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[Tecl0n]

A Iokless episode, is a good episode.

Wow, McGillis watched too much Gundam SEED I think. Directly charging to an enemy's main fleet without any sort of backup is nuts. This isn't Seed, McGillis isn't Kira, and Bael isn't Strike Freedom.

He ain't no jesus, that's fo sure.

 

[Ken]

i kinda wanted to save this ep for next week and watch it all end together but i had to witness the power of agnika kaeru

 

[casiopao]

Did people forget about bulletproof vests after nanolaminate technology?

Wut.O_O U no see the power of Bulletproof Mask?^^

 

[formasymphonic]

I'm surprised shun hasn't commented, he's normally the first so I suspect he's keeping silent because he has info he isn't allowed to share.

Spoiler

#HalfLifeSeason 3 confirmed

 

[vareon]

Wut.O_O U no see the power of Bulletproof Mask?^^

The lesson here is to never shoot Genji in the face.

 

[casiopao]

The lesson here is to never shoot Genji in the face.

This makes me remember of Char's Anti Rapier Mask lol.^^

 

[Menthuss]

Wow, McGillis watched too much Gundam SEED I think. Directly charging to an enemy's main fleet without any sort of backup is nuts. This isn't Seed, McGillis isn't Kira, and Bael isn't Strike Freedom.

He was doing really well though. I mean, he had a whole fleet of battleships and mobile suits firing at him and I'm pretty sure he didn't get hit even once until Gaelio showed up (and even then he had to use Trans-Ein to be able to just barely beat him).

 

[Defuser]

You could say Hush got Hush'ed. Fucking Chump.

It's amazing to see so far Gjallarhorn characters suffered the least casualties while alot of characters from Tekkadan/Mcgillis bite the dust.

Rustal has got to die by next week...or at least kill Iok that motherfucker.

Wow, McGillis watched too much Gundam SEED I think. Directly charging to an enemy's main fleet without any sort of backup is nuts. This isn't Seed, McGillis isn't Kira, and Bael isn't Strike Freedom.

Man where was Rustal when Jesus Kira was dominating? He probably could beat Kira with all the shady dealings.

 

[Pbae]

Wut.O_O U no see the power of Bulletproof Mask?^^

Touché

 

[jgminto]

The only reason I have a feeling he will shoot Rustal is not so much that he is "betraying" Rustal but rather that he reevaluates what he has done, what decisions he has made, and realizes that he worked with Rustal for nothing. He never believed in Rustal's ideals or whatever, he was just on the side that was convenient for him to fight McLoser. With that gone, what is left for him? He sure as fuck isn't going to go fight Mika or Tekkadan or anything. It means nothing to him. The thing that MIGHT mean something to him, is the chance to reform Gallyhorny. It's something he always agreed with McHoldthatL with. They just had different understandings of what that meant.

I feel like Gaelio has seen enough evidence of the futility of trying to change an organisation as rotten to its core as Gjallahorn to know that killing one man isn't going to change anything, there are just more corrupt, power hungry warmongers waiting to fight for their chance at the top.

 

[Rymuth]

You could say Hush got Hush'ed. Fucking Chump..

I was going to say 'Hush got silenced' but figured it's too soon

 

[Principate]

You could say Hush got Hush'ed. Fucking Chump.

It's amazing to see so far Gjallarhorn characters suffered the least casualties while alot of characters from Tekkadan/Mcgillis bite the dust.

Rustal has got to die by next week...or at least kill Iok that motherfucker.


Man where was Rustal when Jesus Kira was dominating? He probably could beat Kira with all the shady dealings.

That's because Gjallarhorn litterally have MC plot armour. Neither gaelio, Julietta or lok should alive

 

[vareon]

You could say Hush got Hush'ed. Fucking Chump.

It's amazing to see so far Gjallarhorn characters suffered the least casualties while alot of characters from Tekkadan/Mcgillis bite the dust.

Rustal has got to die by next week...or at least kill Iok that motherfucker.

Do anyone alive have motivation to kill Rustal now anyway? Gaelio seems to be the one that will leave Gjallarhorn forever rather than killing Rustal. McGillis is dead. Tekkadan sure ain't doing shit when they're trying to escape.

