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Media Create Sales: Week 22, 2017 (May 29 - Jun 04)

Passose

Banned
They have a couple of unannounced games in development. At the risk of sounding cliche, I know someone who works for bandai namco.
I also know a couple of people who work for Bamco too
Reading these MC threads you would think Switch is destined to only recieve late ports for all eternity.
Reading these MC threads you would think Switch is a commercial failure that has been dead for a few years
 

Laplasakos

Member
Reading these MC threads you would think Switch is destined to only recieve late ports for all eternity.

Well, even if you look at new announcements, you could at least expect games like Dragon Ball FighterZ and Code Vein but nope. I will wait for the Nintendo showcase later today before sharing my thoughts but things right now don't look great in terms of japanese support.
 
Well, even if you look at new announcements, you could at least expect games like Dragon Ball FighterZ and Code Vein but nope. I will wait for the Nintendo showcase later today before sharing my thoughts but things right now don't look great in terms of japanese support.

1. it looks like people were expecting it to bomb hard.
2. if current sales continue i could see the support improving
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
That's the narrative some want to push.

it would be great to see actual third party support going against that claim, without the continue goalpost moving (reveal, january event, spring direct, E3...now it is TGS time, than there will be a Fall Direct...)
 

sinonobu

Banned
Yeah seems like Switch is destined to be doomed.

No mainline MH and all the Japanese support it's getting are ports only.

RIP

/s
 

Sandfox

Member
Well, even if you look at new announcements, you could at least expect games like Dragon Ball FighterZ and Code Vein but nope. I will wait for the Nintendo showcase later today before sharing my thoughts but things right now don't look great in terms of japanese support.
I'm not sure I agree with that. We've had multiple companies promising additional support like KT, L5, and NIS, the major companies bringing stuff, and some already seeing good success.

it would be great to see actual third party support going against that claim, without the continue goalpost moving (reveal, january event, spring direct, E3...now it is TGS time, than there will be a Fall Direct...)
Whenever people bring up the current support in response to those claims people tend to ignore or come up with some reason why it doesn't count from what I've seen. It's obviously not the PS4, but some people are acting like there's nothing and never will be anything.
 
I don't see how looking at the current landscape we aren't considering the Switch's Japanese support disappointing. Yeah things take more time to get the ball rolling but with basically zero announcements at all it's hard to say with a straight face the landscape isn't concerning. At least imo.
 

casiopao

Member
I think all in all that MHXX on Switch will be the last handheld MH for a while. I think that Capcom rather will focus on MHW and hope that it will sell a lot better than the handheld MH have done in the past.

Japan is an bit of a hit or miss. But I think it could sell a million in Japan and 5-6 million worldwide on all 3 platforms.

I do wonder if Arms can break 150k, if so I do wonder if it can do 250k. How long can Nintendo go with these big shortages without increasing the production for Switch?

5-6 million WW is damn agressive lol. That would need to beat literally all recent MH great WW performance.O_O
 

Fisico

Member
This.
Several Tales games were announced as flagship titles but that status was scaled back when they sold poorly.

That only happened once with Tales of the Tempest where they suddenly pulled out of their ass the mothership/escort title classification.
It wasn't about sales also (Tempest ended around 250k which is very similar to what Innocence and Hearts did and these two are still considered mothership) but more quality with Dimps being on a roll back then.
 

Datschge

Member
Ōkami;240431926 said:
I wish it were. It's exactly the same video, just with faster cuts.

Something about the monster animations rub me the wrong way. Lack weight and momentum (most visible in that chasing t-rex scenes), which is kind of odd to notice now as MH always lacked it. I guess the better graphics make the disparity more apparent.

Honestly the whole MHW reveal felt like they finally revealed MHO outside of China (I know they are not the same, but it didn't feel like offering any real surprises, outside inane machine gun shots).

comcept is part of level 5 now (new name is level 5 comcept)
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20014836.html
Sounds like a perfect match.

It wasn't about sales also
It had one shipment and sold most of it out of the bomba bin.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
I don't see how looking at the current landscape we aren't considering the Switch's Japanese support disappointing. Yeah things take more time to get the ball rolling but with basically zero announcements at all it's hard to say with a straight face the landscape isn't concerning. At least imo.

