It is a weak overseas number for 60+ markets. However, there are also remaining markets. Mainly France, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Japan, and China. I think that China is the only one of those that will make much of a difference. I don't see the remaining European territories performing much better than those that have the film. Japan doesn't care about American adaptations.
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It is a weak overseas number for 60+ markets. However, there are also remaining markets. Mainly France, Italy, Spain, South Korea, Japan, and China. I think that China is the only one of those that will make much of a difference. I don't see the remaining European territories performing much better than those that have the film. Japan doesn't care about American adaptations.
That's going to be a HUGE writedown for the studio.
Ban Puncher
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Harmony Gold has got you covered on that.
Agree with all this.
Only thing I'd add is that I doubt the Whitewashing controversy made much of a dent at all. To the people I know who don't know GiTS it just seems to be 'that sci-fi thing with Johansson I'll probably catch at home'.
Think the 'no solid hook' comment nails it
ElBoxyBrown
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It didn't do terrible. If Hollywood is expecting Marvel money out of these adaptions than that's on them. I'm just pointing out a better example on how to make these movies than what GitS did.
WB certainly spent comic book film money making Edge of Tomorrow.
ElBoxyBrown
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They got Tom Cruise so they thought maybe at the time he was gonna be a major draw. I also don't remember the movie having any good trailers.
Edge of Tomorrow, while not a big success, is a great example on how to adapt a manga for the western masses. Just westernize the shit out of it, and keep it relatively grounded. Murican Ghost in the Shell just looked too fucking out there, much more visually outrageous and over the top even than the anime it's based on. Where they trying to prove something to themselves? I'm not sure people respond well to something that looks too weird from the outset.
The Matrix is another good, probably even better example. You could make the case it's an adaptation of an anime that never existed. Hell, it outright lifts several visual cues and thematic ideas from Ghost in the Shell. But it keeps its action to a relatively normal-looking, low-key New York facade of a city, and the more sci-fi elements are considerably more palatable than the weird shit in GitS.
Then again, aside from being too weird-looking, GitS is also just too crappy.
If anything she can fall back to a tried and true rom-com playing second fiddle to the latest generic white dude Hollywood is trying to make happen!
The Matrix is another good, probably even better example. You could make the case it's an adaptation of an anime that never existed. Hell, it outright lifts several visual cues and thematic ideas from Ghost in the Shell. But it keeps its action to a relatively normal-looking, low-key New York facade of a city, and the more sci-fi elements are considerably more palatable than the weird shit in GitS.
Then again, aside from being too weird-looking, GitS is also just too crappy.
If anything she can fall back to a tried and true rom-com playing second fiddle to the latest generic white dude Hollywood is trying to make happen!
Bobby Roberts
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I think it made a dent, but probably nowhere near as big as "This just kinda looks like Matrix & Blade Runner, but with Scarlett Johansson, I guess?" being the end result of all that marketing.
I do think that controversy made at least a bigger dent than "It's an anime adaptation," which might as well be a flicked penny at sidewalk for all the impact it makes. It seems to speak more to the notion that "normal" people look down on those who enjoy anime/manga, which feels to me like an older, outdated insecurity still being clung to, one that's been fairly diluted by the increasing number of people (both consumers & creators) who have watched/read that stuff without really paying too much mind to that stigma, such as it is.
They should get Tom Cruise and ScarJo for Evangelion movie.
lightskintwin
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Oh ok.
I mean GITS atleast looked very competently made with a big star as a lead. Given her success with Lucy in a very similar role, I bet the producers and studio thought this was a slam dunk.
ElBoxyBrown
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Honestly, they were really trying and they nailed some parts but that twist completely destroys everything they built.
I was never convinced Scarlett Johansson was bankable. I think Lucy will just go down as one of those outlier question marks.
Obliterator
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Yeah, Ill be honest I'm surprised by this opening as well, strictly because of Lucy. To be honest those trailers were just as weird as any GiTS had, and also wasn't super highly reviewed either. But for some reason that film clicked with audiences that GiTS didn't. I certainly thought it was going to open better just based off of what we saw out of Lucy.
Lights and Waves
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I want a power rangers sequel so badly. I hope China + merchandising is enough to green light one.
ElBoxyBrown
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Did not know it was a novel first.
