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[Hoje0308]

While we're at it, let's put this on the front cover as well.

Let's not make fans of online multiplayer games check the back of every box.

The label indicates support for a separate platform. You're dense if you think that should go on the back of the box.

 

[thiscoldblack]

Only PS VR is a new platform there is a reason it's on the front.

No need to have two places on the front to do it.

 

[Audioboxer]

So as much as "more is better" with something like car selection, 175+ cars is still totally solid in terms of the number of vehicles people are likely to actually use, and decent even for collection/completion's sake.

I VASTLY prefer a trimmed down selection now that it means quality consistency. GT5/6 had some real nonsense with limitations for tuning/camera views and jarring visual quality differences on legacy cars, which were half those game's car content. They're listening to a lot of feedback.

With a smaller number comes the famous problem with GT that it's 800 Nissan's. Vastly favouring Japanese cars is fine, when you still have a massive European/American Car selection. It's fun when there was a good selection of "reasonably priced cars" in the GT franchise too, and it wasn't just all sports/supercars.

I guess I wasn't too fussed about the legacy cars for that reason, although some of them were just bonkers levels of bad.

That other franchise that shouldn't be mentioned IS managing to do "premium" level cars in a better quantity than GT. Sure, GT often goes to hyper levels of realism/attention to detail (best there is), but this is an on-going problem with PD as a whole, they will not out-source or grow the studio.

 

[onemanasylum]

Not hyped , only 177 cars, when you just like to collect and drive them around isn't gonna cut it for me.

Game isn't for you then, this is about racing not car collecting. Much better imo, but to each their own. I cannot understand why anyone would prefer 1000 cars, with many duplicated and standards, plus a very dull SP mode full of bumper cars, but that's me. IMO, GT needed a restart, and number of cars doesn't make a game, id wager most players use a fraction of the entire car list.

Content is a lot more then cars/tracks...GT's car list was laughably poor, with too many duplicates and standards, Quality <> quality. I mean you cannot expect them to keep up what they were doing, it was a waste of time and resources to have 2000 + cars in the next GT.

 

[cakely]

GT games get released so infrequently this is a pretty big event.

It looks great but my expectations are properly managed. The last GT game I truly loved was GT4.

I eagerly await the release and reviews.

 

[thiscoldblack]

The label indicates support for a separate platform. You're dense if you think that should go on the back of the box.

There is no need to insult me. I didn't question the meaning of the labels. I am quite aware what it means. I understand it's a new feature to advertise, however, there is no need for it to be on two different areas on the front of the cover art.

 

[CriterionDog]

I've fallen in love with racing games over the past few years, but the only GT I played is very little of GT2.
Should I buy this? Looks really fun!
Will there be enough single player stuff? Is that what the campaign is? The career mode?

 

[MarcusB]

Finally! Aw man, between this and Forza, October's gonna be a killer month for racing.

I know! Want them both, but 2 weeks in between??

 

[TheAdmiester]

The lack of a real campaign is a total dealbreaker for me.

 

[eyeball_kid]

They've done a terrible job at managing expectations for this game. I was told prior to the beta that this game would be primarily a MP game and feature almost no SP.

Now I'm seeing people say there's over 100 SP events. Who knows what that means, but okay, that's something. I just feel very confused about what this game is and the audience it's targeting. I really don't care about MP. I enjoy GT for the SP experience, but I have no idea whether GT Sport will scratch that itch.

 

[onemanasylum]

The lack of a real campaign is a total dealbreaker for me.

There is one though......it even says in the blog post. we have screens of 100 + SP events, many of which are races I believe, along with challenges to improve your driving. Sounds better to me then the bumper car collecting GT had become.

 

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[Hoje0308]

There is no need to insult me. I didn't question the meaning of the labels. I am quite aware what it means. I understand it's a new feature to advertise, however, there is no need for it to be on two different areas on the front of the cover art.

It needs to catch the eye of people that don't follow these things. I agree the presentation is unsightly, but if it helps generate sales among those that don't follow gaming news but know the GT name Sony isn't going to stop simply because it seems unnecessary to some.

