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Anime Mafia |OT| My Little Scum can't be this cute! ()

Kevyt

Member
I'm afraid it is generally considered inappropriate during mafia games. May I point you towards Rule #29, found here?



If you have issues with a player, please try to solve them in an appropriate manner in the game or ask us mods to mediate. You may also develop a grudge against them and carry it over to other games, until people believe it is a joke even though you really, really, really hate that player and your hatred consumes you until you spend every minute of your life plotting against them.

Ah yes, I remember now. Well okay... :X

Seems fair.
 

roytheone

Member
I'm afraid it is generally considered inappropriate during mafia games. May I point you towards Rule #29, found here?



If you have issues with a player, please try to solve them in an appropriate manner in the game or ask us mods to mediate. You may also develop a grudge against them and carry it over to other games, until people believe it is a joke even though you really, really, really hate that player and your hatred consumes you until you spend every minute of your life plotting against them.

Nah, never happens! Never!
 
I mean the real answer as to why anyone would vote for you is writ large across the past 3 day phases. If you're town you have played to throw the game, kinda like dusk.

Uh, how, exactly

People have been asking me and I have been giving honest opinions. If you want to be a negative fucking Nancy, then fine. That's your business. But don't be fucking rude about it. You can do that shit alone, don't drag me into your cesspool of "fuck you guys, you're all stupid"
 

squidyj

Member
Uh, how, exactly

People have been asking me and I have been giving honest opinions. If you want to be a negative fucking Nancy, then fine. That's your business. But don't be fucking rude about it. You can do that shit alone, don't drag me into your cesspool of "fuck you guys, you're all stupid"

how? you persisted in believing a fake cop claim after he flipped vigi that's how.
 
how? you persisted in believing a fake cop claim after he flipped vigi that's how.

Yeah and I've explained my shit multiple times and I stand by it

If you don't like it then that's cool, I don't really give a fuck. I'm playing the game and I'm not gonna be put off by your shit attitude.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Chill out guys. Squidy has hardly been overly aggressive...he's just been Mr. policy lynch this game. If that's his shtick so be it.
 
The only two I'm sus of left are Dragonz and Polt.

Maybe I don't like the look of Cabot but they have more to do with his avatar than anything he's said. Gorillaz is overrated.

Otherwise I'm clueless. Like the owl.
 
DAY 5 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

oreomunsta (2)
TheExodu5 2283
BlackBuzzard 2339

WhereAreMahDragonz (2)
squidyj 2317 2386
Cewyn 2370 2394
squidyj 2386
30yearsofhurt 2388

Swamped (1)
cabot 2244

cabot (1)
Cewyn 2232 2257
Swamped 2242 2343
WhereAreMahDragonz 2250

Cewyn (0): squidyj 2236 2284

Kawl_USC (0): squidyj 2284 2317

30yearsofhurt (0): Cewyn 2281 2370

No active vote for Day 5: Cewyn (has previously voted), flatearthpandas, Kawl_USC, oreomunsta, Poltergust, rac, Swamped (has previously voted), ultron87

Day 5 Postcount: 30yearsofhurt 6, BlackBuzzard 11, cabot 36, Cewyn 18, flatearthpandas 6, Kawl_USC 10, oreomunsta 13, Poltergust 14, rac 4, squidyj 14, Swamped 18, TheExodu5 7, ultron87 2, WhereAreMahDragonz 19


Day 5 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

8 votes for majority
 

roytheone

Member
Hey, it's that talking owl.
Am I supposed to be ignoring him?


Awe, don't ruffle his feathers. He's a hoot


I think it is okay to ignore Roy, if you want.


Otherwise I'm clueless. Like the owl.


no lies detected.
:p


(I will leave now, please continue the murdering)
 

Swamped

Banned
Will be at a desktop this afternoon so expect more reads then. Just wanted to add that Dragonz is probably telling the truth. She alluded to being a "senpai" before, and there are many senpais in Host Club. Her most recent posts feel like town to me.

I'd like to know: who here does *not* scum read Ultron?

My own opinion is that i lean very slightly town on him. I do think it's a town PR, and the flavor makes sense with the role (this isn't a big deal though). But i also feel he has been on the sidelines of most of the important discussions, although I'll be giving him a reread this afternoon as well.
 

cabot

Member
I'd like to know: who here does *not* scum read Ultron?

My own opinion is that i lean very slightly town on him. I do think it's a town PR, and the flavor makes sense with the role (this isn't a big deal though). But i also feel he has been on the sidelines of most of the important discussions, although I'll be giving him a reread this afternoon as well.