PS4 is in its 4th year on the market. Switch is in its 4th month.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
PS4 is in its 4th year on the market. Switch is in its 4th month.

No need to worry, now everything has changed thanks to the most recent Koei Tecmo's megaton for Switch, Champion Jockey Special!

http://www.perfectly-nintendo.com/k...key-special-coming-nintendo-switch-september/

Sorry for the joke :p

Actually it seems Winning Post 8 is coming to Switch as well, going by Nintendo Everything..?

http://nintendoeverything.com/koei-tecmo-putting-champion-jockey-special-on-switch/
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
This doesn't address any of what I said

My point is that Japanese 3rd party support rarely arrives right away. And Switch has received some Japanese announcements since launch- granted, no megatons, but mid-tierish franchises.
 
I think all in all that MHXX on Switch will be the last handheld MH for a while. I think that Capcom rather will focus on MHW and hope that it will sell a lot better than the handheld MH have done in the past.

Japan is an bit of a hit or miss. But I think it could sell a million in Japan and 5-6 million worldwide on all 3 platforms.

I do wonder if Arms can break 150k, if so I do wonder if it can do 250k. How long can Nintendo go with these big shortages without increasing the production for Switch?

That would be a tremendous success. Really curious how some of the Souls base and Dragons Dogma base eat into this. I think it surpassing the portable entries (4 million) is already tough.

Reading these MC threads you would think Switch is destined to only recieve late ports for all eternity.

Reading MC threads a while back you would think Switch would be getting most if not all PS4/V games.

Mpl even tried to liken it to PS4 but it falls apart when you see the second year support. Sure Switch support will increase, thats expected but the point of contention is by how much.

I think hardware limitations will once again mean a notable amount of third party not considering the platform worthwhile.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
Mpl even tried to liken it to PS4 but it falls apart when you see the second year support. Sure Switch support will increase, thats expected but the point of contention is by how much.
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Switch has been out 3 months and you're already trying to judge it based on 2nd year titles? Come on.
 

KtSlime

Member
I don't see how looking at the current landscape we aren't considering the Switch's Japanese support disappointing. Yeah things take more time to get the ball rolling but with basically zero announcements at all it's hard to say with a straight face the landscape isn't concerning. At least imo.

It would be nice if there were more announcements for the Switch from Japanese developers, of course, but let's not fool ourselves, Switch has better Japanese support from Day One than PS4, and after a very long dry spell the games that were released on PS4 ports or were also released on PS3 and Vita at the same time to cover the loss in market. It wasn't until recent that PS4 started to stand on it's own.

Japanese developers are very risk averse. More support will come, Nintendo does well in their home market.
 
See how much support PS4 had in its first year, and you'll understand better what he meant.

I know what the first year of the PS4 looked like. That doesn't address what I said. With the PS4 it was always going to get bigger games announced for it at some point in the life cyle which is why the first year is less important.

My point is that Japanese 3rd party support rarely arrives right away. And Switch has received some Japanese announcements since launch- granted, no megatons, but mid-tierish franchises.

When you launch a mid generation hardware I think there is more expectations that that hardware should garner support quicker. The total lack 3rd party presence on the Switch at E3 doesn't concern you even a little?
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
When you launch a mid generation hardware I think there is more expectations that that hardware should garner support quicker. The total lack 3rd party presence on the Switch at E3 doesn't concern you even a little?

Well, we'll know better in about 3 hours. I think from a Japanese publisher perspective the one real eyebrow raiser at E3 has been Namco in terms of not announcing Switch stuff. E3 is obviously very western focused so I was never expecting a ton of announcements.
 

Alrus

Member
That would be a tremendous success. Really curious how some of the Souls base and Dragons Dogma base eat into this. I think it surpassing the portable entries (4 million) is already tough.

There's a sizeable Dragon's Dogma base? I thought the game bombed overseas.

I think the game even doing 4M worldwide would be a tremendous success (because it would signify huge growth overseas) but I really doubt it will manage it. It all depends on content, hopefully we should know more soon-ish.
 

Kanann

Member
I know this has become a MH dicussion thread but

ARMS has surpassed splatoon on both amazon and rakuten chart, so maybe it will sell better than people thought.

sorry for my poor english.

Your english is light years better than mine, stop be little yourself.






Go on, more monhun create thread.
 
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