MetalliCabombination
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Science isnt far enough yet.
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Science isnt far enough yet.
boiled goose
good with gravy
I'll admit it, those numbers were a bit hyperboleBut i'm curious what people think could be done differently to really make a big difference, and what was expected if those things had been done.
So the game that opened at 84k would have more than quintupled it's sales and have a near 50 percent attach rate if it launched a few months earlier?
kuroneko0509
Member
revelation 1+2 will be the tiebreaker for cacpcom test
Not75Drops
Member
So DGS2 still hasn't passed the opening week sales of every other game in the series since Apollo Justice. Ouch...
test_account
XP-39C²
300k is technically possible i think. I think most have played it on 3DS though, so it depends on how many double dippers there are.
Hey, Knack had 100% attach rate FW!
If somehow these numbers are Capcom's official forecast, which is very doubtful, they are preparing for big underperformance with MHW and FY total software.
DAREALGUMMY
Member
Wonder if XX would do better here.
Splatoon can't be stopped.
Splatoon can't be stopped.
TheLegendaryN
Member
MHXX at 84k is low end, but not out of bounds with the expectations.
More Switch hardware is always great. Didn't expect a 60% (!!!) bump of Splatoon 2 tho! 1M now!
Does Nep VIIR have any new content for non-VR use? If not, then pretty damn good results.
I'm a bit disappointed with the Yomawari results. Guess NIS couldn't expand the game's audience with a multiplatform release. Both versions eat of the same pie. Maybe a Switch port could help it expand to the Nintendo audience, but this isn't looking good. Sad, because the first game was adorable.
Why is DQX PS4 still in the list?
One Piece lmao
The Lost Child lmao (from the creator of El Shaddai)
More Switch hardware is always great. Didn't expect a 60% (!!!) bump of Splatoon 2 tho! 1M now!
Does Nep VIIR have any new content for non-VR use? If not, then pretty damn good results.
I'm a bit disappointed with the Yomawari results. Guess NIS couldn't expand the game's audience with a multiplatform release. Both versions eat of the same pie. Maybe a Switch port could help it expand to the Nintendo audience, but this isn't looking good. Sad, because the first game was adorable.
Why is DQX PS4 still in the list?
One Piece lmao
The Lost Child lmao (from the creator of El Shaddai)
test_account
XP-39C²
What do you mean? I told you that those numbers were hyperbole. I'm curious to what people were expecting if things were done differently. I didnt make any predictions myself. Disregards the numbers i mentioned.
EDIT: Ah, maybe you quoted me right after i edited. I'll admit that i wasnt thinking about the userbase a few months ago, hence my edit. I still dont think userbase is the biggest factor for the lower sales though.
It's a late port of a Monster Hunter game that came out in March and already sold over a million copies. If Capcom had any foresight at all, and I have to stress that they don't, this should have been out near the launch of the Switch, if not day and date with the 3DS version.
Laplasakos
Member
First 1 on 1 SW vs PS4 battle, right?
Oh, you are right! Wonder if someone will make a thread.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Ayyyyy Lmao. If only there was another option 🤔
If they are real then I think Capcom won't announce MHW targets so they can put a positive spin on it. Sort of like they did Dragon's Dogma, even though it missed the announced targets.
Primethius
Banned
Doesn't seem like a bad result for MHXX given the circumstances.
test_account
XP-39C²
Making a PS4 port instead, prepping people for MHW.
If you believe these numbers for Switch you must believe the numbers for MHW too.
It's been a while, squid. You'll need to stay here a bit longer.
Anyone have an aligned DQ comparison handy? Still not sure what to think of DQXI legs.
I'm not sure what to think. The targets seem unbelievable but then it's Capcom.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Ayyy lmao. Certainly an inventive alternative. If it could only pull those numbers on Switch though not much hope for better on PS4. Userbase size isn't the limiting factor for a sub 100k performance.
If those targets were real they may be the most believeable goals Capcom has put out in ages.
That's how I know they're not real.
That would just eat into 3DS sales. What's the point? Even in hindsight I can't see a situation where they'd sell more units of the game had they released it on Switch as well in March. What was the Switch install base at in March or near March and why would you think they would have sold more copies of MHXX in total? Sure, you'd probably see slightly higher sales for the Switch version, but at the cost of reduced 3DS sales, so really, what's the point?
FreedomFighter
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-Splatoon finally on top of the DQs and hits a MILLION sold!
-Guess my prediction of 250k for MHXX Switch Ver. won't happen. Ah well.
-DQ almost at 3 million physical
-Breath of the Wild marching to 600k on Switch
-Dat Switch boost! But I won't get my hopes up cause it might be 22k again next week lol
-Guess my prediction of 250k for MHXX Switch Ver. won't happen. Ah well.
-DQ almost at 3 million physical
-Breath of the Wild marching to 600k on Switch
-Dat Switch boost! But I won't get my hopes up cause it might be 22k again next week lol
Laplasakos
Member
Seriously now? Where does this whole doom and gloom ends for MHW? I mean, most people in the MC threads called the game bomba right after the announcement, i guess that was their prediction but this has gone too far...
Can you people wait for the game to come out at least instead of saying how bad it will sell in every thread? It's getting really annoying and we passed the '' prediction time'' long time ago.
Jarod McChicken
Member
Outside of the obvious fact that the hype is around Monster Hunter World, if something hurted MHXX, looking at the software charts I would say it's Splatoon 2. This is the game Switch users want to play right now.
About One Piece, it's been a while that series needs a BIG project, and that's what Bandai Namco is doing now. Unlimited World Red is a fart in the wind.