Here's what he said about his voting power after death:

One thing I know after asking via PM is that my dead vote will count towards majority for early day end purposes, but it won't appear in in-thread vote counts. And I can change it via PM as much as I want during the day.

We're nearing end-game now, and this is a thing. This is an incredibly dangerous power.

I still struggle to accept this being a game mechanic, because it's hiding information about a mechanical system like voting. It's not the same as other parts of the game, a very recent example was Cewyn bluffing about a double vote and Bear instantly calling that out as a lie. This doesn't feel in tune with how I expect the rules of the game.


But hey, we lynch him he still gets to use it right?

He gets his power, and I get really annoyed with Bear if it works as advertised, because we have one vote we can't track at all in a crucial point in the game.
 

cabot

Member
Also ultron has the ability to contribute to the outcome of the game without actually contributing content to the game, which is frankly crap.
 
Part 2

08. [m] Bowlie - GMT-3 --> [m] flatearthpandas Solid read list hasn't really said too much could have to do with being a day 2 sub-Slight town

11. [m] ultron87 - EST Has been too silent since role claiming on Day 1.-Slight scum

12. [m] cabot - GMT+1 Has been poking and giving reads list since day, only thing that makes me read him as scum is that they haven't NK'd him yet 1.-Town

15. [m] Cewyn - EST Still a bit of an enigma to me one of the more quiet early day players now starting to contribute more -Null

16. [m] BlackBuzzard - CET ME!

18. [m] squidyj - MST Aggressive player just seems straight forward havent really caught anything that stands out -town

PART 3 will probably be tonight.
 

ultron87

Member
Also ultron has the ability to contribute to the outcome of the game without actually contributing content to the game, which is frankly crap.
Sorry, but that's how it works.

Look, I fully admit I'm not playing the best that I could be. You shouldn't kill me for that.

We should get rid of Squidy. The Dusk sideshow distracted us all from the fact that he's been going after people for reasons that are specious at best, and he was the still living player that was at risk during the Monkey bandwagon from nowhere.

Vote: squidyj
 

cabot

Member
Sorry, but that's how it works.

Look, I fully admit I'm not playing the best that I could be. You shouldn't kill me for that.

We should get rid of Squidy. The Dusk sideshow distracted us all from the fact that he's been going after people for reasons that are specious at best, and he was the still living player that was at risk during the Monkey bandwagon from nowhere.

Vote: squidyj

Interesting choice, but anyway.

My play was to catch out 30, who I suspect was neutral.

I asked him what his reads were of oreo and ultron, the two people who claimed they were harem'd.

give me your reads on ultron and oreo

He gave me a useless response:

Oreo is a type of overrated biscuit.

I then asked him to vote ultron with me, who admittedly I scumread, but this was about the harem'd target.

Hey, 30.

Lynch ultron with me.

VOTE: ultron87

He gives me more of a response than when he did when I directly asked him for a read.

Okay. 25 words or less why? I still think Dragonz is the 'scummier'* bet.





*less sincere town act.

I respond with my reason:

Oh so you do have a read on him.


He's done nothing to contribute to scumhunting and I have a problem with his claim and how it works.


Whats yours?

He doesn't respond to me, but when BB makes a joke about him choosing his next harem target, he responds:

He is way too busy thinking what waifu to recruit tonight.

Yes, I was playing Persoma 5. I'm on NG+. I think I'll romance them all.

I've given him a few more hours to respond to me directly, but nothing.


I am 85% sure 30 is our neutral harem maker.


The question is, what do we do with him?


Personally, I'm not much for Exo's plan of 'lets make him win and eliminate my scumreads' because, well, we fucking had Dusk pull that shit and it was a nightmare.

UNVOTE

thoughts?
 
Interesting choice, but anyway.

My play was to catch out 30, who I suspect was neutral.

I asked him what his reads were of oreo and ultron, the two people who claimed they were harem'd.



He gave me a useless response:



I then asked him to vote ultron with me, who admittedly I scumread, but this was about the harem'd target.



He gives me more of a response than when he did when I directly asked him for a read.



I respond with my reason:



He doesn't respond to me, but when BB makes a joke about him choosing his next harem target, he responds:





I've given him a few more hours to respond to me directly, but nothing.


I am 85% sure 30 is our neutral harem maker.


The question is, what do we do with him?


Personally, I'm not much for Exo's plan of 'lets make him win and eliminate my scumreads' because, well, we fucking had Dusk pull that shit and it was a nightmare.

UNVOTE

thoughts?

