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The Fate of the Furious / Fast and Furious 8 *SPOILER THREAD*

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So the last scene BBQ apparently Rock and Vin weren't really there together. Stunt double for Vin as he was facing city skyline. If so LOL.
The Rock is gone from this series
 
If the beef is real and we have to choose who stays between Vin Diesel and The Rock, I'll side with The Rock any day of the week. Turning the series into Rock/Statham buddy cop action would be amazing.

They mentioned Hobbs' sister in passing in this one (his daughter was staying with her while he was locked up), so that could be an interesting route to explore, too. No way The Rock's sister isn't also a huge badass.
 
I loved this movie way too much. It's amazing :p

My only real gripe is that it doesn't really explain why Cypher needed Dom. I guess it makes getting the EMP easier, but he doesn't really do anything particularly meaningful for her after that and just ultimately ends up mucking up her whole plan. It would have worked if they played her up as being more sadistic, but it doesn't really gel with her "brutally pragmatic" schtick.
 

Dishwalla

Banned
I loved this movie way too much. It's amazing :p

My only real gripe is that it doesn't really explain why Cypher needed Dom. I guess it makes getting the EMP easier, but he doesn't really do anything particularly meaningful for her after that and just ultimately ends up mucking up her whole plan. It would have worked if they played her up as being more sadistic, but it doesn't really gel with her "brutally pragmatic" schtick.

I think she was mainly using him so that he wouldn't get in the way of her plans again, at the same time with Dom working for her he got in the way of Dom's crew messing up her plans.
 
I think she was mainly using him so that he wouldn't get in the way of her plans again, at the same time with Dom working for her he got in the way of Dom's crew messing up her plans.

Wouldn't it make more sense then to lock him in the cell on the plane? Or, hell, just send him the photos of them with the warning of "Stay out of this OR ELSE." Anything but giving him access to your secret hideout, telling him your plans, and then sending him back into the field.

It'd make more sense if it was some sort of "impossible mission" that only Dom could do, but he doesn't really do a whole lot.
 
There's absolutely no way Charlize's plan wouldn't end with Dom coming for her. Hell, Dom even says so in the movie with that line about having your foot on the tiger's neck. It's like a really elaborate way to commit suicide-by-Dom. I mean, what else did she think was going to happen, she'd kill the mother of his child and then they'd just go their separate ways?

You can't even make the excuse that she doesn't know what he's capable of, since they retconned her into being the real mastermind behind the last two movies :p
 

Dishwalla

Banned
Wouldn't it make more sense then to lock him in the cell on the plane? Or, hell, just send him the photos of them with the warning of "Stay out of this OR ELSE." Anything but giving him access to your secret hideout, telling him your plans, and then sending him back into the field.

It'd make more sense if it was some sort of "impossible mission" that only Dom could do, but he doesn't really do a whole lot.

If she isolated Dom or neutralized him in some other way(i.e. just flat out killed him) she still would have had to worry about the crew coming after, it would happen eventually. Instead she blindsided the crew by using Dom against them, with a benefit of Dom knowing how his crew thinks.
 
Still don't know how Dom planned the meeting and got his boys to help him out when Charlize is stalking his every move.

Glad to see the Shaws on the plane scene.
That was highlight of film as well as jail scenes


Did you... Watch the movie? They literally explained how he was able to set up the meeting with the mom... With cypher worrying about getting a camera view but Dom had all that covered
 

hamchan

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Did you... Watch the movie? They literally explained how he was able to set up the meeting with the mom... With cypher worrying about getting a camera view but Dom had all that covered

I think it's more like, how did he even contact Helen Mirren to organize that exact meeting point, and how did he even contact Rico and Tego and that guy from the start of the film to act as cover, when he's under 24/7 surveillance in Charlize Theron's plane.
 

Zen Aku

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Personally I enjoyed it quite a bit. The action were definitely top notch, I hope Statham and Luke Evans come back. Statham is as charismatic as the Rock and Evans is just a badass with a scowl worthy of the late Paul Walker.

