Whenever I read your posts in this thread, this thread gets several times stupider.
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Whenever I read your posts in this thread, this thread gets several times stupider.
MHWorld seems to be redefining MH into a more modern game both visually and gameplay wise. Capcom seems fairly committed to it. I dont think they'll release "a new MH" for switch, more probable that they'll adapt MHW to switch eventually, sort of like MHP did with the original game.
If capcom markets the game well, they'll probably get a solid world wide hit on their hands. Going back to generations like assets and gameplay would a be solid regression on their part.
If capcom markets the game well, they'll probably get a solid world wide hit on their hands. Going back to generations like assets and gameplay would a be solid regression on their part.
TheLegendaryN
Member
That Ryuu ga Gotoku Studio presentation was awesome! The studio really delivers!
Yakuza/Ryuu ga Gotoku Kiwami 2 (PS4) - December 7, 2017
Yakuza/Ryuu ga Gotoku Online (smartphones/PC) - 2018
Hokuto ga Gotoku (PS4) - 2018
Yakuza/Ryuu ga Gotoku Kiwami 2 (PS4) - December 7, 2017
Yakuza/Ryuu ga Gotoku Online (smartphones/PC) - 2018
Hokuto ga Gotoku (PS4) - 2018
I find it weird that we have so much Monster Hunter or Dragon Quest discussion when these publishers are providing pretty much every relevant platform with love.
DQXI and MHW are the big homeconsole returns many players, especially in the west hoped for. Yet DQ has a 3DS version and there is a Switch version incoming...same with Capcom who dropped MHXX on Switch but will very likely have a 5th Gen Switch title to release as well after MHW is out.
I mean we know the outcome already....Switch is popular, the PS4 is popular and both systems are here to stay.
DQXI and MHW are the big homeconsole returns many players, especially in the west hoped for. Yet DQ has a 3DS version and there is a Switch version incoming...same with Capcom who dropped MHXX on Switch but will very likely have a 5th Gen Switch title to release as well after MHW is out.
I mean we know the outcome already....Switch is popular, the PS4 is popular and both systems are here to stay.
The original argument was how Capcom treated MHXX Switch and its timing and if that was the best, neither for MHXX 3DS nor MHW. For a company that goes from disappointment to disappointment with its decisions it's hard to believe this is one that inspires confidence.
And I thought that the serie may take a break after Yakuza 6's decline in sales. They're actually doubling down.
And yet no one has actually said that he is wrong. In fact those rebutting are showing that he is correct. Maybe I misread but he didn't assign a reason why the sales are that way. In fact his statement didn't have a negative or positive connotation.
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This is a flat-out lie against every facts. I don't know how you could believe otherwise, if you want a proof just check any of the past MC threads.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Well the series is betting bigger in Asia even if it lose some sales in Japan .
So i guess they have no problem with that .
I think he means that AzaK didn't mean his comment as "Switch demand is 25k a week" per se but could also mean "Switch supply has a 25k baseline". His original comment doesn't make this clear.
D.Lo
Member
Actually I see what he's saying, it's technically sort of true sometimes - because of stock.
If the implication is 20k is demand, that is flat out lies, but some weeks it does literally sell 20k.
You're right but considering the poster I highly doubt he was implying that lol.
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Bandai Namco just updated their Switch page to list Tales Of and Taiko no Tatsujin, seems like the announcement is coming soon. Direct or TGS ?
http://bandainamcoent.co.jp/cs_support/catalog/index.php?div=2&par=45
Credits to https://twitter.com/japanese3ds/status/901417171418578945
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Bandai Namco just updated their Switch page to list Tales Of and Taiko no Tatsujin, seems like the announcement is coming soon. Direct or TGS ?
http://bandainamcoent.co.jp/cs_support/catalog/index.php?div=2&par=45
Credits to https://twitter.com/japanese3ds/status/901417171418578945
TheLegendaryN
Member
Hero of Legend
Member
I have that page bookmarked, those two have been there for many months.
Damn, JapaneseNintendo failed me.
Yagami_Sama
Member
I was expecting that they will announce something for Nintendo Switch.This kind of disappointed me. Since they were on Switch reveal event.
