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Teen charged with killing her boyfriend during a failed YouTube stunt
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He asked her to, evidently, and they thought it was safe.
Obviously they can be prosecuted, but I personally don't see any value in it, particularly since they have kids. The circumstances are so weird that there's no real deterrent value and the woman clearly isn't likely to reoffend.
Agreed. What she'll need is some serious mental trauma therapy, not time behind bars.
That's just for legal purposes. I don't even consider a 19 year old have enough life experience to be considered an adult.
Fallout-NL
Member
Unless you can prove some kind of malicious premeditation, the only thing putting her in jail will achieve is increasing the odds of her children pretty ending up in the gutter as well.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
I feel terrible that he's dead but I mean what planet do you live on to believe that a book would stop a bullet, especially from a DE? How does someone like that even own a gun? This is so absurd on so many levels.
I'm honestly worried for that child. The fact that this chick also believed this would work tells me she's stupid to a dangerous degree.
I'm honestly worried for that child. The fact that this chick also believed this would work tells me she's stupid to a dangerous degree.
She was coerced into doing the act by her boyfriend. I really hope she gets off with a not guilty verdict. No one wins by putting her in prison for 10 years.
tell that to all the cops who keep getting away with murder, brah
tell that to all the cops who keep getting away with murder, brah
Dash_Riprock
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Posts like this are why I both love and hate NeoGAF.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
Agree with the prison sentence comment but I mean to what degree was she coerced? He said "shoot me with a Desert Eagle 5.0 and the book will stop the bullet" and she said, "Uh, OK."
I mean she even Tweeted that it was dangerous and still did it.
Damn, this is a very sad and stupid situation but i laughed really hard at this gif.
I'll see myself out.
Earthbound64
Banned
Having a kid at 15 is super-easy (assuming no medical issues and such)
Having a kid at all is super-easy (again, assuming no medical issues and such)
Managing to raise them isn't easy.
Raising them well is difficult.
Raising them well when you had them at 15 is even more difficult.
But, having them is super-easy.
Nydius
Gold Member
The "but he asked me to" defense isn't going to work. She clearly didn't think it was safe, as she tweeted beforehand that it was their most dangerous stunt ever. Not only that but this wasn't the first time he asked her to do this and she declined previously, indicating obvious reluctance based on the danger.
She knew what she was doing was reckless and tried to absolve herself of any wrongdoing beforehand in the same tweet, with the "HIS idea not MINE" part.
Don't conflate murder and manslaughter. No malice aforethought is required for manslaughter charges. Manslaughter charges don't even require the offender to be fully aware of the recklessness of their actions. It's simply: Did the person act in a reckless manner which ended with the illegal taking of a life? In this case, the answer is clearly yes. It truly doesn't matter if it was his stupid idea, she's the one responsible for the reckless act that ended her boyfriend's life. She declined in the past, she obviously understood the danger, and she did it anyway.
As for the children, they're already "in the gutter". Regardless of the outcome of the criminal case, Child Protective Services are going to be so far up her ass they'll tickle her thoracic diaphragm. Not only did she cause the death of the childrens' father, she also endangered their toddler with the act. The likelihood of her children being taken from her custody and being put with her parents, or her former boyfriends' parents, is pretty high.
The value of putting her in prison is simply justice. She committed an irresponsible act that ended with the illegal taking of a life. Beyond that, it serves as a message that irresponsible actions with guns are punishable. This notion that she shouldn't get any punishment at all leaves me absolutely flabbergasted because if you were to get your way on that point you'd be setting a horrible legal precedent for people recklessly taking lives with guns as playthings - the exact opposite of increasing gun safety awareness and/or gun control.
I don't think she should get the max but something damn close.
Jzero
Member
Nah, just don't do it at all. A couple hundred subscribers isn't worth being a single parent with one kid and one on the way because you shot your boyfriend during a stunt that he poorly thought out and now you're in jail and your kids are gonna get taken away from you, especially since the subscriber count will start to drop again now that no one is putting up videos.
So it was basically all for nothing.
MilkyJoe
Member
Made me chuckle.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Shooting a desert eagle, a gun known for its power, one foot away and hoping a book to stop the bullet.... How the fuck did they manage to get a gun anyway?
RIP to boyfriend. What a terrible situation
RIP to boyfriend. What a terrible situation
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I can't remember the outcomes but mythbusters tested all kinds of shit like this that were have supposed to have stopped a bullet in stories.
(sheriff badge, phones, bibles, stack of pizzas )
I don't think many worked. Let alone the gun they used here.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I can think of better ways to test whether or not a book would stop a bullet that doesn't involve putting someone's life at risk.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Allegedly her boyfriend was dead set on making their channel famous, as stated by his aunt, and he apparently showed her a book that did successfully stop the bullet they used. Whether or not he believes distance has no correlation to a bullet's speed is up to debate.
Fallout-NL
Member
Completely with you here.
But here I do think that justice (in terms of revenge or payback) is something of an outdated concept that achieves very little.
As for gun safety and control, I think it's painfully obvious that the US is beyond all hope.
Unless this was a copy of War and Peace lined with Kevlar ... eh ... a hand cannon at close range? Yeah, probably unstoppable. Tragic and stupid.
Common sense just flew out the window? Just for shits and giggles, go out to a firing range and JUST try the book by itself and upload that on YouTube?
They were going to be parents? What would they have done next ... gave the kid a gun in a YouTube stunt and played a game of Duck Duck, Desert Eagle?
How is this not premeditated murder? Intent? How do you tell a judge/prosecutor that your intent was for a high powered hand gun to be stopped by a paper book at 1ft away but unintentionally went through the book, the person who was holding it, and probably the drywall and the neighbor's car?
Common sense just flew out the window? Just for shits and giggles, go out to a firing range and JUST try the book by itself and upload that on YouTube?
They were going to be parents? What would they have done next ... gave the kid a gun in a YouTube stunt and played a game of Duck Duck, Desert Eagle?
How is this not premeditated murder? Intent? How do you tell a judge/prosecutor that your intent was for a high powered hand gun to be stopped by a paper book at 1ft away but unintentionally went through the book, the person who was holding it, and probably the drywall and the neighbor's car?
Ninja Scooter
Member
Bruh.
PedroLumpy
Member
Huh.. really odd that someone would have a Desert Eagle without any concept of how powerful it is. It's so iconic that I would've assumed people get them because it's a hand cannon.
LumpOfCole
Member
LordOfChaos
Member
They didn't try the book first? Or, you know, not shoot each other?
Natural selection, honestly. She's 7 months pregnant so will get near nothing I bet.
Natural selection, honestly. She's 7 months pregnant so will get near nothing I bet.
Yes. That's it. Proving a book can stop a bullet.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
SDCowboy
Member
Are you being serious?
ZoltanXerxes
Member
Tragic. This is what happens when you don't do your research. A 50 cal is going straight though just about everything at 1 foot away. I feel for the family of the victim, what a terrible loss.
andythinkpad
Member
If blocking bullet with a book work, you should have seen this fucking trick in movies. You usually need a metal badge or a cigarette case given by your wife to "block" it.
There's a guy in here asking since when was 19 classed as a teenager.
There are plenty of dumb people in this world.
I am dying here. NineTEEN year old still a teen. Fucking numbers, how do they work?
I mean, it obviously is a really stupid comment and the poster should have said since when was a 19 yo considered a "teen" -- but their point was that saying a "teen" generally infers younger than 19. I get the idea at least.
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