FalsettoVibe
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We need about a month to see true Switch sales.
You can't say something is a fact just because it supports your bias view.
The same way ethomaz can't assume that Switch doesn't have stock issues.
#alternativefacts61k for Swtich doesn't look like stock issues... let't see if next week it drops a lot.
You can't say something is a fact just because it supports your bias view.
The same way ethomaz can't assume that Switch doesn't have stock issues.
Why? How could you tell either way?
It's been virtually impossible to find a Switch in Japan, it is absolutely stock issues.
??? Stock issues are based on sell through and availability, not absolute sales.
It's out of stock. That's a fact.
Explain to me how something out of stock or with stock issues sells 61k in one week?Lololol. Because yes...
It sold 330k last week... that means they shipped 350k.There was a 95% sell through last week, the chances it wasn't stock issues is extremely slim to non-existent/
How 62k gamers bought it last week?Nobody can buy Switch in Japan ( including my friend ). How is that not a fact? You are the one who look bias dude.
Yes it was sold out in its first week as reported by the trackers.
But the trackers have not reported a sell through percentage this week so no one can say it's a fact Switch sold through all stock.
Is it likely? Yes.
Is ethomaz likely wrong? Yes.
Is it a fact? No
It's very simple.
61k for Swtich doesn't look like stock issues... let't see if next week it drops a lot.
So japanGaf is Switch really sold out? Otherwise that'd be bad
But if we assume they sold out completely this week, it seems they shipped 30K new units the past week. If next week's shipment will be even smaller, then we should be looking at sub 30K sales right? On the other hand, if the stock isn't exhausted yet, then odds are the system is tanking in Japan and it won't maintain that baseline either, right?Shipment for Switch will be even lower next week but if Nintendo can maintain a steady flow of 40-50k until stock situation normalises it will be more than enough. It shouldn't take more than a few weeks. Golden Week and MK8 are the next test. Things should be normal by then.
You are very reaching here.If the first sell through is about 95%, and the following week the number dropped to the proximate number of the unsold units, how is it not a fact that it have been sold out? You're arguing semantics here, and a very unnecessary one that is.
Explain to me how something out of stock or with stock issues sells 61k in one week?
It sold 330k last week... that means they shipped 350k.
It sold 62k this week... that means they shipped over 392k (peharps 400).
There are only two options:
a) The 95% sell through is wrong and they shipped 400k with ~82% sell-throught.
b) They shipped more 50k.
In both case you can say it wasn't sold out these two first week or have strong stock issues... it sold 62k.
Now next week we will see if stock issues are really happening.
How 62k gamers bought it last week?
Indeed. I am arguing semantics because the poster used the word "fact". If he had used a different word I wouldn't bother posting.
How 62k gamers bought it last week?
It can sell 62k and still have stock issues if there were more than 62k people looking to buy it. In that case it is supply-constrained.Explain to me how something out of stock or with stock issues sells 61k in one week?
It sold 330k last week... that means they shipped 350k.
It sold 62k this week... that means they shipped over 392k (peharps 400).
There are only two options:
a) The 95% sell through is wrong and they shipped 400k with ~82% sell-throught.
b) They shipped more 50k or even more.
In both case you can say it wasn't sold out these two first week or have strong stock issues... it sold 62k.
Now next week we will see if stock issues are really happening there.
How 62k gamers bought it last week?
Let's if that is true next week... for now there is no way to say it is a fact.None of your logic makes any sense. It sold out what was shipped last week so it is still having stock issues. It sold through the remaining stock left from its first week of sales and then it sold through the vast majority of its second shipment as far as we can tell because reports are that it is still sold out in the country.
That makes no sense.The previous week numbers of Switch wasn't for the whole week, but rather 3 days. There's a whole 9 days of sales from the last report to this one rather than 7. It's quite possible there's sizeable chunk of leftover being sold in the following 4th day when it was not tracked in the previous week number.
It can sell 62k and still have stock issues if there were more than 62k people looking to buy it. In that case it is supply-constrained.
Let's if that is true next week... for now there is no way to say it is a fact.
Its sold out.That looks like a big drop for Switch.
Let's if that is true next week... for now there is no way to say it is a fact.
I really don't care a lot to be wrong... it is fine.Yes there is. I will wait eagerly for sell through numbers later this week to prove you oh so wrong.
That looks like a big drop for Switch.
Nobody can buy Switch in Japan ( including my friend ). How is that not a fact? You are the one who look bias dude.