Seeing the two Hispanic guys again was funny, I love them in Fast Five. Still bickering with one another lol. They have to resurrect Han somehow, that's probably the only way I see the Shaw brothers and the Family working together at least on a professional level.

Charlize Theron played some Bond level villain with her speeches and demeanor. I didn't expect that from a an action series about cars and explosion. But she did an excellent job, I'm glad she survived and surely coming back with a vengeance.

They did a really good job with the whole heel turn by Dom and it was really emotionally packed. Not as much as 7, but that's because you of Paul', death. I have to say though, man this series, it's definitely not the same without Paul Walker. I fucking miss his competitiveness and playfulness that is completely in contrast to Dom's tough guy, grim face demeanor. You really feel like something is missing throughout the whole movie, and make you keep thinking, what the hell would Brian be doing if he was still here.

They made the movie worked though despite that. It's not the best in the series, definitely not the worst. It's a great continuation. Hell, I'll keep riding with this family till the final movie. Can't wait for the next one.

Fast and Furious in Space.

P.s. was I the only one who got really excited when Luke Evans showed up? That was a nice secret they kept under wraps. I hope he'll come back. I want to see more of him and Statham on screen together. We need some brotherly rivalry back in this series.
 
Saw this last night. Might be F&F4 tier tbh.

- Everything about Hobbs and the Shaw family outside of cars was 100x more fun than the core crew or the big vehicle action scenes.

- Them being buddy buddy with Deckard Shaw at the end is straight up ridiculous, I don't care what the producers and writers have in store for a potential Han comeback. This not being brought up in THIS movie is incredibly dumb.

- Roman and Tej were corny in this one aside from "11 my ass."

- Nathalie Emmanuel is a nothing character. At least Scott Eastwood was a dunce for most of the movie. She is nothing but an impossibly gorgeous keyboard masher.

- Speaking of, the hacking part of these movies is just blehhhhhhhhh. They really overused it this time out.

- Not enough cast interaction. I know this was an accelerated dumb 80s action movie plot, but it didn't work for me. The base scenes did not compare to 5 or 6, and there's little to nothing beyond that aside from yelling bad one liners at each other. The camaraderie is dying.

- The set pieces are beyond absurd now which makes everything weightless. The NYC chase was just dumb. World War Z style zombie hoard cars? Nah fam. Baby Driver will blow this movie away in terms of car stunts with 500 less vehicles and no CG. Get outta my face with this stuff.



Wasn't into this one much. The Rock and Statham spin off sounds like heaven now. They have more legitimacy and charisma in their roles than anyone else in the movie. Bring Kurt Russell along too since he's just hamming it up.
 

Kinyou

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I really expected Statham to reveal that Han was still alive or something like that on the rooftop, but I guess he got invited to dinner anyway.
 
So Giselle dies fighting Owen Shaw's goons, but now Owen's our buddy. Han is straight up murdered by Deckard, but now Deckard gets to join the team. Poor old Elena gets killed and has her baby raised by some chick she never met who came back from the dead and stole her boyfriend.

Fast 9 needs to be about all the innocent people Dom has wronged over the years climbing out of Hell and giving him his comeuppance. Charlize can hack into Hell to break them all out, and they can drive around in cool Hell cars or something.
 

ArtHands

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So Giselle dies fighting Owen Shaw's goons, but now Owen's our buddy. Han is straight up murdered by Deckard, but now Deckard gets to join the team. Poor old Elena gets killed and has her baby raised by some chick she never met who came back from the dead and stole her boyfriend.

Fast 9 needs to be about all the innocent people Dom has wronged over the years climbing out of Hell and giving him his comeuppance. Charlize can hack into Hell to break them all out, and they can drive around in cool Hell cars or something.

Its like dragon ball where evil villains returned as part of the good guy team. Piccolo, Vegeta, 17/18 etc.

whatever happened to Carter Verone from 2Fast2Furious anyway? The writer dropped hint that he's going to return but he's probably the only villain who didn't make even a cameo reappearance.
 