 

[MarcusB]

Damn! Planning to buy Forza 7, and would wait for GT Sport. Just 2 weeks in between? Expected this game near the end of the year.

 

[TheAdmiester]

There is one though......it even says in the blog post. we have screens of 100 + SP events, many of which are races I believe, along with challenges to improve your driving. Sounds better to me then the bumper car collecting GT had become.

That's what I meant by not a *real* campaign. Original GT games had these driving school missions as well as the whole car collecting campaign, and that's a very large part of what originally appealed to me.

The only real reason they were bumper car races was because the AI has always been terrible, but I'd still rather have had that than nothing.

 

[immortald3ath]

Is this game going to be $60 or $40?

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

&#128526; My PSVR and body are ready.

 

[onemanasylum]

That's what I meant by not a *real* campaign. Original GT games had these driving school missions as well as the whole car collecting campaign, and that's a very large part of what originally appealed to me.

The only real reason they were bumper car races was because the AI has always been terrible, but I'd still rather have had that than nothing.

Real campaign what is that? There is no one way to do a campaign, we also do not know what is in the campaign...there are races at least, it is not just license tests..... I understand that it may not appeal to you, that's find, but a campaign is there, and looks to have quite a bit too it. Lets see what exactly is in.

 

[Falchion]

Very cool, it's been a while since we've had a Forza and Gran Turismo launch so close to each other.

 

[Cloud7]

Guys, if you're playing it for the VR, be prepared for the disappointment. I tried it at E3 and it was one of the worst VR experiences I've ever had. No hyperbole here.

The graphics are downgraded significantly to the point where you see lots of jaggies on the screen. Also, the camera incorrectly can shift without your eyes in the corners at times. It's a total mess.

I'm trying to help y'all out by giving you the info. Please don't get hyped for the VR. I don't want you to get sad.

 

[Audioboxer]

Damn! Planning to buy Forza 7, and would wait for GT Sport. Just 2 weeks in between? Expected this game near the end of the year.

I didn't even know that was the case till it was pointed out to me a few posts ago.

If you ask me this is yet again another boneheaded Sony/PD move. F7 comes out two weeks earlier, will probably hit 85+ Metacritic if it isn't a F5, and will most likely be pretty polished. GT Sport will come out lacking in content from previous entries, will still have the confusion over why it's not called 7 and in usual style be broken at launch or chalked up as undercooked.

The setup for a bloodbath is right in front of us, and unfortunately, a fair few really are anticipating it. Two weeks on from a most likely "well reviewed" F7. Really Sony/PD? Unless you're truly confident... I hope my extreme pessimism is blown away, but I really really really doubt it.

Has PD even got dynamic weather back in yet? They've even regressed there from having it previously... and of course, F7 now has it (I believe).

 

[NullPointer]

And it's not like there's no single player. Just the career is different. I'm totally cool with just picking a track and a car and some options, and going.

Yeah, if there are races and time trials and I can configure things like number of laps I'd be fine and consider picking this up.

Unless I need to play competitive to unlock cars and options that is. That'd be a non-starter.

 

[FIREKNIGHT2029]

Guys, if you're playing it for the VR, be prepared for the disappointment. I tried it at E3 and it was one of the worst VR experiences I've ever had. No hyperbole here.

The graphics are downgraded significantly to the point where you see lots of jaggies on the screen. Also, the camera incorrectly can shift without your eyes in the corners at times. It's a total mess.

I'm trying to help y'all out by giving you the info. Please don't get hyped for the VR. I don't want you to get sad.

&#128560; This is disappointing to hear. GT is one of the main games that made me buy a PSVR. How bad are we talking about here? Is it comparable in any level to Driveclub VR? I love DCVR but it gets a lot of hate from the masses.

 

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[Kaji AF16]

Gran Turismo is the only franchise I really miss by not owning a Playstation; that said, what I have seen of GT Sport hasn´t impressed me yet. That short trailer looks sweet but it is an obvious exaggeration of the real experience.