I suspect the Wii U Yakuza 1+2 sales might have poisoned that well. They seem to do well with Sony.
Eolz
Member
Still bitter about how they didn't localize this in the west where it would have had a better chance.
Gotdatmoney
Member
If we count the weeks where no big game launched on Switch vs when one did launch you would probably have a 50/50 split of above and below 25k. And even then not counting the weeks big games launch is stupid given we know stock is being help back specifically for those launches.
Thr context of his post is obviously negative. Which is fine in itself. But it's not actually true. More like in the summer months switch stock has been poor.
You all expect Capcom to bring the MHW GaaS to Switch? The point always has been that MHW's business plan deviates in ways from previous MH entries that make a portable version unlikely to happen without significant changes.
I see no reason why you can't take much of the core mechanics and assets from World and adapt it. Makes a lot more sense than starting from scratch.
I meant what i wrote...there will be a 5th Gen MH title on Switch sooner or later.
He is not wrong, technically, but that is a not a good conclusion to make if you are trying to, say, gauge Switch's popularity or its growth.
LordRaptor
Member
I don't know what you'd call it, but a regular old portable monster hunter using World assets? That's what I would guess.
As far as I've seen, Bic Camera lottery information has ceased a few weeks ago, but I don't read every post every day, so I might have missed things. Outside GAF, the last (Kotaku lol) corrobarated report about people forming huge lines for Switch was mid July. Again, I miss a lot of things. Particularly I do not follow local Japanese news sites.
Posters in MC threads stating "It's supply constrained" every week is hard to miss, but there has to be more than that if you're going to argue the truth and facts angle. If the situation is so clear cut, there should be independent reports about it that would be easy enough to link.
Phife Dawg
Member
Since when is MHW gaas? DLC schemes etc. is not gaas and can easily be adopted for Switch. Also free DLC was announced the other day. Drop in drop out MP would work just the same on Switch too and MHW is not online only. If there is a Switch MH coming Capcom would be beyond stupid not to base it on MHW, so I guess it is highly likely in the end they don't, lol (just not due to "gaas").
Not that i disagree....but letting the WiiU performance of titles decide whether they are bothering with Switch or not doesnt seem that smart. But they seem to be fine with the copies they sell on PS4 - which is why they haven bothered with PC or ports to other systems.
Never change a working system.
If thats what Capcom wants to do on Switch with its MH title...yes. I dont know why you are acting as if constant DLC support is something new for MH titles...free support for months/year is a given. We have Splatoon, Arms, Rocket League, Minecraft, DQX etc. on Switch and you make it sound like Capcom would have to reinvent the wheel to bring something similar to Switch lol.
You mean, reports that it's supply constrained ? We get these practically every day. We also get Bic Camera lottery info every week thanks to Chris.
Minsc
Gold Member
I mean if you want the lazy route, I imagine going to Amazon or a few of the other online retailers and checking availability would suffice. If it wasn't supply constrained you'd be able to purchase it online for MSRP (currently it's selling for what looks to be ~$430, doesn't sound like something in ample supply to me, unless the regular price is significantly higher than the US, but I don't recall that being the case).
There was a report on the morning show Toku da ne! just 10 days ago about how difficult it is to get a Switch, obviously, even with our low standards as what counts as news, our morning shows don't have the luxury to do daily reports on the Switch availability. But, if you were curious, you could maybe follow BicCamera or Yodobashi on twitter to see if they are still doing lotteries (They are).
frankie_baby
Member
The RRP is cheaper in japan than it is in the US
Not really, if you happen to exchange your money at the right time and not pay taxes and work in a country that has a higher minimum wage then yes, but in reality, it's pretty close to the same price.
Capcom develops all the latest games with the premise that they 1) keep selling as catalog sales and 2) generate continuous additional income through DLC. MHW is a big budget MH entry fit to fill that same mold (and it has to for it not to become a financial disaster relative to the previous sales in Japan at the very least).
I don't know about online only, does it have local multiplayer?