I think he gave it away on day 1 where he said there is probably a harem mechanic he was the first to even bring this up.
 

cabot

Member
I think he gave it away on day 1 where he said there is probably a harem mechanic he was the first to even bring this up.

Yeah, i saw that post, and thought the same. Being like any solid investigator though, I wanted more evidence.


I think today has favoured the theory he is neutral more than anything else.
 
To back that up, 30 has never voted for the people who claimed they were in a harem, and he kept his No Lynch vote to the end of the day on Day 1.

The longer the game goes on, the likelier he would be able to find enough people to satisfy his win condition.
 

cabot

Member
Sorry, but that's how it works.

Look, I fully admit I'm not playing the best that I could be. You shouldn't kill me for that.

We should get rid of Squidy. The Dusk sideshow distracted us all from the fact that he's been going after people for reasons that are specious at best, and he was the still living player that was at risk during the Monkey bandwagon from nowhere.

Vote: squidyj

do you scumread squidy more than Dragonz?
 
You guys are making a convincing argument for 30 being the harem king, to which he hasn't properly addressed

The question is, though, if his role is Town or neutral. We've lost a lot of town people, so getting rid of another isn't in our best interests, but then again, he's got Ultron and me tied up and possibly ready to go at the end of day :<
 
Actually, this is really interesting. Let's assume ultron is telling the truth about his role. That would mean that this is a harem of females. That means that whoever is creating it failed on two nights, either due to finding males or because his target died.

Something I've noticed is that almost every townsperson who has died so far is female, the only exception so far being Palmer. I dunno if it is just luck, but this indicates to me that the vast majority of townspeople are indeed female.

Which means that, if the harem maker knows who he targeted and failed (yet that person is still alive), that can be very valuable information to the town. If the majority of townspeople are female, why couldn't the majority of scum be male?

The problem here is extracting that information. If we can properly target the harem maker and force him to cough up info in exchange for keeping him alive, we could learn a lot.
 
Yeah, i saw that post, and thought the same. Being like any solid investigator though, I wanted more evidence.


I think today has favoured the theory he is neutral more than anything else.

Yeah well we are not getting much out of him atm. He has generally seemed uninterested in what's going on in town only coming into vote and make sure he has enough posts.
 
Polter, interesting take on the harem mechanic and what that could imply for the whole game.

As much as I'd love to hop on to your conclusion that "female heavily implies town", I'm not quite sure that that information is there. If there's a rough 50/50 split on genders in the game, then this outcome that we're experiencing falls within probability
 
You guys are making a convincing argument for 30 being the harem king, to which he hasn't properly addressed

The question is, though, if his role is Town or neutral. We've lost a lot of town people, so getting rid of another isn't in our best interests, but then again, he's got Ultron and me tied up and possibly ready to go at the end of day :<

There is no way a role like this is town
 
Polter, interesting take on the harem mechanic and what that could imply for the whole game.

As much as I'd love to hop on to your conclusion that "female heavily implies town", I'm not quite sure that that information is there. If there's a rough 50/50 split on genders in the game, then this outcome that we're experiencing falls within probability

Technically, any possible outcome falls into any probability.

But I'm going to use math here to calculate the chance of our 8 dead townspeople having a distribution of 6 females and 1 male (gonna ignore SkyOdin since he's a special case).

We have 2^7, or 128, possibilities for gender distributions. Out of those, only 7 possibilities would fall into that distribution of 6 female/1 male:

Male, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Male, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Female, Male, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Female, Female, Male, Female, Female, Female <-- What we got, by the way.
Female, Female, Female, Female, Male, Female, Female
Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Male, Female
Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Male

A 7/128 chance translates to 5.46%. If the distribution among town members really is 50/50, that's the percentage we got.

So it makes no logical sense to assume that there really is a 50/50 distribution, especially considering the small player base.
 

cabot

Member
Technically, any possible outcome falls into any probability.

But I'm going to use math here to calculate the chance of our 8 dead townspeople having a distribution of 6 females and 1 male (gonna ignore SkyOdin since he's a special case).

We have 2^7, or 128, possibilities for gender distributions. Out of those, only 7 possibilities would fall into that distribution of 6 female/1 male:

Male, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Male, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Female, Male, Female, Female, Female, Female
Female, Female, Female, Male, Female, Female, Female <-- What we got, by the way.
Female, Female, Female, Female, Male, Female, Female
Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Male, Female
Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Female, Male

A 7/128 chance translates to 5.46%. If the distribution among town members really is 50/50, that's the percentage we got.

So it makes no logical sense to assume that there really is a 50/50 distribution, especially considering the small player base.


too much maths, please stop.
 
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