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Shooting at GOP baseball practice, multiple injured incl/ Maj. Whip Scalise
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People need to understand that you can't make martyrs out of these people, it only empowers them.
Sho_Nuff82
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What the fuck
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
You must be my ex girlfriend if you think Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization with no valuable cause.
Lolol
Wag
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Mammoth Jones
Member
Yep.
No, I'm not. Not in the least. But the right certainly views them as that.
Now to work in feminism is evil
Oh boy
Get ready to hear about the radical left ad nauseum
I hate when morons commit violence to enact political agendas. It just hurts the victims and people on your end of the spectrum while giving your opponents a free dunk.
Regardless, I hope the victims recover and my thoughts go out to their families.
V
Vilix
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Has a motive been discovered yet? I'm at work so I haven't been able to keep abreast of current events.
Related to the story in this thread how?
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Not that i know of
shadow_shogun
Member
That's what I thought, glad you cleared that up.
Muppet of a Man
Member
Projection is a hell of a drug.
Yea. and Democrats are certainly centrist in many ways so....
guggnichso
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This is an observation that piqued (is that the right word?) my interest. Could you maybe elaborate on this?
Because to clarify my posts - I object to the mention that life in the U.S. under Trump for minorities (which I define as POC and LGBT people and non-citizens or illegals or undocumented immigrants) is comparable to what jews, LGBT people and dissidents faced under Hitler.
In my opinion, it is NOT comparable, thus marginalizing the holocaust.
However, I never said that POC or LGBT or any other minorities have it easy in the U.S. Especially black people have it extremely hard, with U.S. police just shooting innocent POC with no questions asked. With your court system bringing the hammer down on black people and letting white people go with a warning. With your inherent racism that flared up during the Obama administration, empowering the Tea Party, and in the end, fucking Trump himself. Hell, the war on drugs mostly targeted black people.
I do not take anything away from that. The issues of slavery and segregation and all those lynchings still echoe Internet the present times. But those are atrocities in their own right, and they need to be addressed as such! Marginalizing other crimes against people only weakens your own agenda. U.S. racism, slavery, segregation is an atrocity in its own right. The continuing downtrodding of black or POC communities is despicable. But all of those despicable actions stand for themselves, in their own rights, and should be addressed as such.
Comparing the war on drugs (which was and is nothing more than a racist dogwhistle) to the holocaust ist a mistake and only weakens your argument.
What happens to POC in the US is catastrophically evil all in its own right. What the U.S. did to it's native population is evil in its own right. Don't co-opt atrocities committed to another part of you population while simultaneously mocking them (evil cis white males) to make your argument more impactful. You just end up looking petty and stupid and uninformed.
There are conflicting reports if the shooter is even alive still, I don't think we are going to learn anything solid for a bit. We may never get more than speculation if he is dead. This is very likely politically motivated though.
SoRuffShoNuff
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Why post this here?
Cesare Borgia
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Lots of fucking pathetic posts in this thread.
It's Flag Day?
Th.. thank you? I guess?
ErasureAcer
Banned
This society seems to think if you're under threat it's alright to kill...see War on Terror, cops shooting unarmed people, xenophobic, homophobic and racist hate crimes.
This is just an extension of that.
Some dude feels under threat from people he hates and thinks he can solve all the problems through killing.
It doesnt work in terror or anything else. Killing isnt the answer to solving problems.
Spin will be horrible not pointing out how this is what goes on every day in many different ways and failing to see how agencies of the govt commit the same paranoid acts as if there is no other way.
This is just an extension of that.
Some dude feels under threat from people he hates and thinks he can solve all the problems through killing.
It doesnt work in terror or anything else. Killing isnt the answer to solving problems.
Spin will be horrible not pointing out how this is what goes on every day in many different ways and failing to see how agencies of the govt commit the same paranoid acts as if there is no other way.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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If republicans are going to pin this shit on liberals, then it should hammered to death that sandyhook, oklahoma, etc etc are all on right wing conservatives then.
No, see, because clearly those things didn't happen, false flags, fake actors, it was just a mental illness. etc. etc. etc.
God, it made me feel sick just typing that trash.
Hoax, false flag, mentally ill, etc, etc.
Edit: Made basically the same post simultaneously. ^
you keep saying "marginalize" but I never downplayed the significance of the holocaust. You were upset I compared it to something that you don't deem as impactful because you don't have any proximity to it
Mammoth Jones
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White conservatives has always painted Blacks that are "uppity" as prone to violence and in need of being "kept in check". Always.
Netherscourge
Banned
CNN says multiple people were shot at a UPS facility in SF.
Doesn't sound related to the shooting in Virginia.
BrutishMrFish
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But they also qualify as "the left wing," so they're not going to paint themselves as evil.
Also, why do you keep trying to ignoring the fact that minorities and the poor largely support the people you claim are centrists?
Mango Positive
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Minorities vote at a lower rate than white folk. There was a pretty sharp decline in minority turnout between 2012 and 2016. Not "their" fault, as all groups are composed of individuals, but there's data to back it up.
Well CLEARLY this guy was under mind control by the Minority Hivemind and they made him do it.
That's news to me.
We support Democrats because we have no other viable choice.
Eitherway, my takeaway from this is the country wants to unite under demonizing the left-wing/centrists want to say we have to unite with my oppressors. Least that's what I'm seeing on various news shows/online. I oppose both counts.
It's very bad this happened but the demonizing of the left wing/claims we need to unite with the party that wants to ruin my life and the lives of million also disgusts me.
GoldenEye 007
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Minorities are also highly targeted for voter suppression. They have been since the founding of this country.
While violence against anyone is never an answer, I'd hope this would make the GOP pause a bit. Between healthcare and the Russian mess becoming so partisan (much less everything else), stoking the type of divide we're seeing IS dangerous.
Lastly, where were all these calls for prayer and thought from these politicians when we've been seeing people murdered by gun violence week by week. As expected it's different when it happens to "one of their own"... and this will do nothing to progress the topic of gun violence. Instead they'll use it as a political headline about the looney left.
Lastly, where were all these calls for prayer and thought from these politicians when we've been seeing people murdered by gun violence week by week. As expected it's different when it happens to "one of their own"... and this will do nothing to progress the topic of gun violence. Instead they'll use it as a political headline about the looney left.
whitemex88
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Lonewulfeus
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All depends on where you sit, if the status quo works for you then you don't see the problems. If we keep heading down the road the GOP wants lots of people will be desperate enough to do this or worse.
TheClimaxan
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And in a more related incident, the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
gregor7777
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From a previous discussion, turnout related.
Lightning_Roller
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Are you really that fucking brainless to say shit like that? Really? Blame black people? Get outta here and don't come back.
JetBlackPanda
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let them play the blame game, its a bad look.
Bernie was in a town hall with John Kasich like a month ago talking about this exact thing.
Bernie was in a town hall with John Kasich like a month ago talking about this exact thing.
whitemex88
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But like, you know that followers with eat this shit up
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