About One Piece, it's been a while that series needs a BIG project, and that's what Bandai Namco is doing now. Unlimited World Red is a fart in the wind.
It will def. reach those targets since it will be the only MH game on Switch for a while....after the Holiday season it will probably be already there. But its not a new game, so i dont see why anyone would expect a massive FW.
I think it would have done better if it was out before the World announcement. Not like a ton better, but better.
Bigger issue is the lack of localization IMO. It could do pretty well this holiday I reckon.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Wonder if MHXX Japan sales will be enough to pass this new Capcom Test(TM). Probably not.
But the sales Capcom will get for the game can only be reflective on their decision to only release it in Japan, which by all accounts appears to be the weakest region for third party sales performance, relatively speaking.
Disgaea 5 Complete, of all games, had almost as many pre-orders in North America (78k), than day-one sales of MHXX (84k).
But the sales Capcom will get for the game can only be reflective on their decision to only release it in Japan, which by all accounts appears to be the weakest region for third party sales performance, relatively speaking.
Disgaea 5 Complete, of all games, had almost as many pre-orders in North America (78k), than day-one sales of MHXX (84k).
Why didn't Capcom announce targets then? For comparison they announced XX targets before the game itself was even announced.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, i agree. I was mostly just joking with that alternative
I dont think Capcom could have done things much differently that would have resulted in a lot more sales for the game overall. Releasing it earlier might have increased the sales some, but by a noticeably larger margin? I dont know. And i agree that userbase isnt that much of an issue either, indeed.I also think its possible that the Switch port being released later on could be due to human resources. That they didnt have enough staff to make the Switch port faster.
All my gaming is between Dragon Quest XI and Splatoon 2, so the results look good to me.
I still have never been able to get into a Monster Hunter, and if I were to try it out, it would probably be on PS4. There's too many games to care about a 3DS port right now.
Curious about Switch stock. Guess next big games are in the end of September? Perhaps low stock again until then, and then constant higher stock until January? I hope they have enough for December.
I still have never been able to get into a Monster Hunter, and if I were to try it out, it would probably be on PS4. There's too many games to care about a 3DS port right now.
Curious about Switch stock. Guess next big games are in the end of September? Perhaps low stock again until then, and then constant higher stock until January? I hope they have enough for December.
I would have to assume that the higher cost of the Switch version would do a lot of help offset the loss in hard unit sales that the 3DS version stood to face in the event of a simultaneous launch.
That being said, there was another option to take that I'm sure would have had the shareholders screaming at the top of their lungs if Capcom did this, but they could have also held off on releasing the 3DS version and had it launch at the same time as the Switch version this past week, being able to take advantage of the larger base the Switch has now. Again, this is a foresight issue and Capcom's got no one to blame but themselves.
What does World, a home console exclusive MonHun have to do with a portable console MonHun though?
MHXX reception wasn't so hot by fans in Japan (which isn't surprising given the many flaws of the game) so to be honest, the only thing that hurt MHXX's lower sales on 3DS and Switch was... MHXX.
I honestly don't understand this argument I keep seeing. You really think announcing the next mainline game in the franchise not for the system, and then heavily advertising the mainline game in the weeks before launch has no impact on Monster Hunter fans who might have jumped in if they thought the series was staying on Switch?
I know I know- home console games do not sell as well as portable games. But to then claim there is literally zero overlap and that there are basically 2 completely separate fanbases seems asinine.
Capcom : Hey, look at this new version of that game that was already a new version of that game that was a best-off of previous MonHun games, but now in HD !"
Customers : uh sure it looks okay I guess might give it a try until the next mainline game
Capcom : Speaking about mainline, here's the new exciting and hyping MH game that will release not too long after the one we announced one month ago
Customers : Great ! I'll buy this one then, it has all these new shiny stuff !
Capcom : Why nobody bought MHXXHD ? I really can't figure out.
Eolz
Member
Building a userbase for future versions on another, more modern platform ?
There would still have been the crossplatform multiplayer and save transfer. Same sales overall but with a different ratio would have been a lot more beneficial for them.
"Prediction time" changes as long as we get details and until a game is out.
It's the same for other games, don't see why it should be different for MHW...
Gotdatmoney
Member
Whenever we talk about what publishers could do to make their games sell better it's like we ignore that they control the media and the release date. Ways to increase MHXX HD sales.
1. Don't announce World before this launches
2. Simulateneous launch with the 3DS version
3. Position as title as intro to move MH on the platform
☆ Western release
Literally doing any of these things would yeild a better result. If you think a simultaneous release would take sales from the 3DS version Capcom can still sell it at a higher price for one and the cross play means that there is no downside to people who can't get their hands on a Switch still picking it up on 3DS.
Why does this port even exist is a better question? What is the purpose for Capcom's greater strategy?
1. Don't announce World before this launches
2. Simulateneous launch with the 3DS version
3. Position as title as intro to move MH on the platform
☆ Western release
Literally doing any of these things would yeild a better result. If you think a simultaneous release would take sales from the 3DS version Capcom can still sell it at a higher price for one and the cross play means that there is no downside to people who can't get their hands on a Switch still picking it up on 3DS.
Why does this port even exist is a better question? What is the purpose for Capcom's greater strategy?
If MHXX was worth jumping in for then
1) you would have seen higher sales on the 3DS in March
2) you would have seen higher sales on the Switch last week
I'd strongly advise looking at the quality of the title itself and pondering why it wasn't received as well as previous entries before World was announced.
That would be Capcom ultimate and final test for the Switch.