Dishwalla

Banned
The only person on the current crew Carter Verone would have beef with is Roman, since Brian is out of the picture now. He wasn't even aware of Tej. Not sure how he would fit in.
 
The only person on the current crew Carter Verone would have beef with is Roman, since Brian is out of the picture now. He wasn't even aware of Tej. Not sure how he would fit in.
If they bring back Carter this could be a way to kill off Brian so the crew won't have to mention his absence.
 
Since when is Ludacris/Taj a hacker?!?
I thought he was a tech?

But he is some kind of mechanic/weapon vehicle specialist/
It was definitely redundant having him and Natalie failing at hacking twice.

And I agree the Tyrese Gibson forced humour was horrible this film.

Thank goodness for Jason and The Rock though

Since the time he was hacking banks deposits with his phone in Fast 6 ?

I think it's more like, how did he even contact Helen Mirren to organize that exact meeting point, and how did he even contact Rico and Tego and that guy from the start of the film to act as cover, when he's under 24/7 surveillance in Charlize Theron's plane.

DOM used the cubans by proxy ..classic 70' spy movie trick
 

So you're telling me there's a chance...

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Kinyou

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If they bring back Carter this could be a way to kill off Brian so the crew won't have to mention his absents.
It probably would have been for the best if they had just said that he died between movies. That they wouldn't want to involve him in chasing a submarine is fine, but that they then didn't invite him and Mia to meet Dom's son doesn't make much sense.

I want to marry Cipher. Fly me around the world in your murder jet, boo.
Not forget about her nerd crew. Bet they come for free.
 
20 minutes into rewatching Furious 7, Statham has already murdered like twenty British soldiers in a Royal Army hospital, tried to blow up The Rock and Elena, killed Han. and blown up Dom's house while he, Ma, Brian and their kid were right outside.

Oh, but he's such a good guy, though. Real class act.
 

JohnDrake

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20 minutes into rewatching Furious 7, Statham has already murdered like twenty British soldiers in a Royal Army hospital, tried to blow up The Rock and Elena, killed Han. and blown up Dom's house while he, Ma, Brian and their kid were right outside.

Oh, but he's such a good guy, though. Real class act.

Hey, he did it all for his little brother. It is totally understandable and easy to forgive :p #Family
 
20 minutes into rewatching Furious 7, Statham has already murdered like twenty British soldiers in a Royal Army hospital, tried to blow up The Rock and Elena, killed Han. and blown up Dom's house while he, Ma, Brian and their kid were right outside.

Oh, but he's such a good guy, though. Real class act.

What we didn't know was that the hospital was being controlled by Cipher the whole time, obviously.
 

kai3345

Banned
The way they played that moment perfectly straight in Furious 7 was amazing. Sean's hairline recedes a full inch between two shots. He goes from highschooler to:

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the best moment of furious 7 imo. i couldn't keep myself from cackling in the theater the first time I saw it
 

Jeffrey

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It's kind of weird that this 'team' seems to regularly save the world all the time now according to the dialogue with hobb?

Like in the past films they had personal motivations and I guess financial too. Don't get why they all came back to do the emp thing lol. Is uncle Sam paying them well?
 
20 minutes into rewatching Furious 7, Statham has already murdered like twenty British soldiers in a Royal Army hospital, tried to blow up The Rock and Elena, killed Han. and blown up Dom's house while he, Ma, Brian and their kid were right outside.

Oh, but he's such a good guy, though. Real class act.
Writing and logic in these movies is six feet under.
 

Brakke

Banned
20 minutes into rewatching Furious 7, Statham has already murdered like twenty British soldiers in a Royal Army hospital, tried to blow up The Rock and Elena, killed Han. and blown up Dom's house while he, Ma, Brian and their kid were right outside.

Oh, but he's such a good guy, though. Real class act.

Don murdered like forty Brazilian cops in 5 tho. And he flipped The Rock's truck. Brian used a teamster as a meat shield in 7. The movies already demand you let collateral / mayhem deaths of faceless people slide.