Yamauchi created a legend but he has made some false promises ("down to the last bolt" mechanical damage). IMHO the series has lost the crown during the last decade, in part due to Polyphony´s extremely slow output and to Forza´s constant evolution.

An interesting year for racing games. As much as I love Forza, PCars 2 is the one I am intrigued the most about.

 

[cakely]

Is this game going to be $60 or $40?

You're on quite a roll, aren't you.

 

[dracula_x]

The lack of a real campaign is a total dealbreaker for me.

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Between now and launch you can expect to hear a lot more from the GT team, as we unveil more information on the many features included in Gran Turismo Sport, including the campaign mode, various creative tools, as well as a full reveal on all the cars and tracks you can look forward to racing on launch day!

 

[cakely]

Guys, if you're playing it for the VR, be prepared for the disappointment. I tried it at E3 and it was one of the worst VR experiences I've ever had. No hyperbole here.

The graphics are downgraded significantly to the point where you see lots of jaggies on the screen. Also, the camera incorrectly can shift without your eyes in the corners at times. It's a total mess.

I'm trying to help y'all out by giving you the info. Please don't get hyped for the VR. I don't want you to get sad.

Ok, thank you.

I've played DriveClub VR and was pretty unhappy with it. If GTS VR is a similar story, I know that I won't enjoy it.

Sigh.

 

[MCD250]

For folks who've been in the beta, how's the framerate so far? Stable?

 

[onemanasylum]

Ok, thank you.

I've played DriveClub VR and was pretty unhappy with it. If GTS VR is a similar story, I know that I won't enjoy it.

Sigh.

Dirt is fantastic....no idea why Drive club and GT seem to be so underwhelming...third parties supporting VR better then Sony is.

 

[PantsuJo]

I hope for a sufficient amount of single player content.

 

[AristoCat]

Game isn't for you then, this is about racing not car collecting. Much better imo, but to each their own. I cannot understand why anyone would prefer 1000 cars, with many duplicated and standards, plus a very dull SP mode full of bumper cars, but that's me. IMO, GT needed a restart, and number of cars doesn't make a game, id wager most players use a fraction of the entire car list.

Content is a lot more then cars/tracks...GT's car list was laughably poor, with too many duplicates and standards, Quality <> quality. I mean you cannot expect them to keep up what they were doing, it was a waste of time and resources to have 2000 + cars in the next GT.

Good for you then.

 

[Ammogeddon]

Yes! after initially being a bit disappointed with the beta I had another crack and have really enjoyed it. It's got me back into driving games again and can't wait.

I'm even thinking about getting a Thrustmaster T300 RS GT, which'll be my first ever racing wheel. Bloody expensive but its the way forward I reckon. Using it with my PSVR would be pretty cool too but I'm not overly bothered about it.

I would manage your expectations with the visuals. I'm sure the finished product will be a bit better than the beta but that trailer looks a bit too much of a leap. The photo mode bits are pretty bang on but the actual driving on tracks isn't. Nurburgring is pretty bland, the tree assets in particular. I'm playing on a pro with a 4K HDR TV. I would love to be proven wrong. If it does end up looking as good as the trailer I'll freak out but will be happy nonetheless.

 

[Bad_Boy]

i regret not buying that g29 driving wheel now for $199 during the prime sale

 

[ghibli99]

I hope for a sufficient amount of single player content.

Same here. That aside, I might have to buy this just for the pretties. This thing keeps looking better and better in every new trailer.

 

[thelastword]

2160cb 4k support? Hope it's not that shitty 1800cb.

1800CB is not shitty, so at what rez did you play your games before the PRO? Of course 2160CB will be a bit sharper, but if it starts losing frames, the conversation will then turn to...."I can't play this it's losing too many frames"...."GT can't even keep up a solid 60fps like the competition, ha ha ha"....

You also have to understand that GTS is not finished yet, they still have to put weather, different terrain that require more effects, mechanical damage and much more, they have to lmake some provisions for these extras....As it stands, at 1800CB, GTS run 60fps most of the time, but it had the odd 1-3 frame dips with an influx of cars, so it's still work in progress. It was a beta afterall...