 

[casiopao]

That's because Gjallarhorn litterally have MC plot armour. Neither gaelio, Julietta or lok should alive

Lol. Tekkadan in S1 literally in the last episode had super plot Armour lol. Lafter, Azee and Shino survive with Tomato Ketchup.^^

 

[RangerBAD]

From the exchange at the end, I think it's quite obvious that Gaelio did everything under Rustal for a change at revenge. His perspective was that McDumbass betrayed their friendship, used everyone, never respected or valued the bonds they had, and was power hungry. So he was willing to sacrifice all his own integrity to have a shot at facing him one on one to beat him at his own game and get an answer out of him. But in the end he realized that McMoron was actually honest and sincere about his dreams, even if they were totally nonsensical, and that he forced himself to push his friends away because it was so important to him. Knowing that, I don't see why Gaelio would work under Rustal or continue this charade anymore, because it goes against his own beliefs as well.

I think this will likely happen. Either way Rustal has to die. He's a relic and representation of what's wrong with Gjallarhorn.

Episode can be summed up with a meme:

Notice me, senpai.

Fareed was literally afraid of happiness. Happiness meant complacency to him.

 

[ZeroCypher]

From the exchange at the end, I think it's quite obvious that Gaelio did everything under Rustal for a change at revenge. His perspective was that McDumbass betrayed their friendship, used everyone, never respected or valued the bonds they had, and was power hungry. So he was willing to sacrifice all his own integrity to have a shot at facing him one on one to beat him at his own game and get an answer out of him. But in the end he realized that McMoron was actually honest and sincere about his dreams, even if they were totally nonsensical, and that he forced himself to push his friends away because it was so important to him. Knowing that, I don't see why Gaelio would work under Rustal or continue this charade anymore, because it goes against his own beliefs as well.

So hopefully we get a Gaelio killing Rustal? No one else is in space to finish him off. Juliette and Iok are on Mars. Mika's final fight is with Juliette? Seems unsatisfying and unworthy.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

I haven't been in here for a while. Does everyone still hate Mika? I've always viewed him as a product of his environment. Driven to see Orga's vision fulfilled and that's about it. Sure he seemed to kill without hesitation, but who wouldn't after all of the shit he's been through?

 

[casiopao]

Oh yeah. Anyone know the OST playing when Gali is fighting Choco there? I can't find the name.T_T

I haven't been in here for a while. Does everyone still hate Mika? I've always viewed him as a product of his environment. Driven to see Orga's vision fulfilled and that's about it. Sure he seemed to kill without hesitation, but who wouldn't after all of the shit he's been through?

There is people hating on Mika? i thought Mika is becoming greater now as he is bringing a baby to the Gundam bleak world lol.^^

 

[Defuser]

When was the last time in a Gundam show, a few characters actually dies to a gun instead to a Mobile suit? I think IBO has the highest count of them when compared to other gundam shows.

 

[Principate]

Lol. Tekkadan in S1 literally in the last episode had super plot Armour lol. Lafter, Azee and Shino survive with Tomato Ketchup.^^

Aside from Azee they still died in the end and Gaelio not dying counteracts that. Lok litteral survives stabbings chest area routinely

 

[KZXcellent]

To me that final conversation between Gaelio and McGillis planted the seed. Gaelio's gonna kill Rustal. After all of this I don't see him getting out of this unscathed.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I hate how Rustal always gets this one liners by himself

speaking about justice and stuff like some glorious narrator when he himself is scum of the earth

 

[Lautaro]

McGillis was a disappointment for me. I guess its my fault for hoping to see a new Griffith in him: I really wanted him to have a real plan, be behind the attack by making a deal with Nobliss or something and then proceed to manipulate a broken Mikasuki... that's a problem when you have the habit of making wild speculations, you get hyped over something that only exists in your head haha.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

YES.T_T



You mean Mika's Child right?^^ Mika is not going to survive, i am going to bet on this. Hell, he might even fall to Julietta lol to show to the world that AV is just some overrated techs and doing a full circle where AV is not regarded as super tech anymore like S1.^^

And we will get Gaelio who when returned greeted with the news of Almiria being pregnant with Choco baby lol.^^



Why? For What? Doing this not only ruin Gaelio future, he would also end up dead lol.^^

Without no orga, theres no reason for mika to die. He needs to carry out the destroy gjharralhorn legacy.

