Nothing is more 1970s sci-fi dystopia than Germany no longer trusting America because of science-hating Nazis.
I never said it was a win, but it's not a good idea to pretend like everything's peachy in the EU countries.
It's impossible to say what could happen in the next four years. I'm not going to pretend like things can't go to shit as long as they're gaining votes.
He, did. VVD lost 8 PVV gained 5. PVDA was decimated both parties are pro euro.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂No more free candy therefore no longer reliable partners.
So the people on the street are the one who decide that?Is Germany a reliable ally?
He is complicit by saying Trump effectively committed to Art. 5 during his speech (which he didn't).I wonder what McMaster thinks when he reads what Merkel said here.
He, did. VVD lost 8 PVV gained 5. PVDA was decimated both parties are pro euro.
Mike Drucker‏ @MikeDrucker 38m38 minutes ago
The real stories of the 2017 election is that Wilders failed to translate polling momentum into results and the collapse of Labour. VVD's losses primarily benefitted CDA and Labour's losses primarily benefited GL and D66. I'm really sorry you support Geert Wilders, but you supporting him doesn't mean he's not a giant loser.
So the people on the street are the one who decide that?
GAF teaches me something new every day.
Good news for you: The people on the street wont vote on if germany will defend other NATO members.The dumbasses on the street decided on Brexit. Some people have been tainted by the brexit lens.
Alternatively, just because the US government acts like dumbasses on the street, it doesn't mean other nations do.
Coming to theatres this summer...
Five Days in Quebec.
Corbyn has some decent ideas, his europe policy is the same disaster as May though.
Let's see what the Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman thinks about Trumps trip:
https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/status/868833347254067201
Is Germany a reliable ally?
This says it all, lol.
Germany is not at all reliable where Russia is concerned either.
Are you aware of the fact, that the Bundeswehr is stationed as the first line of defence if Russia would attack europe?This says it all, lol.
Germany is not at all reliable where Russia is concerned either. They're too reliant on Russian gas.
This says it all, lol.
Germany has a significant history still within the last 100 years of not being a reliable partner for places like France, the UK, and the US, so despite the realignment after WWII, it's not like Germany has been a bedrock for ages upon ages....
its really baffeling, how people dont seem to understand simple graphs.
As the other poster said, we had about the perfect conditions for these parties to seize power, and they majorly didn't.
And now we all get to see the effects of that kind of foolishness in Brexit and it's consequences, while me and many other Germans are still waiting on those bad effects the local refugees supposedly bring.
Is Germany a reliable ally?
It's spelt baffling, and it shows attitudes in Germany pretty well.
Politicians mirror those attitudes.
This says it all, lol.
Germany is not at all reliable where Russia is concerned either. They're too reliant on Russian gas.
I wonder why germany has a different view on millitary action as most countrys 🤔 I cant remember anything...It's spelt baffling, and it shows attitudes in Germany pretty well.
Talking shit and then correcting spelling, incredible.
Politicians are aware of the fact that they're obligated to respond to Article 5, since they're obligated to. No matter how much Germans dislike war after their history of wars.
Where does Germany get their natural gas in the immediate term in that scenario?
And where does that leave politicians the next election, given public attitudes?
So much hot fire 🔥 🔥 🔥If winning the election means getting the most votes, PVV did not win the election.
If winning the election means getting the most seats, PVV did not win the election.
If winning the election means being part of the subsequent government, PVV will not have won the election.
If winning the election means doing well compared to polls, PVV is perhaps the biggest loser of the election.
If winning the election means gaining seats, then GL and D66 won the election and CDA also beat PVV.
Overall about 1/3rd of the seats in the Dutch house are held by Euroskeptic parties and the remaining by pro-EU parties.
The real stories of the 2017 election is that Wilders failed to translate polling momentum into results and the collapse of Labour. VVD's losses primarily benefitted CDA and Labour's losses primarily benefited GL and D66. I'm really sorry you support Geert Wilders, but you supporting him doesn't mean he's not a giant loser.
Are you aware of the fact, that the Bundeswehr is stationed as the first line of defence if Russia would attack europe?