They'd make it PG-13.
I don't see how Joe America becomes interested in the intensely weird shit that is AoT.
soundscream
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I see a bunch of people with this opinion, but I think Akira would translate much better to film than Robotech( unless you cut out all the pop star silliness) or GITS. I mean the story can be hard to digest but if they focus on Tetsuo and Kanedas relastionship and try to dumb down what Akira is, I think it could be more palatable.
lightskintwin
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I think a live action Attack on Titan would look incredibly silly without massive changes made to it, and the amount of money it would take to make it even look right wouldnt be worth it due to it not being able to recoup it's expenses.
It's not really that much weirder than any other zombie story.
Damn, I gave this movie some low ass expectations, and it couldn't even eclipse that. Lower opening weekend than Total Recall?
Poor GRIMES
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It made $114M ww in its 3rd weekend and is $120M away from $1B and you think it'll fail to get there???
The average Zombie isn't 10-15 meters big and the movie isn't set in Steampunk Middle Ages*
*I am aware of the recent developments
You'll get your sequel. I think when all is said and dont' it'll do over $100m. The cast definitely deserve another movie in this. The cast plus dialogue wasn't an issue. Hell imo the movie wasn't an issue.
Sequel imo just needs more fighting. Both in the suits and out and just build on the chemistry the cast already had. Based on the ending, a certain character will no doubt be the main draw for a sequel.
As far as merch goes. Who knows. But I know me and some others on this board are already diving into getting some of the older stuff. Zords and figures.
Anime adaptions can be popular if done right. Fullmetal Alchemist, if properly done, is one that I think would be big.
Miles Quaritch
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A nude suit scene that lasts maybe a minute or watch Under the Skin in the comfort of your own home...
Razgriz-Specter
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China and Japan, 2 that could definitely help it.
DizzyCaffeine
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Is the T2 expansion collapsing? That's a weak per screen average for so few screens. I guess it's market was always overseas.
lightskintwin
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Yep, you were on point. But I get why producers and the studio miscalculated given those numbers Lucy, an original sci-fi with a female bad ass lead, put up. Shit, I started believing the ScarJo hype and thought she could become our anime savior. LOL
People turning into Titans isn't what would deter an adaptation from being successful.
What would guarantee it being a bomb is having Titans that look like this:
They would have to go with the fleshy/skinless Titans being the norm.
Lucy had an interesting premise that people found intriguing, and the previews showed ScarJo having some incredible mind-bending powers. I think it benefited from being a really well-timed release as well.
GitS had a premise that couldn't really be conveyed in any interesting way. "What if Scarlett Johansen was like, a robot or something? And she can shoot people?" Releasing in the wake of Beauty and the Beast was a mistake.
GitS had a premise that couldn't really be conveyed in any interesting way. "What if Scarlett Johansen was like, a robot or something? And she can shoot people?" Releasing in the wake of Beauty and the Beast was a mistake.
Fancyarcher
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Well, that's a pathetic number for GITS. So much for the idea of Johansson being a box office draw, but I'm not surprised, box office draws are few and far between these days.
Also RIP Power Rangers film series! Oh well!
Also RIP Power Rangers film series! Oh well!
Except these zombies are giant, naked, and look like they were dropped on the head when they were children.
Another bad drop next week takes $100M domestic off the table for Power Rangers. All of these March action films are going to take huge screen losses in two weeks, while the family films are mostly spared.
EDIT: Power Rangers needs better drops thsn John Wick 2 going forward to hit $100M domestic. JW2 had pretty good drops in its third and fourth weekend. And made $16.2M in its second weekend.
cartographer
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Adapting anime can be successful. Adapting anime at $100+ million budgets is risky because those sorts of budgets (and the marketing on top of them) are risky for most projects. The major exceptions are established theatrical franchises, and even those aren't necessarily evergreen.
But studios want blockbusters and franchises, so they don't look at things to adapt that don't fit that mold in their head.
But studios want blockbusters and franchises, so they don't look at things to adapt that don't fit that mold in their head.
Yep. It's not some huge booming ip. They could have done it right, with the right cast, and a lower budget, taking more risks.
Pisses me off because I'm sure they will have the marvelcomics take home from this, and do no introspection.
Hero_of_the_Day
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How would it NOT make a billion at this point?
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