You wrote they will bring a 5th gen MH title to Switch and HMW is that 5th gen MH title, do you expect them to downport that to Switch (like you previously indicated) or more of a spin off using the same assets etc.? MHW is no MMO with paid subscriptions so Capcom's motivation to downport MHW to Switch and continue to support it with everything home consoles/PC get might be pretty low. Giving Switch its own entry would only ensure a fragmentation of the userbase with unclear parameters (is it worth a bigger budget to hold its own next to MHW, would a traditionally lower budget still be sufficient to bring in the millions of sales portable versions generated?), something Capcom likely isn't too keen on when they plan with continuous income through DLC etc. on MHW.
frankie_baby
Member
Ok, i was under the impression it was about $280 but obviously currencies fluctuate
Eolz
Member
Wait, I can understand some other arguments, but what is the issue with GaaS on Switch? This is not the 3DS or Vita we're talking about.
Don't get me wrong, if you live outside of Japan, and are able to find a switch on an online Japanese retailer, you are probably able to get it for a better price than your country. But I think how many hours it takes to earn the amount of money to buy the product in your respective country is a better measure.
Sorry if I was quick to reply, I see that you were just giving some extra information to Minsc' message, I had a bit to drink and get tired of people saying how cheap consoles are here (I now realize you weren't doing that)
GaaS itself is not the problem, it's whether Capcom is prepared to continuously support a lower end system that Switch is relative to the home consoles and PC. If a Switch version deviates too much it may not be worth the cost for continuous support equal to the other platforms. If the Switch gets its own separate entry Capcom risks fragmenting the userbase to the detriment of what they expect of MHW.
frankie_baby
Member
What if though that switch version/game sells more than world though?
Yagami_Sama
Member
I was more thinking about what Nagoshi said during the Nintendo Switch reveal back in January and for that reason I was expecting some announcements for Switch, and ended disappointed.
That'd probably just a continuation of the apparent decade long misunderstanding of Capcom wanting MH be a successful franchise on home consoles while it kept selling gangbusters on portables. =D
I have no idea what Capcom would do then. Their handling of MHXX for Switch just tells me they have low expectations of Switch as a platform for MH so far.
Eolz
Member
You just said this...
... which is not the same argument you've just said now.
Everyone agrees that Capcom's management of the franchise is dumb right now.
If it's another version of the game, it'll be stupid and going back to the PSP era. If it's the same version of the game, there'll be some graphical compromises, but nothing indicates in terms of logistics that there would be an issue to do similar support (which you were implying).
test_account
XP-39C²
Fair point about the price. They could have priced it maybe 1000 yen more, that would bring in more money indeed.
I'm not sure if the transition is really needed in that large scale. I mean, it doesnt hurt, but is it expected that MHW will sell noticeably less because PS4 hasnt gotten a classic MH game before this? (MH Frontier exist on PS4). Personally, i dont think so. When it comes to big games like this, they got the sales potential on their own.
What would they need to adapt/make different?
So you do expect Capcom to bring the MHW GaaS to Switch? Previous portable versions successfully worked as mostly incremental updates that the userbase repeatedly bought into. MHW is so far announced more as a platform that will continuously get DLC and updates. Maybe Switch will indeed get the same MHW platform with no frictions for the userbase. I already wrote why I don't expect this and how that could become a big issue for Capcom.
Do we have concrete plans for MHW DLC beyond the free ones that previous entries also got? Btw, all the monthly content packs in previous games were not very significant, they usually added collaboration equipment which no one used beyond their cosmetic value.
Few of the upgrades for equipment were locked behind these DLCs but nothing significant like additional story or whatever.
I'm starting to think that MHW won't come to Switch and that Capcom is probably at the time not developing a MH game for Switch. I think they rather support MHW from the start with DLC and expansions rather than devoting resources to a handheld version. Kinda like they did with MH 3DS with no console MH
Hmm, Sofmap is under Bic Camera umbrella.
Bic Camera is very organised since Splatoon 2 launch with Twitter information for the winners, if Sofmap is the same and since lotteries don't look to end at least until holidays maybe I'll add their stores to the sample too.
frankie_baby
Member
Capcpom should know by now that sticking with just world will lose them at least 2.5million potential customers in japan, if there isnt a switch "back up" product in development the board need locking away a special hospital
Yeah, but it doesn't matter if they lose 2.5 million people in Japan if they gain more than 2.5 million outside of Japan.