It's whack, for sure, but it's mostly internally consistent. I do think the Shaw face turn is a stretch but "doing it for family" is pretty much carte blanche in the series.
 

Renpatsu

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Not to attribute too much thought to it, but it's interesting that Fast and the Furious is one of the few action movie franchises that allows their antagonists a redemption. Obviously it is only when it's creatively convenient and they do the bare minimum of writing to support it, but nonetheless it makes the franchise quasi-progressive in that regard even if unintentional.

That said I hope Theron remains a villain though, in spite of her alluding to holding governments accountable for their transgressions even that seems like a stretch. Not everyone needs to become a part of the 'family'.
 
Don murdered like forty Brazilian cops in 5 tho. And he flipped The Rock's truck. Brian used a teamster as a meat shield in 7. The movies already demand you let collateral / mayhem deaths of faceless people slide.

It's whack, for sure, but it's mostly internally consistent. I do think the Shaw face turn is a stretch but "doing it for family" is pretty much carte blanche in the series.

Fast Five actually goes out of its way to specify that all of the cops chasing Dom and Brian at the end are corrupt. Which is dumb because even clean cops would be chasing them but the movie was at least making a tiny, token effort to justify it.
 
Fast Five actually goes out of its way to specify that all of the cops chasing Dom and Brian at the end are corrupt. Which is dumb because even clean cops would be chasing them but the movie was at least making a tiny, token effort to justify it.

Yeah that ranks up there with "the entire sections of the city were completely empty and evacuated" fuckery from BvS.
 

M.D

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Sean: If you get the guy who did this to Han, what are you going to do?
Dominic : Words ain't even been invented yet.

Yeah Dom, no words can describe your betrayal of Han and Gisele!

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Glad to hear other people are equally perplexed about Jason Statham now being seemingly welcomed into the family despite killing Han at the end of Fast 6. I like Jason Statham's character, I really do, but that shit kept bugging me throughout all of this one. And even if they reveal that Han is still alive in the next one, it'll still seem shitty that Vin and The Rock became so chummy with him in this one. They should have had Shaw give Vin his baby back, Vin shake his hand, but then whisper something like, "I haven't forgotten what you've done. But as thanks for saving my kid I'm going to give you a head start before I come after you," or something. I dunno.

And yeah, I like Ramsey well enough but unless she learns how to drive or kick ass I don't know that I necessarily want her staying around and necessitating more hacking elements going forward. The hacking was one of the weakest parts of this film and is so boring to watch.

And I was so fucking bummed when Charlize got away. She's not an interesting or compelling enough villain to warrant bringing back in a future entry. I wish they'd just captured or killed her, so we could move on.
 

Speevy

Banned
Sean: If you get the guy who did this to Han, what are you going to do?
Dominic : Words ain't even been invented yet.

Brian would know what to do.

Hi Brian, how's family beach? Great, listen. You know that guy who almost blew up your baby last year? Can he join the family? Okay, knew you'd understand.

Btw I named my baby Brian because you're totally not dead. Catch you later.
 

norm9

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Sean: If you get the guy who did this to Han, what are you going to do?
Dominic : Words ain't even been invented yet.

Yeah Dom, no words can describe your betrayal of Han and Gisele!

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Maybe it's the long con like he did with cypher. A long con which stretches the length of two movies and everybody but Deckard is in on it.
 
Saw this last friday and had a blast. Didn't know how they were gonna top 7 but they pulled it off. Jason Statham stole the show for me for sure so i'm glad that he has joined la familia.

People clapped and cheered when Dom said "his name is Brian."
 

Mrbob

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Statham saved this movie for me. He was so good and glad he had such a big focus. Brooding, moping Dom didn't do it for me. There were too many contrived scenes like trying to explain why Brian wasn't there out how Dom's baby mama gets knocked off.

Give me the Rock Statham spin off movie now.
People clapped and cheered when Dom said "his name is Brian."

Yeah same here but it was so telegraphed as the obvious choice.
 
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