If they do manage to iron out these minor dips in the polish phase and can shoot resolution up to 2160CB, that's be great, but only at a locked 60fps should they do so.

Not hyped , only 177 cars, when you just like to collect and drive them around isn't gonna cut it for me.

The crazy thing about that is that people hit PD hard because of the standard cars and I agreed...You don't need a 1000 cars in a racer, concentrate on asset quality, ai, sound, the campaign etc.....I'm also pretty sure that over time the car count will increase signiifcantly, but at the quality of each car model on display here, you're not going to get a huge car count on Day1. 177 seems pretty good to me. For reference what did the other racers launch with, Assetto, Forza, Project Cars, Dirt 4 etc...?

They upped multiplayer car count to 24 (was 20 previously).
http://www.gran-turismo.com/world/products/gtsport/

Nice, so improvements all the time. I expect lots of improvements and extras added in the polish phase after the beta ends.

 

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[DieH@rd]

For folks who've been in the beta, how's the framerate so far? Stable?

Very. Game looks awesome on the Pro.

 

[Gestault]

i regret not buying that g29 driving wheel now for $199 during the prime sale

You might need to adjust either braking thresholds in-game (super simple) or physically trim down the foam stopper built into the brake pedal, if my unit was any indication. They went a little overboard on that line trying to give the brakes a certain feel.

 

[NullPointer]

Forza is a terrible comparison right now, they went through what PD is going right now...two games ago. So now they have over 400 cars that would be considered premium level. Might even reach 500 (don't know) after all FM7 dlc.

FM7 launches with over 700 cars.

 

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[Drackhorn]

Pre-ordered.

This is going to be big in the EU.

 

[immortald3ath]

You're on quite a roll, aren't you.

No clue who you are or why you're so significant but thanks for answering the question.

 

[benzy]

Not terribly excited that the campaign looks more like an overhaul to the license test system than something more event based.

They could ditch it all and do a create-an-event though and I would be happy.

That sounds like arcade mode.

Arcade & Open Lobby
Enjoy quick and easy race customization
The Arcade mode where you can enjoy time trials and racing against the AI has gotten even better. Custom races have been added, allowing you to set your own rules

 

[Rymuth]

Nice

 

[Memento]

The box art is fucking incredible but then the giant PSVR icon kills it

FUCKERRRRRS

 

[Audioboxer]

FM7 launches with over 700 cars.

Meanwhile, PD wants to chase e-sports forgetting that it's shit like Rocket League that dominates Twitch/Youtube/MP events.... not in-depth car simulators with hours spent in menus tweaking cars like they're real. Or competitions where it's about taking pretty pictures of cars (not knocking photomode, but somewhat knocking photomode ~ It's amazing, but no, it should never be without a meaty game backing it)

A robust and feature-filled MP would be just fine, just like any other game.

Some of the things that end up being done with the GT engine are indeed impressive as fuck, but it's getting to a point, like my earlier ranting, where Kaz is going way off on tangents and forgetting a fucking huge part of his base are gamers. Not professional drivers.

 

[Gestault]

Forza is a terrible comparison right now, they went through what PD is going right now...two games ago. So now they have over 400 cars that would be considered premium level. Might even reach 500 (don't know) after all FM7 dlc.

FM7 launches with over 700 cars.

FM5 was a launch title in 2013 with just shy of 200 cars and 13 tracks, which became 14 tracks and over 200 cars after they added the free post-launch Nürb updates. I think it's fair to point out the major criticism then was the amount of content. That's not a flattering parallel, given the amount of solo content they've described here.

I have a feeling there's more "meat" to GTS than they're letting on, even aside from the online league events. If it's truly just the 177 car/17 track count here with minimal career play, a lot of everyday players won't be happy. That said, I can't imagine they don't already have a hopper of expansion content planned out for after launch.

 

[TTOOLL]

Time to finally buy a PRO.

 

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