And if others do, good for them. But I wouldn't think they are bad people. There's a level of extremism on this thread. People disagree with Colin on some things and therefore he's a bad person. I just think that's such a huge jump between the two. People need to take a step back. I've spoken to people who claim they believe he is actually racist. There can be no middle ground with such people. I just think people need to calm down. If Colin's a bad human being our world is in pretty good shape.

 

[Cyclone]

When it comes to dressing a white girl in what looks like a Native American costume, you have to understand that white people actually decimated the Native Americans. Brutally. Then took their land. And now, some white people think dressing up as cartoonish versions of Native Americans is super funny. Are you starting to see where I'm going?

But in the context of Horizon, literally everybody wears that. Asians, Hispanics, Africans, etc. And as well, the story doesn't show Aloy just murdering natives. So why would it matter what the color of her skin is?

I don't think your argument works in the context of Horizon. And there's this vicious evil undertone with these types of arguments. Guerilla isn't plotting some white propaganda. Whose going to see that and think God knows what. They don't have ill intentions which also works against your argument. But we can agree to disagree.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Arabian culture. I'm curious to see where this goes.

EDIT: I'm saying there is an implication. You cannot separate 'they shouldn't have used Native culture to show primitive tribes' with 'what could they have used?'

"Primitive tribes" are not inherently native american, though. They actively chose that imagery and language

 

[Darryl M R]

Do you understand how the topic of the article started because people mentioned that Colin is disrespectful?

The article was ill informed on the game lore--no one denies that, but the thought that a Native American would find issue with Horizon's setting and use of specific words is not ridiculous (which both you and Colin claimed).

Colin did nothing more than mock the author and the article instead of voicing how he disagrees with the article but understand the point of view from the author.

This is the same Colin that tells others to have civil discussion and treat people with respect and empathy. He does none of that.

I don't want us to get off topic to talk about the merits of the article. We are talking about how Colin did nothing but trash someone for having a serious concern instead of corrected the misinformation of the author.

Colin has an issue of showing respect to others but he wants to make sure that he can be on his ivory tower to talk down on how others converse.

 

[sn00zer]

You don't get it. When you make art, you should probably be aware of the historical primacy of certain images. For example, are you writing a movie scene with a bunch of black people eating watermelon and chicken? What about a bunch of greedy Jewish people? After all, like any people, Jewish people are capable of being greedy, and black people are capable of liking watermelon and chicken. But the historical meaning behind those images carries the weight of a brutal past. And unless you're trying to make a racist statement, you have to navigate that portrayal carefully.

When it comes to dressing a white girl in what looks like a Native American costume, you have to understand that white people actually decimated the Native Americans. Brutally. Then took their land. And now, some white people think dressing up as cartoonish versions of Native Americans is super funny. Are you starting to see where I'm going?

So how do you do it? Well, how do you show the black people eating the watermelon? What about the greedy Jewish person? The answer is: fucking carefully. With deep thought and consideration. Potentially including talking to members of those groups.

I think they actually drew on Viking tradition for Aloys tribe specifically for this reason. I think more of the issue came from language nuance that would by and large be missed by people.

 

[thumb]

But in the context of Horizon, literally everybody wears that. Asians, Hispanics, Africans, etc. And as well, the story doesn't show Aloy just murdering natives. So why would it matter what the color of her skin is?

Okay, but now you're at least engaging with some of the content of the critique, vs. dismissing the very idea of its existence. That's fine. I don't agree with every argument the author of the Horizon critique made either. But there are prominent marketing images of just Aloy, alone, looking like a white girl in a Native American costume in the wilderness. Do you understand why those images might make people a tad uncomfortable? I'm not saying they should ban these images, I'm not saying they're some terrible affront to all that is good, I'm asking: can you at least empathize?

I don't think your argument works in the context of Horizon. And there's this vicious evil undertone with these types of arguments. Guerilla isn't plotting some white propaganda. Whose going to see that and think God knows what. They don't have ill intentions which also works against your argument. But we can agree to disagree.

Did you read the critique? It is far from vicious. It's calm, reasoned, and clear. I don't agree with every point, but it does not fly off the handle or claim Guerilla is a white propaganda outfit.

 

[APF]

but even if it was on the level of the headdress, I still wouldn't care. And if others do, good for them. But I wouldn't think they are bad people.

