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So, when do we expect SE to drop the silence on DQXI Switch?

As said before, likely when they talk about their plans for the west, so sometime this fall.

 

[Prophane33]

First Week Sales
Dragon Quest XI 2,099,203
Dragon Quest IX 2,343,440
Dragon Quest VIII 2.236.881
Dragon Quest VII 1,862,065
Dragon Quest VI 1,274,857


All would go on to sell more than 3 million copies (4 million in IX's case)

Loving XI so far (I went with 3DS), and I expect it to have great legs, as it's really fantastic.

 

[wrowa]

First Week Sales
Dragon Quest XI 2,099,203
Dragon Quest IX 2,343,440
Dragon Quest VIII 2.236.881
Dragon Quest VII 1,862,065
Dragon Quest VI 1,274,857


All would go on to sell more than 3 million copies (4 million in IX's case)

It's worth mentioning that DQVII was heavily supply constrained and sold another million in its second week.

 

[Lonely1]

So, do you guys think that SE will bother to localize DQXI 3DS? Since Ps4's is kinda obvious, we don't know anything about Switch and they very clearly avoided to mention platforms on the localization announcement.

Spring 2018, with a release in Fall 2018, is my guess.

Eh, not release date, but at least acknowledgement of it being a thing.

 

[MTC100]

90k Switch and 105k Splatoon? I'd have expected a somewhat softer drop for Splatoon considering the size of the new Switch shipment.

How so? The numbers suggest that every single new Switch owner bought Splatoon 2 too, as well as another 15k people that already own one and were a week late to the party.

I'm a bit worried about Breath of the Wild tanking with 90k new Switch owners, it lost to the last week and the last week was also a "-" to the prior week, even though there were almost 100k Switches sold...

 

[Prophane33]

It's worth mentioning that DQVII was heavily supply constrained and sold another million in its second week.

I should have remembered that! I couldn't get it the week it came out.

Edit:
DQ VII First three week numbers:
Week 1 1,862,065
Week 2 1,072,286
Week 3 329,317

Of course it would go on to sell 3,893,293

 

[sense]

quick, everyone predict OW for MHW so we can get this over with

I think mhw will do around 1 million and maybe even get close to 2 million by end of 2018. Now people can bring back this post up for the future

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

im surprised to see how DQ is so big over there

 

[lyrick]

I think mhw will do around 1 million and maybe even get close to 2 million by end of 2018. Now people can bring back this post up for the future

But will it open to over 1M? "Just saying "around" is way too nebulous.

 

[TheLegendaryN]

So, do you guys think that SE will bother to localize DQXI 3DS? Since Ps4's is kinda obvious, we don't know anything about Switch and they very clearly avoided to mention platforms on the localization announcement.

I really hope they will, but I'm not sure they will.

Eh, not release date, but at least acknowledgement of it being a thing.

I will be surprised if they mention it this year. That's why I said Spring 2018.

 

[Fularu]

The PSP also had a weird lifespan. So did the PS3 for that matter. MHP3rd was the culmination of everything the system was building towards through hardware revisions and games released.

Oh I know the PSP followed a weird sales curve but that feat can't be understated really. It was (and still is) prety impressive.

I wonder of the same would have happened had DQXI released in December (for both the 3DS and PS4)

 

[Vena]

I think Monster Hunter World will sell more PS4 consoles in its OW than DQXI did. Why? Because like I said already, DQ has had multiple titles with console bundles to attract DQ fans already. This is the first time Monster Hunter is making a big splash on the system. There will be MH fans wanting to play this game, so I wouldn't be surprised to see higher PS4 units sold in its opening week.

This is Capcom. They'll bungle it up somehow.

Whether that be with the announcement of Monster Hunter: Space Exploration Portable two months from launch, or by mismanaging their messaging (they're already doing a bang-up job of that with MHXX in the West), or fumbling on their marketing strategy.

Look at the state of MHXX even for just Japan and so recently:
"There won't be a demo."
...USFII report...
"There's a demo."

 

[KtSlime]

So, do you guys think that SE will bother to localize DQXI 3DS? Since Ps4's is kinda obvious, we don't know anything about Switch and they very clearly avoided to mention platforms on the localization announcement.

No, they will force NoA to split the cost, and they will.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

quick, everyone predict OW for MHW so we can get this over with

800k 1.4m Ltd

 

[sense]

But will it open to over 1M? "Just saying "around" is way too nebulous.

You know what? Yes open above 1 million

 

[L~A]

So, when do we expect SE to drop the silence on DQXI Switch?

