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GameSpot: Capcom Not Bringing Switch Ver. of Monster Hunter XX to US (at this time)
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NightwingRebirth
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People keep mentioning how Capcom is making a mistake by not bringing XX out for the "red hot Switch," but let's not forget the 3DS is still alive and kicking. Cross-play with the Switch also means we probably wouldn't see Switch sales cut into 3DS ones much.
It's not the Switch sales that Capcom's missing out on really, it's the 3DS sales. Of course, XX on the Switch would also build the audience up for them at the same time, which is basically two wins for some work that probably wouldn't require too many resources.
It's not the Switch sales that Capcom's missing out on really, it's the 3DS sales. Of course, XX on the Switch would also build the audience up for them at the same time, which is basically two wins for some work that probably wouldn't require too many resources.
It's definitely two missed opportunities here, but as far as visibility is concerned, it's more important for it to be on Switch, as there's definitely a hungry new audience that would look at something like MHXX more closely than they would have otherwise. Like I said, this is a situation where Capcom is insisting we buy only one game when they can easily sell two.
Gotdatmoney
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No vanilla versions for me going forward (if they do localize it, if they don't I'm out for the franchise). Not localizing the expansion is such bullshit that I would just incline people don't buy the vanilla's.
J
Jpop
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You know one of the best ways to introduce people to a franchise, release it early on a fresh console.
Capcom is killing what makes MH MH to me, so I'll drop the franchise. I see it as a big fuck you to everyone who has loved and played it as a local co-op franchise.
No PC version day and date.
The assumption is they'd bring both out at the same time, but the Switch version be a lot more desirable to people given it'd be cleaner and probably run at a higher framerate. There's also cross-play between both versions, which removes a barrier.
You say 1 million, another post says 900k, another just says 'nope'. VHchartz says 320k. I've read 700-750,000 as a combined 'western' sales figure. So yes, that's a notable decline.
Why are we even talking about global sales when the topic is 'Screw Capcom for not bringing it to the US market'?
This isn't an argument that does your point favors. The last reported numbers months ago in the west were 900k. I rounded both U and X up to round figures.
Don't waste our time referencing made up chartzzz numbers or people who have no idea what they are talking about. And look at the quantifier on the statement I made.
No. There isn't notable decline. There's an exaggerated interest from a new hardware co-marketing campaign for the first major westward entry.
Eolz
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I don't think people are swearing off the franchise, but IF those big IFs happen, I don't think that Capcom will mind that some former players will skip buying World for a while either...
Well yeah, but as you've said, the big issue come back to the lack of localization.
It'd be all fine if Japan kept getting portable games (which it will) if the west was getting them as well (which it isn't).
If they planned on doing a late localization, there'd be no problem in saying they'll bring it next year. It's not the case, so using terrible communication and basically saying "please buy World instead" is pretty aggravating.
epicnemesis
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Switch version was going to be my first foray into MH. Oh well.
I must have an underestimated idea of localization costs because I feel like I could localize a game for like $1000 on fiverr.
I must have an underestimated idea of localization costs because I feel like I could localize a game for like $1000 on fiverr.
Night Angel
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500-600k lost sales is a pretty damn notable decline, new hardware or no. Given that MHXX wouldn't also be coupled with new hardware, the MHG sales are more relevant to the sales potential of MHXX.
Maybe Capcom is focusing on trying to build a new fanbase rather than doubling down on one in decline. They're gambling that they will get more people in the West than they did on 3DS, which should be pretty easy given the modest sales of MHG over here. I can't speculate on whether they plan to fully recover whatever JP sales they lose from this transition, but to me it seems like they want a piece of the thriving Western console/PC market instead of hitching their wagon to the dying anything-but-phones gaming market in Japan.
Those may be the business reasons they are skipping out or delaying MHXX here. They don't do much to satisfy my disappointment, but I can kinda see why they're doing what they're doing from a business perspective.
DrROBschiz
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The venom is this topic is palpable
Its like you 3DS guys forgot how much shit you gave all the people who didnt enjoy the 3DS era
We are on your side and I think the entire MH fanbase got excited by the switch port. Pretty sure all of us can agree we wanted XX to come over
That said.. shitting on MHW and what it represents is pretty vile at the same time
We should have gotten both and we may still get both
If I can trudge through the 6 nasty years of 3DS exclusivity im sure you guys can tolerate waiting a year for a portable version. We do need to let Capcom know loud and clear that we want ALL games.
#whynotboth
Its like you 3DS guys forgot how much shit you gave all the people who didnt enjoy the 3DS era
We are on your side and I think the entire MH fanbase got excited by the switch port. Pretty sure all of us can agree we wanted XX to come over
That said.. shitting on MHW and what it represents is pretty vile at the same time
We should have gotten both and we may still get both
If I can trudge through the 6 nasty years of 3DS exclusivity im sure you guys can tolerate waiting a year for a portable version. We do need to let Capcom know loud and clear that we want ALL games.
#whynotboth
Eolz
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Most people are for both here.
Nobody is shitting on World since the leaked gameplay, but there's still good reasons to shit on Capcom.
It doesn't help when some people say "who cares about XX, W is what every true fan wanted!".
#whynotboth indeed, which is what the thread is about. Not about "it's fine japan is getting XX", "MHW couldn't run on Switch anyway" (it could), "the franchise will lose X many sales by skipping handhelds" vs "there's a secret huge fanbase waiting since the PS2 days to make this a 4 million seller in the west"...