 

[Hellwarden]

I genuinely can't think of a recent anime that is ending as poorly for the protagonists as Gundam IBO is.Straight up, I think most of the cast is gonna die next week and the status quo continues.

The end.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Oh and Galio finally got to kill someone

 

[Rynocirator]

McGillis and Gali Gali's final encounter gave me Code Geass vibes.

 

[Principate]

McGillis was a disappointment for me. I guess its my fault for hoping to see a new Griffith in him: I really wanted him to have a real plan, be behind the attack by making a deal with Nobliss or something and then proceed to manipulate a broken Mikasuki... that's a problem when you have the habit of making wild speculations, you get hyped over something that only exists in your head haha.

I don't get how he was supposed to manipulate Mikazuki. Mikazuki was manipulating Orga half the time which was why he could proceed after his death without skipping a beat. The guy knew Orga inside out and was Orga's main driving force.

 

[KZXcellent]

McGillis and Gali Gali's final encounter gave me Code Geass vibes.

Yeah right when McGillis tried to bring his hand to Gali's face. Also bullet-blocking helmets.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

I genuinely can't think of a recent anime that is ending as poorly for the protagonists as Gundam IBO is.Straight up, I think most of the cast is gonna die next week and the status quo continues.

The end.

Really? Everyone except for the seven on the front lines should survive. I dont think rustal and co have the means to destroy escape tunnels

 

[duckroll]

By the way, I have to give it to the show for opening the episode with the "revelation" that Orga's death wasn't some conspiracy or some ace move by any of the main players in the story. Instead it was literally a random backstab by one of many interested parties who thought it would give them some extra leverage since everyone want Tekkadan dead. That really hammers home the message of the story. It's not about granbd conspiracies, big plans, or wheels within wheels. It's about how if you stir too many hornets' nests, you're gonna be fucked in the end. Orga literally died for no reason other than because their profile was too high and too many people stood to gain from seeing them fall.

 

[RangerBAD]

By the way, I have to give it to the show for opening the episode with the "revelation" that Orga's death wasn't some conspiracy or some ace move by any of the main players in the story. Instead it was literally a random backstab by one of many interested parties who thought it would give them some extra leverage since everyone want Tekkadan dead. That really hammers home the message of the story. It's not about granbd conspiracies, big plans, or wheels within wheels. It's about how if you stir too many hornets' nests, you're gonna be fucked in the end. Orga literally died for no reason other than because their profile was too high and too many people stood to gain from seeing them fall.

I expect to see Nobliss with a bullet hole in his head, but maybe not. It might be a way to reinforce the reality, but if Rustal dies then there's no reason to expect Nobliss to remain alive.

 

[Principate]

I expect to see Nobliss with a bullet hole in his head, but maybe not. It might be a way to reinforce the reality, but if Rustal dies then there's no reason to expect Nobliss to remain alive.

I don't see how Nobliss dies outside of a major timeskip. I mean whose going kill him and how dudes hardly out in the open for an assassination attempt.

 

[shintoki]

I expect to see Nobliss with a bullet hole in his head, but maybe not. It might be a way to reinforce the reality, but if Rustal dies then there's no reason to expect Nobliss to remain alive.

McMurdo going to be taking revenge.

Rustal is dead, Gaelio is killing him next episode.

Mika has to die too. RIP bae

 

[Sonicbug]

I don't think Gaelio is killing Rustal. He might set him up for war crimes though, but the guy has done a lot for Gaelio and Julieta and Gaelio isn't about burning his bridges.

I'm more curious about what's going to go down with the Mika/Julieta duel.

 

[RangerBAD]

McMurdo going to be taking revenge.

Rustal is dead, Gaelio is killing him next episode.

Mika has to die too. RIP bae

Yeah, I talked about McMurdo in another post. He has the connections to find out who did it.

 

[duckroll]

I don't think Gaelio is killing Rustal. He might set him up for war crimes though, but the guy has done a lot for Gaelio and Julieta and Gaelio isn't about burning his bridges.

I'm more curious about what's going to go down with the Mika/Julieta duel.

I don't see how there's going to be much of a duel. I mean, she's just not that good.