TGS at the earliest (unlikely), around Jump Festa in December (more likely). Really depends on how early they want to talk about it, and how quickly they will be able to port it.

 

[Lonely1]

Look at the state of MHXX even for just Japan and so recently:
"There won't be a demo."
...USFII report...
"There's a demo."

"BTW, RE is coming too at an unspecified date! - Announced Trump Style"

 

[Chris1964]

 

[Prophane33]

You know what? Yes open above 1 million

Absolutely correct. There is a lot of positive buzz around MHW in Japan and it's a MH game. It's going to do 1M easy. Especially as it won't be split across two different SKUs like DQ XI.

 

[Fularu]

So, do you guys think that SE will bother to localize DQXI 3DS? Since Ps4's is kinda obvious, we don't know anything about Switch and they very clearly avoided to mention platforms on the localization announcement.



Eh, not release date, but at least acknowledgement of it being a thing.

It's the exact same script.

Unless Sony is handling the game's translation and distribution in the west, it would make absolutely no sense to skip the 3DS version.

Especially since the games haven't done anything meaningfull on non Nintendo hardware (with the sole exception of DQVIII and it could be argued the FFXII demo had something to do with that)

 

[noobie]

PS4 vs PS3 (byebye PS3)

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 178|   38.877|4.964.459|   36.218|4.971.488|         7.029|
| 179|   28.973|4.993.432|   30.878|5.002.366|         8.934|
| 180|   25.590|5.019.022|   93.356|5.095.722|        76.700|
| 181|   25.629|5.044.651|         |         |              |
| 182|   32.874|5.077.525|         |         |              |
| 183|   26.185|5.103.710|         |         |              |
| 184|   20.463|5.124.173|         |         |              |
| 185|   19.075|5.143.248|         |         |              |
| 186|   20.987|5.164.235|         |         |              |
| 187|   18.951|5.183.186|         |         |              |
| 188|   17.676|5.200.862|         |         |              |
| 189|   17.175|5.218.037|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Switch vs 3DS (almost there)

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  20|   22.943|1.211.278|   31.906|1.097.987|      -113.291|
|  21|   46.637|1.257.915|   98.999|1.196.986|       -60.929|
|  22|   31.826|1.289.741|   89.314|1.286.300|        -3.441|
|  23|   16.415|1.306.156|         |         |              |
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|         |         |              |
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|         |         |              |
|  26|  105.639|1.612.004|         |         |              |
|  27|   60.781|1.672.785|         |         |              |
|  28|   54.744|1.727.529|         |         |              |
|  29|   49.076|1.776.605|         |         |              |
|  30|   58.837|1.835.442|         |         |              |
|  31|   70.159|1.905.601|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

MK8 DX vs MK8

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   Mario Kart 8    |  Mario Kart 8 DX  |  Difference  | 
|    | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [NSW] (2017/04/28)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | MK8DX – MK8  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|  1 |  325.892|  325.892|  284.823|  284.823|       -41.069|
|  2 |   73.051|  398.943|   90.652|  375.475|       -23.468|
|  3 |   42.261|  441.205|   36.440|  411.915|       -29.290| 
|  4 |   28.112|  469.316|   28.781|  440.696|       -28.620| 
|  5 |   23.520|  492.837|   26.993|  467.689|       -25.148|  
|  6 |   19.386|  512.223|   20.984|  488.673|       -23.550|  
|  7 |   15.143|  527.366|   16.596|  505.270|       -22.096|  
|  8 |   14.992|  542.358|   16.822|  522.091|       -20.267|  
|  9 |   18.129|  560.487|   13.545|  535.636|       -24.851| 
| 10 |   18.067|  578.554|   14.423|  550.059|       -28.495| 
| 11 |   20.860|  599.414|   13.436|  563.495|       -35.919| 
| 12 |   28.221|  627.635|   11.554|  575.048|       -52.587| 
| 13 |   12.075|  639.710|   12.980|  588.028|       -51.682| 
| 14 |   11.148|  650.858|   13.841|  601.869|       -48.989|
| 15 |    8.221|  659.079|         |         |              |
| 16 |    6.839|  665.918|         |         |              |
| 17 |    6.396|  672.313|         |         |              |
| 18 |    5.936|  678.250|         |         |              |
| 19 |    4.517|  682.767|         |         |              |
| 20 |    3.996|  686.763|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Thank you for some very nice graphs and effort.

If its an excel file Can you share this data on google drive?

 

[frankie_baby]

So, do you guys think that SE will bother to localize DQXI 3DS? Since Ps4's is kinda obvious, we don't know anything about Switch and they very clearly avoided to mention platforms on the localization announcement.



