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Isn't it kind of weird that The Penguin is so famous? (Batman)

The animation revamp to Batman TAS was a net loss all around. Batman looked worse. Joker looked worse. Robin looked worse. Penguin looked worse. You get the point.

the show itself got worse honestly. it felt more like all the other superhero shows whereas before it had a nice 50s pulp vibe to it all.
 

Hex

Banned
Fuck Danny Devito for pretty much almost ruining the character.
But why wouldn't he be famous? Longevity, ruthlessness , success.
 

Sojgat

Member
Missed one.

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Kung Fu Penguin is the GOAT.
 

Yup. The 60's show did a lot to establish who would remain relevant in Batman's rogues gallery for years to come. Burgess Meredith did a lot to define the character in pop culture.

When it comes down to the Penguin, you have to realize he's a character with an easily identifiable design and gimmick. All you need to do is give the guy a tux, a trick umbrella, monocle, or some combination of the above.. In recent years, more and more writers have fleshed out the Cobblepott and Wayne connection that Batman and the Penguin have from childhood, making him an enemy that hates both Batman and Bruce Wayne separately, unaware that they're the same person.

He's also compelling because he's often written as this sort of underdog character, whether due to his deformities and handicaps or social status. As other have pointed out, he's the perfect bridge between the insane freaks and the ruthless gangsters of Gotham. He often goes to extreme lengths to prove himself as one of the greats and elites of Gotham. Look at Batman Returns and Gotham, or that one episode of BTAS where he fell in love. You often find yourself rooting for the guy to win against all odds despite how evil he can be. Of course he can also be written as the most disgusting and monstrous man alive which somehow makes him even more fascinating.

He's definitely one of my favorites for sure.
 
I know it's been said, he was already a top villain before the Tim Burton movies. I remember as a kid thinking he was pretty much the #2 Batman villain behind Joker.
 

Alienous

Member
I don't think he's famous at all.

Is he more famous than The Riddler? I don't think so, and The Riddler isn't very famous.
 
Read Catwomen Vol. 7: Inheritance

Penguin orchestrates a war between the Mob, Black Mask, and the Yakuza so all three duke it out until one is left standing. He then relies on Catwomen and the police to deal with last faction while he swoops in and buys large portions of Gotham's businesses that used to belong to the criminal factions for almost nothing. He then turns all those businesses into racketeering firms and money cleaning operations.
 
The Penguin has always been my favourite comic book villain, and I have no idea why. I'm not even a big fan of Batman's rogue galaxy, but I've always loved The Penguin.
 
Maybe it's because I'm 30 but I have no idea who Burgess Meredith even was before clicking this thread. IMO it's Batman Returns who made the Penguin iconic.
 

7Th

Member
Other than Lex Luthor, Magneto and some of Spider-Man's villains (Green Goblin, Venom and Doc Ock), Batman's core roster of villains are by far the most well-known comic book rogues in popular culture. And Penguin is definitely top 5.
 
Burgess Meredith was such an iconic portrayal of the Penguin because he owned the screen every time he was on the set and always seemed like he was having the time of his life. Go back and watch some old Batman episodes. Meredith made The Penguin a memorable villain.
 
Other than Lex Luthor, Magneto and some of Spider-Man's villains (Green Goblin, Venom and Doc Ock), Batman's core roster of villains are by far the most well-known comic book rogues in popular culture. And Penguin is definitely top 5.
Pretty much. I can name a few villains of Superman, X-Men, Spiderman, but I feel like I know pretty much every major Batman villain and a ton of minor ones.
 

Sephzilla

Member
My top 5 Batman villains would probably be

1- Joker
2- Penguin
3- Catwoman
4- Riddler
5- Two-Face

Honorable Mentions: Mr. Freeze, Bane, Ra's Al Ghul
 
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ZombieFred

Unconfirmed Member
Other than Lex Luthor, Magneto and some of Spider-Man's villains (Green Goblin, Venom and Doc Ock), Batman's core roster of villains are by far the most well-known comic book rogues in popular culture. And Penguin is definitely top 5.

Batmans Rogues Gallery is the definitive top if you ask me. It has a long legacy that has evolved and shaped it to make any of his villains to be the most famous out there in the world. I would go Batman, Spiderman, and Xmen as the top three tier list.
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
Because he was big in the Adam West Batman show and the feature villain in Batman Returns, that's why.

He usually goes through phases in the comics where he barely shows up for years.
 

Sephzilla

Member
If you're counting Catwoman she absolutely is ahead of Penguin in terms of recognition.

Yeah the reason I kept her at #3 is because she waffles between hero and villain, and I sort of feel she's more popular when she's doing the heroic shit and not the villain stuff. I should probably scratch (haha) Catwoman from my list because she's basically not a villain anymore.

Other than Lex Luthor, Magneto and some of Spider-Man's villains (Green Goblin, Venom and Doc Ock), Batman's core roster of villains are by far the most well-known comic book rogues in popular culture. And Penguin is definitely top 5.

Batman's B and C tier villains are better than some hero's arch-villains.
 

Beartruck

Member
Each of Batman's villains are a foil to him in some way. The Penguin is a foil to Batman's wealth. While Bruce uses money fight crime and help people, the Penguin uses his money to stomp those he perceives have slighted him.
 
Each of Batman's villians are a foil to him in some way. The Penguin is foil to Batman's wealth. While Bruce uses money fight crime and help people, the Penguin uses his money to stomp those he perceives have slighted him.
That's part of why his rogues gallery is so memorable to this day. If you know Batman and what makes him tick, you can remember all his best villains because they reflect some aspect of him
 
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