They are pretty cool with the Bundeswehr beeing around. I can link the 1 hour radio report to you, but I dont see a real reason since you most likely dont have the german skills to understand it.1. eastern europe might have something to say about that, unless they don't count anymore for geostrategical calculations
2. I'm sure the russian army is quaking in its boots at the undermanned and underequpied german "army" in the event of an invasion. Realistically, in a UK&US-less scenario Russia is fearing French nukes and long supply lines being disrupted by a hostile populace due to potential occupation of eastern europe not German soldiers.
He is complicit by saying Trump effectively committed to Art. 5 during his speech (which he didn't).
Is baffling how one could fail to understand that Merkel's speech addresses exactly this internal mentality of Germany about war. That's why this speech exists. That's why Germany approach slowly changed in the past years. The public will follow if the issue is well explained and makes sense for them.
Everyone in administration is saying that Trump said USA stand by Article 5 by just showing up.
1. eastern europe might have something to say about that, unless they don't count anymore for geostrategical calculations
2. I'm sure the russian army is quaking in its boots at the undermanned and underequpied german "army" in the event of an invasion. Realistically, in a UK&US-less scenario Russia is fearing French nukes and long supply lines being disrupted by a hostile populace due to potential occupation of eastern europe not German soldiers.
Regardless, this entire conversation is rather absurd anyways because Russia isn't going to invade Europe. They have neither the resources nor the manpower to launch a successful invasion without destroying themselves in the process. This isn't the cold war and russia is not the soviet union. All Putin wants is disruption between the western alliance so he has a better geostrategical hand to play, and with the US out of the picture he has a much better hand to play against the fractious EU.
The myths of the Russian army are still alive on GAF I see.
If winning the election means getting the most votes, PVV did not win the election.
If winning the election means getting the most seats, PVV did not win the election.
If winning the election means being part of the subsequent government, PVV will not have won the election.
If winning the election means doing well compared to polls, PVV is perhaps the biggest loser of the election.
If winning the election means gaining seats, then GL and D66 won the election and CDA also beat PVV.
Overall about 1/3rd of the seats in the Dutch house are held by Euroskeptic parties and the remaining by pro-EU parties.
The real stories of the 2017 election is that Wilders failed to translate polling momentum into results and the collapse of Labour. VVD's losses primarily benefitted CDA and Labour's losses primarily benefited GL and D66. I'm really sorry you support Geert Wilders, but you supporting him doesn't mean he's not a giant loser.
Good news for you: The people on the street wont vote on if germany will defend other NATO members.
Everyone involved is very aware of the fact that we dont get shit done alone against russia.I'm not sure what you're getting at? While yes the strengths of the Russian army are vastly overplayed on both sides for political reasons, it's not exactly a controversial statement to suggest that the poorly maintained and manned german defense situation would be overwhelmed without US support by a Russian attack.
However, this is an all but meaningless scenario to contemplate because the German army (as of today and the foreseeable future despite the panic here) in a 1 on 1 fight with Russia would never occur because NATO comes into play. US troops are stationed all across europe. Even without the US and UK, France isn't going to sit by and let it happen either and France has nukes. Again: Putin knows this, and is never going to attack. All putin wants is pressure on all sides involved so he has a better hand to play.
Yeah that free candy of being dragged into a bullshit war that destabilized an entire region, the free candy of having more terrorist attacks which comes in no small part due to the destabilization of the region (not that terrorist attacks themselves are new), the free candy of getting a financial crisis in no small part caused by a severe lack of financial regulations in the US because the power of the free market fuck yeah (the EU had roughly 4 trillion more GDP than the USA before the crisis), the free candy of having to take a bunch of refugees due to previously mentioned things, the free candy of giving between zero and none shits about global warming, good thing trump came along or we might just all get diabetic from all this free candy the US was handing us out.
I mean don't take this the wrong way, not saying the partnership with the USA isn't beneficial, it was in the past and is going to continue to be in the future, because really the relationship we have with the USA is really not going to happen with someone like China, but the idea the USA was handing out free candy is hilarious.
It's spelt baffling, and it shows attitudes in Germany pretty well.
Politicians mirror those attitudes. Germany is too reliant on Russia to be a reliable partner either.