Eh, not release date, but at least acknowledgement of it being a thing.

Is the 3ds script the same as ps4? Someone told me it was so if thats true thats a big chunk of localisation costs already covered then i guess it depends how well 3ds software contunues to sell later this year

 

[Kyoufu]

This is Capcom. They'll bungle it up somehow.

Whether that be with the announcement of Monster Hunter: Space Exploration Portable two months from launch, or by mismanaging their messaging (they're already doing a bang-up job of that with MHXX in the West), or fumbling on their marketing strategy.

Look at the state of MHXX even for just Japan and so recently:
"There won't be a demo."
...USFII report...
"There's a demo."

They said there won't be a demo? I thought it was obvious when they had the same demo as the 3DS version playable at the MH Finals tournament and then on Capcom TV.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Spring 2018, with a release in Fall 2018, is my guess.

Just cancel it then.

 

[Principate]

I think Monster Hunter World will sell more PS4 consoles in its OW than DQXI did. Why? Because like I said already, DQ has had multiple titles with console bundles to attract DQ fans already. This is the first time Monster Hunter is making a big splash on the system. There will be MH fans wanting to play this game, so I wouldn't be surprised to see higher PS4 units sold in its opening week.

Yeah I just don't think they'd be at the same as those on a handeld system when they first showed up. I mean the spin offs didn't do anywhere near as well as a mainline DQ when they released. A lot of these sales probably most didn't buy the ps4 specifically for dragon quest anyway were talk about 20% of the systems install base.

 

[Vena]

They said there won't be a demo? I thought it was obvious when they had the same demo as the 3DS version playable at the MH Finals tournament and then on Capcom TV.

First they said no demo.

Then shortly after the reporting period ended, they suddenly announced a demo.

Just as they suddenly announced RER 1+2 in a hurried attempt to have some more software available because they very obviously, at this point its hard to argue, had zero expectations or forward planning with regards to the Switch's performance. Like they didn't even make contingency plans, they're now just rushing out software.

 

[Prophane33]

Is the 3ds script the same as ps4? Someone told me it was so if thats true thats a big chunk of localisation costs already covered then i guess it depends how well 3ds software contunues to sell later this year

Mostly. The Yocchi village stuff isn't in there, and there's one part of the prologue that had some different dialogue due to the sections of the game being a bit different. However, I'd say 95% of the dialogue is the same.

 

[z0m3le]

Switch has no November title still, if I was Square Enix, I'd be doing everything I could to put DQ11 out in November on Switch, it's the biggest sales period of the year and SE can't be too far behind on the Switch version IMO. I'd expect to hear about it in September or very early October during the next big Direct which I suspect will detail fall games.

 

[KtSlime]

Is the 3ds script the same as ps4? Someone told me it was so if thats true thats a big chunk of localisation costs already covered then i guess it depends how well 3ds software contunues to sell later this year

Yes, it is exactly the same. But I think SE will get Nintendo to foot some of the bill anyway like they did with I think it was 8 for 3DS.

 

[frankie_baby]

Switch has no November title still, if I was Square Enix, I'd be doing everything I could to put DQ11 out in November on Switch, it's the biggest sales period of the year and SE can't be too far behind on the Switch version IMO. I'd expect to hear about it in September or very early October during the next big Direct which I suspect will detail fall games.

I'm suspecting an early next year release, feb or march

 

[redblack85]

Best week ever for hardware in Japan?

 

[L~A]

They said there won't be a demo? I thought it was obvious when they had the same demo as the 3DS version playable at the MH Finals tournament and then on Capcom TV.

Hmm? Today was the first day they showed the demo, previous episodes definitely was the actual game. Not that it matters much, a demo was indeed to be expected.

 

[BitStyle]

First they said no demo.

Then shortly after the reporting period ended, they suddenly announced a demo.

Just as they suddenly announced RER 1+2 in a hurried attempt to have some more software available because they very obviously, at this point its hard to argue, had zero expectations or forward planning with regards to the Switch's performance. Like they didn't even make contingency plans, they're now just rushing out software.

Yep, their change in tune was quite telling

 

[BadWolf]

Switch has no November title still, if I was Square Enix, I'd be doing everything I could to put DQ11 out in November on Switch, it's the biggest sales period of the year and SE can't be too far behind on the Switch version IMO. I'd expect to hear about it in September or very early October during the next big Direct which I suspect will detail fall games.

Would it even be that big of a deal at that point?

Most DQ fans will likely get their fill via PS4/3DS by then.

First they said no demo.

Then shortly after the reporting period ended, they suddenly announced a demo.