 

[MechaX]

I am personally curious on what would have happened if Orga had actually continued to work with McGillis.

True, they had some causalities for sure, but McGillis had pretty much nothing to offer Orga and inspired no confidence when he was like "lol we're still going to fight Rustal's fleet." I wonder if things could have been different if McGillis was like "yeah, it looks bad, but we managed to lure Rustal all the way out to Mars and this might be are one last chance of getting him while he's feeling himself." It's.... dire as all hell, but it offers something to work from.

I mean, the fact that McGillis was able to get so close to Rustal this episode at all is amazing in of itself; but if you added even just Mika into the mix (which I guess might have been McGillis's intent on trying to poach him)?

 

[ThatChairMan]

I'm fine with Hush's overall character arc of starting a bitch, being ultimately useless, and then dying without accomplishing anything, but it just feels like all a waste of time that could have been better spent on pre-existing Tekkadan characters.

 

[Shouta]

I hope Gaelio shoots Rustal next episode so pretty much all of the big shots get killed. If he does it, then the series can end with Gaelio being lauded as the big hero for stopping the traitor and cleansing Gjallarhorn of its corruption. It'd be a heroic ending from the viewpoint of everyone that lost out in the conflict.

 

[Tecl0n]

I hope Gaelio shoots Rustal next episode so pretty much all of the big shots get killed. If he does it, then the series can end with Gaelio being lauded as the big hero for stopping the traitor and cleansing Gjallarhorn of its corruption. It'd be a heroic ending from the viewpoint of everyone that lost out in the conflict.

It'll be Iok who'll be lauded. Cause fortune favours the bold asshole.

 

[Principate]

I don't see how there's going to be much of a duel. I mean, she's just not that good.

Basically only prime Gaelio (with Ein) had the chops for a climatic final duel with Mika and he really has no reason to do so and is nowhere near currently. Doesn't make a lick of sense for Julietta who just came out from near fatal injuries to be equal to or better than Mika. If he's going down it would be attriction against the entire force. It wouldn't be much of a duel. I mean I know the antagonists have some insane plot armours but it would be a bit much.

 

[Jarmel]

Knowing Mari Okada's style, I would say it's most likely how it was always planned out. He is introduced as a potential new ace pilot who can train under Mika and show that a normal person with enough determination can become like someone he looks up to. Even though everything we know about the science and psychology of why Mika is such a good pilot indicates that it will never be the case, he was encouraged into the position. In the end it amounted to nothing, but he got satisfaction out of giving it a shot, and having tried his best. Instead of being just another manual labor support staff, he got to pilot a mobile suit. He died because he isn't very good at it and the work is dangerous. Not every life has to have some perfect meaning or purpose, because in reality people live and die. Some try and succeed, some just fail because they were never meant for great things.

That's a complete waste of a limited runtime.

 

[Principate]

That's a complete waste of a limited runtime.

Whose going to be carrying Mika around then?

 

[Paltheos]

I genuinely can't think of a recent anime that is ending as poorly for the protagonists as Gundam IBO is.Straight up, I think most of the cast is gonna die next week and the status quo continues.

The end.

Things are better though. Since Kudelia's proposed changes have gone through, life for the people of Mars has improved (I mean, we don't see much of this, but we are told this and I think it's fair to be taken at face value).

The lesson IBO as a whole teaches is simple: Change is possible with political and actual force (S1) but not brute force alone (S2). I'm sure there's more you can say than that, but that's the point at its simplest.

 

[ThatChairMan]

Whose going to be carrying Mika around then?

A wheelchair.

 

[Principate]

A wheelchair.

You think they had the time to expressely ship those? He'd still need a handler so that doesn't actually answer the question.

 

[duckroll]

That's a complete waste of a limited runtime.

One could say that same about most human lives.

 

[Taruranto]

Oh fuck off with stupid shit. She's like 8.

Also Galigali sounded like Chocoman's ex girlfriend.

That's a complete waste of a limited runtime.

Agreed, especially when so many old characters got shafted.

 

[TatteredHat]

Well the way this story is playing out is in pretty stark contrast compared to how most Gundam series climax.

I wouldn't say that makes for a better viewing though, in my eyes they tipped the scales too far in the other direction.