Too bad it's digital for NA, I really don't like paying $40 for a digital release. Made an exception for SoM and now I've got a Randi PSN avatar to display until release. The artwork is fine, and about the level of detail I expect. Co-op on PS4 is a much bigger deal to me (never had the SNES multitap) with arranged soundtrack and (hopefully) bug fixes and QoL improvements.
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Secret of Mana Remake (PC/Vita/PS4, February 15th, 2018) Trailer
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Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Oh OK. I thought you might have been sarcastic since as far as I know ALBW has been well-received. But if people had a problem with how it looks compared to ALttP, I'm certainly with them.
All of that is true.
Still not as offensively bad as this remake. *shrugs*
Miniature Kaiju
Member
To make a food analogy, this SoM remake is, at worst, a bland soup; FF6 remake is a paella with prawns, carrots, eggs, banana peels, gummy bears and an assortment of insect parts.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
What's wrong with $40,Game short or something?
DonMigs85
Member
It's about 20 hours or so if you don't grind much. I'm OK with the price if it has a decent amount of effort
zeopower6
Member
I think people wanted it to be the price point of Adventures which was 15 or so. However, this has a complete rearrange of the OST and fully voiced in Japanese/English, so it makes sense it costs a bit more.
The Steam page probably is just echoing the main page.
Also the Japanese site emphasizes the new voices, complete rearrange of the OST supervised by Kikuta, and reproduced talk events.
We've seen like ten seconds of an in development flying sequence/main character sample and 5 screencaps and it's offensively bad? If anything the reaction you have to that little of the game is worse.
Professor Beef
Banned
if there's one constant on gaf, it's the always awful analogies
zeopower6
Member
I think that is a reason why most people misunderstand each other too, lol. The analogies don't really make sense. Either way though, this is much better looking than that VI 'remake'.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Nothing spectacular about the graphics. It looks low budget. I never played Secret of Mana, so no idea what to expect.
The pre-purchase dlc is cute haha.
Does this game play similar to Chrono Trigger?
The pre-purchase dlc is cute haha.
Might pick it up on Steam or PS4. I'm taking its only a digital release only right??Make sure to preorder for that... swimsuit DLC...
Does this game play similar to Chrono Trigger?
Professor Beef
Banned
Not at all. SoM is more of an action-RPG.
zeopower6
Member
For now, yes. The west is digital only while Japan gets physical PS4/Vita and digital with a CE as well.
dragonzdogma
Member
For now officiall?
Or there's still hope?
They normally don't announce preoder dlc unless both physical and digital are out right?
zeopower6
Member
Not official but I am curious if they'll do something like they did for Lost Sphear and a SE store limited edition.
Today I remembered the same negative response when Nintendo announced a sequel to Link to the Past and it looked like this:
Well... it was kind of a weak looking game. I don't really think people were wrong about those early criticisms; it's the kind of game you enjoy in spite of its humble visuals, not because of them. But it wasn't billed specifically as a remake and it wasn't released on the PS4. If ALBW hadn't been a new game but instead a straightforward remake of ALTTP and released on Switch this year with those same visuals, that would be more comparable.
Samus Returns is vaguely similar to this, where a 3D remake of a 2D game has underwhelming visuals, but that game was never remembered for strong art in the way this game was, plus they kind of led with the radical gameplay changes when announcing it. If they were going to go the budget route for this, they should have made the gameplay stuff known up front instead of just introducing it with some weak screenshots. It's kind of hard not to be disappointed when all we know about the game is that it looks like a budget mobile title.
Doesn't look /ugly/ but it's still clearly a downgrade coming from the original... Lame. I was happy I could play this "officially" at last but guess I'll pass.
Well, if anything it reminded me the original exists and I have yet to play it, so it's fine!
$40 digital only too... Haha, never change Square.
Well, if anything it reminded me the original exists and I have yet to play it, so it's fine!
$40 digital only too... Haha, never change Square.
MulderYuffie
Member
$40 digital? Yeah for sure waiting on a sale now.