Just as they suddenly announced RER 1+2 in a hurried attempt to have some more software available because they very obviously, at this point its hard to argue, had zero expectations or forward planning with regards to the Switch's performance. Like they didn't even make contingency plans, they're now just rushing out software.

Nothing new for Capcom, the same thing happened to them with PS4/X1.

 

[ynwzh]

Cause Switch version is probably PS4 version, It would have stolen more sales from PS4 than 3DS and marked as a 3rd party game with good sale for Switch

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Best week ever for hardware in Japan?

not 'Ever'

maybe this year, best week this year so far

 

[Zedark]

Best week ever for hardware in Japan?

Ever? 3DS sold more during some weeks in its first holiday than the sum of 3DS + PS4 + Switch during this week.

 

[frankie_baby]

Yes, it is exactly the same. But I think SE will get Nintendo to foot some of the bill anyway like they did with I think it was 8 for 3DS.

Nah nintendo would only pony up if they werent bothering to release the ps4 version but we know that one is coming

 

[z0m3le]

I'm suspecting an early next year release, feb or march

from Square Enix's perspective, I just see that as throwing money away, the Switch is going to sell a lot more hardware units in november and december in japan then feb or march, so if they can, they will put it out in those months, especially since Mario is out in October and Nintendo has November oddly clear from any big releases.

 

[GregLombardi]

I think the gross revenue comparison on DQXI vs other entries would be a more relevant metric, no?

 

[Chris1964]

Best week ever for hardware in Japan?

You have very low expectations for Japan if you think this week is remotely close to the biggest one.

 

[TheMoon]

Animal Crossing went up again lol

it just won't stop selling.

 

[Pinky]

Excellent numbers for Nintendo, Sony and S-E!

 

[KillerMan91]

How many exclusive games does New 3DS have? One? Or DSi for that matter? GBC had over 400 exclusive retail releases and another similar number of Color enhanced cross gen games! To me it's ultra clear they were separate generations, while N3DS/DSi were positioned and marketed only as revisions, more like PS4 Pro.

And what is your source on GBC/GB Japanese numbers? The only one I have is Nintendo and they are combined.

Well New 3DS has more than 1 (quickly searching I came up with few). Of course nowhere near 400 (source for that?) as GameBoy Color but at which arbitrary number is enough to discount other but not other? Not to mention that by far biggest selling force behind GameBoy Color was Pokemon games that all but one (Crystal) worked also on original GameBoy. Then there is of course the fact that Nintendo themselves and all trackers count Gameboy Color sales as GameBoy sales so this argument is actually rather pointless.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

First they said no demo.

Then shortly after the reporting period ended, they suddenly announced a demo.

Just as they suddenly announced RER 1+2 in a hurried attempt to have some more software available because they very obviously, at this point its hard to argue, had zero expectations or forward planning with regards to the Switch's performance. Like they didn't even make contingency plans, they're now just rushing out software.

I would feel ashamed if I purchased Ultra Street Fighter 2, Capcom is really just trying to cash in at this point and really not thinking about Switch support

 

[z0m3le]

Would it even be that big of a deal at that point?

Most DQ fans will likely get their fill via PS4/3DS by then.

DQ has a market of nearly 5 million in japan alone if DQ9 is anything to go by, if Square is making the port, why wouldn't they want to put it out in November if they could?

 

[frankie_baby]

I wonder if nintendo might "save" MHXX with bundles, thanks to capcom being capcom its not tracking to sell well at all probably 100k week one at best, could nintendo maybe pump out 100k or so of bundles over a few weeks to bump it up? Give capcom a bit of good will with the rumoured "portable" game coming (which i could see being renamed 5 if/when world disapoints)

 

[Aostia]

Solid debut for DQXI, especially for DQ, even if I think SE management is really happy about the 3DS-too call.
GREAT response for the 3DS HW, on the other hand. Surprised by it. God HW numbers for PS4, even if I was expecting slighlty less from PS4 sw but slightly more by PS4 hw numbers.

Very solid hold for Splatoon 2, but WOW at Switch restock

 

[marmoka]

If only....

Sorry, I meant 20.000.

Already fixed.

 

[schuelma]

I wonder if nintendo might "save" MHXX with bundles, thanks to capcom being capcom its not tracking to sell well at all probably 100k week one at best, could nintendo maybe pump out 100k or so of bundles over a few weeks to bump it up? Give capcom a bit of good will with the rumoured "portable" game coming (which i could see being renamed 5 if/when world disapoints)

I got the impression when it was announced that the XX hardware bundle was extremely limited