Isn't that kind of beside the point however? You wouldn't think someone is bad for caring about something you don't. Ok, but... so what really? It seems like you're not really arguing anything substantial. Whether or not you find something good or bad, or a person good or bad, has no bearing on whether someone else finds something bad or good, or a person bad or good. Sometimes, believing in something--or not believing--makes you kind of a shitty person in people's minds. And sure, people might have disagreements on that. If for example you believe in genocide, IMO you're kind of a shitty person. And if you don't believe genocides have happened, IMO you're kind of a shitty person. But if you disagree, that in itself is not an argument that I'm somehow a part of "outrage culture" and being ridiculous. You have to actually make that point with actual evidence outside of just stating it (it's called begging the question). In order to make a successful argument, you have to actually argue in good faith and understand the position you're debating against--not merely assert based on personal attributes (that's called ad hominem) or saying we should "meet in the middle" (that's another non-argument, called the argument to moderation).

 

[Cyclone]

"Primitive tribes" are not inherently native american, though. They actively chose that imagery and language

They chose it as opposed to what?! If it was an African tribe you would have said the same thing. So now you guys are literally limiting art, in that GG should have chosen - completely altering their vision for their game - an ethnic group of people not associated with primitive tribes. Then, and then only would criticism be voided.

They chose it, and there's no problem it. You can indeed set a story during a primitive Native American time. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[blame space]

"notaxation"

 

[nitekrawlwer]

They chose it as opposed to what?! If it was an African tribe you would have said the same thing. So now you guys are literally limiting art, in that GG should have chosen - completely altering their vision for their game - an ethnic group of people not associated with primitive tribes. Then, and then only would criticism be voided.

They chose it, and there's no problem it. You can indeed set a story during a primitive Native American time. There is nothing wrong with that.

There is no problem except for you creating straw men. GG has made the game they want to make. People can voice their criticism of art without calling for the art not to be made or displayed. Which is what has happened here.

One article criticizing their choices does not mean art has been censored. Nor do many for that matter.

 

[Cyclone]

There is no problem except for you creating straw men. GG has made the game they want to make. People can voice their criticism of art without calling for the art not to be made or displayed. Which is what has happened here.

One article criticizing their choices does not mean art has been censored. Nor do many for that matter.

I agree with you in principle but not in this specific case. I don't believe it's even valid criticism and I do believe there is a call for art to be censored here specifically about the tribal point. But again coming back to Colin, because we have different opinions doesn't make either of us bad people. But honestly I don't expect this forum to care about that.

 

[ScientificPizza]

They chose it as opposed to what?! If it was an African tribe you would have said the same thing. So now you guys are literally limiting art, in that GG should have chosen - completely altering their vision for their game - an ethnic group of people not associated with primitive tribes. Then, and then only would criticism be voided.

They chose it, and there's no problem it. You can indeed set a story during a primitive Native American time. There is nothing wrong with that.

Why does it need to be based on anything? Why do you associate primitive tribes with POC?

It's fiction, they could have done anything. Or if they chose to use Native American imagery or language they could have coupled that with Native American representation

The game is not set in a primitive Native American time. It's about robots.

No one is limiting art. Criticism is not censorship.

 

[LowRoller]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

Where?

 

[hwy_61]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

Oh shit really?

 

[LowRoller]

Where?

Joe confirmed it on his live podcast with jim norton

 

[10k]

How could Colin ever handle an audience alone? He rarely even goes to Kindafunny events now because his anxiety is so bad. How in the hell can he possibly do anything bigger than KindaFunny?

Sedatives and/or antidepressants.

 

[Raonak]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

Wow, that's a pretty huge opportunity.

 

[hwy_61]

Joe confirmed it on his live podcast with jim norton

Good shit. Can't wait to listen.

 

[Noks415]

Joe Rogan said Colin is coming on the show. Crazy

 

[nitekrawlwer]

I agree with you in principle but not in this specific case. I don't believe it's even valid criticism and I do believe there is a call for art to be censored here specifically about the tribal point. But again coming back to Colin, because we have different opinions doesn't make either of us bad people. But honestly I don't expect this forum to care about that.

Even if you don't believe it's valid that doesn't mean it's stifling art as you have claimed. Just cause you believe there is a call for art to be censored it doesn't mean it's true. I would love a link to confirm your feelings here.

Depends upon the opinion. They are not all equally valid and some of them stink.

 

[Jacce]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

Joe Rogan is an alt-righter. Of course Colin is going on yet another right wing podcast/show.

 

[Abelard]

Joe Rogan is an alt-righter. Of course Colin is going on yet another right wing podcast/show.

Okay how is Joe an alt-righter? I've heard this nonsense for the nth time and it only sounds more ridiculous every time I hear it.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Just read that he's going to be on the joe rogan podcast. Good for him.

I should have taken bets on this

 

[Audioboxer]

Mildly interested as Rogan is longform and Colin on his own will get asked a lot of questions. A lot of political questions. So if anyone is going to want an A-Z of Colin this will probably be that "interview".