Ragnorok64
Member
Hopefully this gets us closer to an official release of Seiken Densetsu 3 in the west.
Any idea of the JP physical release could contain both language tracks and translations? I'd feel better spending $40+ if I was able to actually own something for it.
Any idea of the JP physical release could contain both language tracks and translations? I'd feel better spending $40+ if I was able to actually own something for it.
dragonzdogma
Member
This. Can ps4 play jp games without a jp account.
the games allows online coop, right?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
The whalesong always makes me snicker.
I do like Ceremony tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSk_rwQz01s
I am pretty sure it will run good on it. Maybe even better than on the Vita.
zeopower6
Member
It's likely priced like this because of the full voice additions and rearranged score. If it were barebones it'd probably have been closer to the Adventures of Mana price of around 15-20 bucks. I'm kind of uncertain why people are complaining so heavily about this style. It literally looks like an SNES game in 3D. What happened before however was that when making Adventures of Mana they were debating to use 2D or 3D and settled on 3D for use in mobile along with using the assets for potential remakes of SD2 (this) and SD3.
PS4 can play most games unless they are locked. It's pretty rare that any are locked but it has happened. I suspect the Japanese version will have English voice/subtitles since the English digital version has the Japanese voice/subtitles.
From the Japanese site, the co-op for PC/PS4 is offline and for Vita it's ad hoc.
Argh, FromJapan couldn't place my order for the PS4 CE, only the PSV CE. Buyee cancelled my order for the PS4 CE claiming "There is a purchase quantity limit". What the heck is going on with this CE... Even Nin-Nin-Games is sold out. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
zeopower6
Member
Hmm, it's possible those retailers are being blocked off after buying for other people? Have you tried ZenMarket? It's possible SE only lets them get so many at a time.
zeopower6
Member
Then you won't ever be called. They decided against 2D a few years ago specifically because 3D would help facilitate future remakes.
Haven't tried them before, but will give it a shot. Thanks for the tip!
Exactly. Though I wouldn't even call SoM bland, just not fancy.
zeopower6
Member
I usually used FromJapan but ZenMarket was nice on the few occasions I used them for recently. Hopefully they can get you your order! If not, I think there are a few other places that do middleman services like Noppin or Shopping Mall Japan. I'd suggest Tenso too but I think they are the ones that run Buyee.
I think the best way to describe it is probably "simple". It's not really super detailed or anything but it's probably what it would've looked like had they had the chance to make the game with 3D assets back then. It's odd to see such criticism toward this though... what exactly did people expect? I kind of want to see examples of what they wanted to be done with this remake.
Professor Beef
Banned
people gotta be mad about something, i guess
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah, can't wait. I was really surprised to see this pop up in my youtube notifications when they posted the trailer out of nowhere.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I wonder if the game will now have an "Active" ATB mode where the item/magic selection menu doesn't pause the gameplay.
DonMigs85
Member
That made the boss fights really easy before, as long as you had enough faerie walnuts and leveled the spells enough
JayBabay
Member
It just could have been handled better, they could have invested more into it and gave it a look similar to Legend of Mana for example, which had a very distinct and artistic/painted look to it.
This doesn't look bad, it just looks very generic.
Hopefully. Hopefully a $40 digital-only visual downgrade doesn't sell too poorly and then squeenix consequently decide that the west doesn't like Seiken Densetsu
Skyfireblaze
Member
Oh god stay away with this song, as a kid I always played through these sections with the sound muted because it's so haunting
But at this point I want to link What The Forest Taught Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sajoxHWcr-I
Neo-Saiyan
Member
Watched the trailer on Steam and my first thought was what have they done to one of my fave games on the SNES?! Not digging the art style at all, I would of straight up settled for a HD version of the original.
Hoping SE localise the Secret of Mana collection for the Switch because this remake is a huge NOPE from me.
Hoping SE localise the Secret of Mana collection for the Switch because this remake is a huge NOPE from me.
texhnolyze
Banned
That one screenshot is my only hope for this remake.
Even though it's 3D, but if it still plays as the original, I'm in.