Elegant Weapon
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Just thinking about how Peter is depicted these days; between being a corporate mascot in a constant state of arrested development and more focus on social demographics and representation, Peter really isn't much of an underdog these days is he?
Even the things the made him a underdog in the 60s, just aren't emphasized in the most modern versions of the character.
In Spider-Man: Homecoming, Peter Parker wasn't a social outcast. Sure, he's geeky/nerdy but that hasn't been inherent social suicide in real life for at least a decade. Flash is a dick to Peter, but it's not like the entire school tormented Parker along with Flash. If you only have one person who is a dickhead to you in life and other people usually defend you, you're doing pretty fucking good socially, trust me. In Homecoming, Peter seemed well liked and even had a best friend to confide his secrets in, something Peter Parker has never had in any other medium that I can remember.
And Maybe it was because he "interned" with Tony Stark, but Peter wasn't poor or consciously money strapped in Homecoming. He didn't display much if any emotional trauma from being an orphan or being raised by a single guardian or even show much guilt for his past mistakes like his own selfishness leading to the death of his other guardian. None of that was touched on.
It's pretty amazing(heh) that they consciously wrote Peter in this way. I wouldn't say 2017 Peter Parker has EVERYTHING going for him, but he certainly doesn't have as much against him as he used to.
I have to give it up to Raimi's Parker, the entire school bus including the driver laughed as missed Pete ran for the bus. Raimi's Parker was poor and got taken advantage of by his boss. He had bullies who were bigger than him try to beat him up. He carried hella guilt for his past mistakes. His best friend was rich, more traditionally cool/handsome and dated the woman Peter loved before he did. Peter also couldn't confide in Harry his secret ID.
Not one scene in Homecoming that I can remember where a peer besides Flash or MJ(who obviously has a crush on him) put Peter down for any reason like calling him skinny or short. Multiple girls like Peter despite him being a major flake.
I don't know y'all... I LOVE Spider-Man. The Ditko era. The Theme song. The Spider Buggy. Ben Reilly. The 90s Cartoon. Mark Millar's underrated Marvel Knights Spider-Man. Damn near everything Brain Bendis has done for the hero's world going beyond even the Peter Parker character.
But it really feels like the core of what I feel like the Spider-Man character should be about is far away from the character of Peter Parker in 2017.
He'll never be allowed to develop into the man who settles down & has a family of his own that I think he would be in the comics.
In tv/film he'll always be rebooted into a version of his original state but with enough creeping changes as not to tell the exact story in the exact way that we're losing the best parts of the character; the parts that separate him from the 20 other film/tv properties that get released every year about a white kid that goes on an amazing adventure of self discovery.
Peter Parker was the original hard luck hero but in 2017, he just isn't that anymore, is he?
Even the things the made him a underdog in the 60s, just aren't emphasized in the most modern versions of the character.
In Spider-Man: Homecoming, Peter Parker wasn't a social outcast. Sure, he's geeky/nerdy but that hasn't been inherent social suicide in real life for at least a decade. Flash is a dick to Peter, but it's not like the entire school tormented Parker along with Flash. If you only have one person who is a dickhead to you in life and other people usually defend you, you're doing pretty fucking good socially, trust me. In Homecoming, Peter seemed well liked and even had a best friend to confide his secrets in, something Peter Parker has never had in any other medium that I can remember.
And Maybe it was because he "interned" with Tony Stark, but Peter wasn't poor or consciously money strapped in Homecoming. He didn't display much if any emotional trauma from being an orphan or being raised by a single guardian or even show much guilt for his past mistakes like his own selfishness leading to the death of his other guardian. None of that was touched on.
It's pretty amazing(heh) that they consciously wrote Peter in this way. I wouldn't say 2017 Peter Parker has EVERYTHING going for him, but he certainly doesn't have as much against him as he used to.
I have to give it up to Raimi's Parker, the entire school bus including the driver laughed as missed Pete ran for the bus. Raimi's Parker was poor and got taken advantage of by his boss. He had bullies who were bigger than him try to beat him up. He carried hella guilt for his past mistakes. His best friend was rich, more traditionally cool/handsome and dated the woman Peter loved before he did. Peter also couldn't confide in Harry his secret ID.
Not one scene in Homecoming that I can remember where a peer besides Flash or MJ(who obviously has a crush on him) put Peter down for any reason like calling him skinny or short. Multiple girls like Peter despite him being a major flake.
I don't know y'all... I LOVE Spider-Man. The Ditko era. The Theme song. The Spider Buggy. Ben Reilly. The 90s Cartoon. Mark Millar's underrated Marvel Knights Spider-Man. Damn near everything Brain Bendis has done for the hero's world going beyond even the Peter Parker character.
But it really feels like the core of what I feel like the Spider-Man character should be about is far away from the character of Peter Parker in 2017.
He'll never be allowed to develop into the man who settles down & has a family of his own that I think he would be in the comics.
In tv/film he'll always be rebooted into a version of his original state but with enough creeping changes as not to tell the exact story in the exact way that we're losing the best parts of the character; the parts that separate him from the 20 other film/tv properties that get released every year about a white kid that goes on an amazing adventure of self discovery.
Peter Parker was the original hard luck hero but in 2017, he just isn't that anymore, is he?