Nobody is shitting on World since the leaked gameplay, but there's still good reasons to shit on Capcom.
It doesn't help when some people say "who cares about XX, W is what every true fan wanted!".
#whynotboth indeed, which is what the thread is about. Not about "it's fine japan is getting XX", "MHW couldn't run on Switch anyway" (it could), "the franchise will lose X many sales by skipping handhelds" vs "there's a secret huge fanbase waiting since the PS2 days to make this a 4 million seller in the west"...
Gotdatmoney
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Wanting a game (an expansion of a game we got in english actually) localized is not venom. No matter how you wanna take it if Capcom just localized the fuckong game we wouldn't be having this convo.
All the systen warrior shit ignores that we have a game that will make money and had the base release in english not being released. Everyone should be pissed about that.
Also, holding out hope for both is dumb. Its on Capcom to communicate plans in a way that does not piss the fanbase the fuck off. If XX is coming they should just fucking say so. Is all this anger they are stirring worth "promoting" World?
My point of view here is that the 4U launch + N3DS was inflated, X shows you the actual sustained audience. This is common when a title is launched with some strong cross-promotion, people with little interest will often pick up the title and find it... not very interesting.
I have never thought the MH audience was exceedingly large in the west even on handhelds but at least for handhelds we have a general ballpark of ~1m.
That is the audience that Capcom is, basically, ignoring and clicking their heels hoping to get them into MHW or they otherwise think they can dredge up another million and more from the cosmic aether.
AquaWateria
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No one just shitting on Capcom being clueless on XX.
Trump.
Seriously though, I hope they localise XX at some point. Nobody should be missing out on these games.
Here's what strikes me as pig headed about this decision. Capcom is acting like they're smaller than they really are with it. Some people on the thread have said that their localization department is probably stretched thin, but that doesn't preclude on getting a 3rd party localization studio from doing it, like 8-4 Play or another localization studio to do it.
It's the same reason Square Enix gives when they don't want to localize Dragon Quest games despite knowing there's a western audience for this stuff. It's annoying at best and shows that these companies aren't thinking like the global companies they are. I get that localization can be an expensive and time extensive prospect, but it's also a smaller part of the overall budget of an development of a game and it potentially opens up an entire new region for your game.
It's the same reason Square Enix gives when they don't want to localize Dragon Quest games despite knowing there's a western audience for this stuff. It's annoying at best and shows that these companies aren't thinking like the global companies they are. I get that localization can be an expensive and time extensive prospect, but it's also a smaller part of the overall budget of an development of a game and it potentially opens up an entire new region for your game.
Vyse The Legend
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They're confirmed to be helping on Monster Hunter World.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
Is there a chance Capcom might put an English-language option in the game? If so, this might be nothing.
Eolz
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As in japan only release but with english text?
No chance. Nintendo would be fine to distribute it in the west otherwise if needed. It's not some anime vita game too risky for the west.
no because that would need the localization effort for translations and name changes, that basically means doing all the work of the localization but without releasing the product over here and instead only in japan, which is nonsensical.
Well, that's what they do! Anyone expecting a solid answer right now needs to temper their expectations. With Stories and World coming, I think Nintendo needs to step in if they want XX in the West.
Eolz
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And that's something that shouldn't have to happen.
Same for Dragon Quest and other IPs. Capcom could take care of their own franchises instead of just hoping for the best every time.
NintendosBooger
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Capcom getting handouts for SFV, MH, now MHWorld. Are they that broke or are they just without shame?
Gotdatmoney
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Capcom isn't even publishing Stories. That's the hilarious part. Nintendo is already doing their job for them. Fucking Capcom
Stories is not going to do very well.
MatrixMan.EXE
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They're currently working on getting Monster Hunter Stories and Monster Hunter World out. There's not really much more they can say. If they're not ready to talk about MHXX, they're not ready to talk about MHXX.
That just makes it sadder IMO.
Eolz
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Shouldn't be too hard to do better than in Japan.
If they don't want to talk about XX you mean. I doubt they'll ever be ready to talk about it.
MatrixMan.EXE
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I'll be doing my bit, don't be sad!
I thought Nintendo was doing the work/publishing Stories?
MatrixMan.EXE
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They are, though I doubt Capcom has no hand in it whatsoever.
Eolz
Member
Have the amiibos been confirmed for the West?
I think Nintendo just saw a nice opportunity, with the anime, another game for a young audience like Yokai Watch, etc. And the game being good obviously.
Nothing more.
Hey, it's better than being an Ace Attorney fan, at least they aren't ignoring people... The only way those questions ever get answered is through the press.
Western covers has the amiibo logo on it, so we can assume they will distribute at least small quantities of them
I already own all of them from my latest Tokyo trip so I don't mind it LOL
Basically this.
I want to buy both, namely because one group of friends will be playing Worlds and another isn't going to buy a PS4 JUST to play World, and I can't blame them.
So in my situation, this absolutely sucks, as the latter group is my reliable MH hunting party. And Capcom is being lame about this.
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Capcom TV showing off more MHXX Switch ver. in 5 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVuwQtUht8s
Capcom TV showing off more MHXX Switch ver. in 5 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVuwQtUht8s
TheBaldEmperor
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Son of a...
;_;
mrpallyguy
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Hopefully they announce a localization in there or after they launch it right
Hopefully they announce a localization in there or after they launch it right
I don't think a Japanese stream is the place where they'd announce a Western release.
And? What's the point of even bothering to look at it when it's not being released outside of Japan?
Would you not lick the plate of what you think is your last meal?
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