Let's if that is true next week... for now there is no way to say it is a fact.
I'm saying that both posters have made definitive statements without data to back them up.
That's not bias.
I have data. Degenki report about the sell-through for FW or the multiple reports from stores. Just stop now.
Yes there is. I will wait eagerly for sell through numbers later this week to prove you oh so wrong.
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| | PlayStation 3 | PlayStation 4 | Difference |
| | (2006/11/11) | (2014/02/22) | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD | PS4 - PS3 |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 158| 38.498|3.825.217| 43.489|4.444.931| 619.714|
| 159| 34.752|3.859.969| 37.807|4.482.738| 622.769|
| 160| 46.558|3.906.527| 35.300|4.518.038| 611.511|
| 161| 57.782|3.964.309| | | |
| 162| 75.086|4.039.395| | | |
| 163| 237.086|4.276.481| | | |
| 164| 110.519|4.387.000| | | |
| 165| 114.367|4.501.367| | | |
| 166| 61.591|4.562.958| | | |
| 167| 35.156|4.598.114| | | |
| 168| 26.966|4.625.080| | | |
| 169| 34.431|4.659.511| | | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
Is Zelda and Switch sold out? Quite harsh drops.
Though then again I do not know how big franchise Zelda is in Japan but I expected lot more.
Its called realistic expectations... They shipped a considerable amount of Switches and looks like the product beat that expectation, and that's really good.Of course there's a shortage, no doubt.
It's Nintendo after all they still don't understand how logistics works, in XXI century.
But... there are physical reports of stock issues...You can't say something is a fact just because it supports your bias view.
The same way ethomaz can't assume that Switch doesn't have stock issues.
Let's if that is true next week... for now there is no way to say it is a fact.
That makes no sense.
The 95% is for the 3 first days report... everything sold in 4th day and going is this week report and it didn't count in the 95% report... like I said there are two options here:
a) They shipped more than 350k (95% is wrong).
b) They shipped additional this week (> 50k).
In any case lets see how it shows next week.
Its called realistic expectations... They shipped a considerable amount of Switches and looks like the product beat that expectation, and that's really good.
Pre-order sales have also begun across the globe. We have heard that many retailers have already closed pre-orders and have allocated remaining inventory for sale on launch day. This pre-order momentum is reassuring proof that the core gamer demographic understands the uniqueness of the Nintendo Switch and continues to support us.
http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/31/nintendo-still-aims-to-ship-2-million-switch-consoles-by-march/
Is this some kind of joke?! Were you taught some alternate form of logic?!Explain to me how something out of stock or with stock issues sells 61k in one week?
It sold 330k last week... that means they shipped 350k.
It sold 62k this week... that means they shipped over 392k (peharps 400).
There are only two options:
a) The 95% sell through is wrong and they shipped 400k with ~82% sell-throught.
b) They shipped more 50k or even more.
In both case you can say it wasn't sold out these two first week or have strong stock issues... it sold 62k.
Now next week we will see if stock issues are really happening there.
How 62k gamers bought it last week?
Explain to me how something out of stock or with stock issues sells 61k in one week?
It sold 330k last week... that means they shipped 350k.
It sold 62k this week... that means they shipped over 392k (peharps 400).
There are only two options:
a) The 95% sell through is wrong and they shipped 400k with ~82% sell-throught.
b) They shipped more 50k or even more.
In both case you can say it wasn't sold out these two first week or have strong stock issues... it sold 62k.
Now next week we will see if stock issues are really happening there.
How 62k gamers bought it last week?
He's spreading his alternate maths in plenty threads. It's nothing new.Is this some kind of joke?! Were you taught some alternate form of logic?!
Wait do you believe that launch month units can be magically increased a mere 6 weeks before release just "based on preorders"?No, it's called incompetence.
^ that was in January, one month before launch
b) They shipped additional this week (> 50k).
I really don't care a lot to be wrong... it is fine.
Reading him in Amd threads is entertainingHe's spreading his alternate maths in plenty threads. It's nothing new.
Wait do you believe that launch month units can be magically increased a mere 6 weeks before release just "based on preorders"?
And you're talking about incompetence?
I just lol'd! I added an exclamation mark to my post so I came across as less facetious but fuck man!I've typed up a few responses to this post that would probably get me banned, so I'll just leave it be. Your reasoning is just baffling.
Then you're just cluelessYep. And there's no "magic".