Media Create Sales: Week 34, 2017 (Aug 21 - Aug 27)

Not to distract too much from Monster Hunter, but I feel the need to note that Lineage II Revolution has had just as explosive a debut in Japan as its had elsewhere, starting at number 5 and going up steadily for over a week now, sitting solidly at #2. I feel this is noteworthy as it's a Korean game by a Korean publisher, and it's a full on MMO on mobile.

Rhythm games are also continuing their mobile strength with Prince of Tennis' Uta no Prince-sama rhythm game having a strong debut. This also plays like a regular rhythm game plus character scenes.

Things continue to centralize around pretty traditional games on mobile.
 
And now the MC thread is surprised MHXXNS didn't surpass 100k FW...
One poster dude. One poster.

I kinda don't blame Cpacom's hesitance on the Switch since pretty much everything they put out other than MH and PW on the 3DS was underwhelming in sales. Except SSF4 3D I guess.
So if you ignore Monster Hunter's success, it is understandable why they didn't put Monster Hunter on it.
 
ßig;247374593 said:
Does NBA 2K18 not count somehow, I caught you taking it out
That game is going to be weird since it's digital-exclusive on Switch, with the physical release coming out later. It'll be hard to get a sense of how it's doing initially.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Even without MHW ....XX wouldnt have set the world on fire on Switch - the game has been out for half a year on 3DS. This is essentially a GotY version of MHX - so the people picking it up now might have bought more or less the same game twice already.

They milked all there is to milk from the hardcore MH fanbase already. The first MHX/Gen was already marketed as a final conclusion to this generation....people were surprised when they announced MHXX on 3DS again and the lackluster sales compared to past MH 3DS titles confirmed it.

MHXX HD is free money for Capcom since it got the team familiar with the Switch hardware by porting a old game and will help them to figure out what they can do next on this hardware.
 
Switch vs 3DS (last day with this graph)

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|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|   87.798|1.436.031|       125.743|
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|   22.277|1.458.308|       -48.057|
|  26|  105.639|1.612.004|   69.654|1.527.962|       -84.042|
|  27|   60.781|1.672.785|         |         |              |
|  28|   54.744|1.727.529|         |         |              |
|  29|   49.076|1.776.605|         |         |              |
|  30|   58.837|1.835.442|         |         |              |
|  31|   70.159|1.905.601|         |         |              |
|  32|   58.504|1.964.105|         |         |              |
|  33|   53.540|2.017.645|         |         |              |
|  34|   55.025|2.072.670|         |         |              |
|  35|   73.933|2.146.603|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
From next week this will be the only graph for Switch:


PS4 vs PS3

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|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 182|   32.874|5.077.525|   42.462|5.191.123|       113.598|
| 183|   26.185|5.103.710|   34.688|5.225.811|       122.101|
| 184|   20.463|5.124.173|   24.658|5.250.469|       126.296|
| 185|   19.075|5.143.248|         |         |              |
| 186|   20.987|5.164.235|         |         |              |
| 187|   18.951|5.183.186|         |         |              |
| 188|   17.676|5.200.862|         |         |              |
| 189|   17.175|5.218.037|         |         |              |
| 190|   19.578|5.237.615|         |         |              |
| 191|   20.077|5.257.692|         |         |              |
| 192|   18.345|5.276.037|         |         |              |
| 193|   19.473|5.295.510|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
MK8 DX vs MK8

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|    |   Mario Kart 8    |  Mario Kart 8 DX  |  Difference  | 
|    | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [NSW] (2017/04/28)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | MK8DX – MK8  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
| 16 |    6.839|  665.918|   17.262|  632.894|       -33.024|
| 17 |    6.396|  672.313|   13.589|  646.483|       -25.830|
| 18 |    5.936|  678.250|   13.731|  660.214|       -18.036|
| 19 |    4.517|  682.767|         |         |              |
| 20 |    3.996|  686.763|         |         |              |
| 21 |    3.625|  690.387|         |         |              |
| 22 |    2.821|  693.208|         |         |              |
| 23 |    3.170|  696.378|         |         |              |
| 24 |    3.210|  699.588|         |         |              |
| 25 |   13.544|  713.132|         |         |              |
| 26 |    8.752|  721.884|         |         |              |
| 27 |   12.742|  734.626|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
Dragon Quest Comparison

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|    | Dragon Quest VIII |  Dragon Quest IX  |  Dragon Quest XI  | 
|    | [PS2]  2004/11/27 | [NDS]  2009/07/11 |[3DSPS4] 2017/07/29| 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|  1 |2.167.072|2.167.072|2.318.932|2.318.932|2.099.203|2.099.203| 
|  2 |  476.281|2.643.353|  612.671|2.931.603|  508.512|2.607.714|
|  3 |  203.618|2.846.971|  270.305|3.201.908|  207.762|2.815.476|
|  4 |  152.295|2.999.266|  179.612|3.381.520|  117.248|2.932.725|
|  5 |  104.211|3.103.477|  135.649|3.517.169|   52.746|2.985.469|
|  6 |   71.019|3.174.496|  126.682|3.643.851|         |         |
|  7 |   37.507|3.212.003|   79.103|3.722.954|         |         |
|  8 |   23.858|3.235.861|   71.318|3.794.272|         |         |
|  9 |        ?|        ?|   50.063|3.844.335|         |         |
| 10 |        ?|        ?|   36.877|3.881.212|         |         |
| 11 |        ?|        ?|   32.603|3.913.815|         |         |
| 12 |        ?|        ?|   30.086|3.943.901|         |         |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Year|   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   |   YTD   |   LTD   | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|   
|Total        -|3.319.607|        -|4.143.999|        -|2.985.469|      
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Not to distract too much from Monster Hunter, but I feel the need to note that Lineage II Revolution has had just as explosive a debut in Japan as its had elsewhere, starting at number 5 and going up steadily for over a week now, sitting solidly at #2. I feel this is noteworthy as it's basically seen as a Korean game by an effectively Korean publisher, and it's a full on MMO on mobile.

Rhythm games are also continuing their mobile strength with Prince of Tennis' rhythm game having a strong debut. This also plays like a regular rhythm game plus character scenes.

Things continue to centralize around pretty traditional games on mobile.
Summer is a dead time in gacha games (its why they release all these seasonal/swimsuit stuff).

I'd wait till fall hits.
 
Damn that's a huge attachment rate, where do you get the numbers from - it's going to be an interesting comparison to track.
From gamedatalibrary that has data that goes way back (awesome site). There isn't much of an race though. For as insane attach rate as 85% you usually need hardware that doesn't sell that well and game that sells really well. Splatoon 2 is similarly game that does really well but Switch sells too much hardware to have as insane attach ratio as Melee had with GC.
 
Summer is a dead time in gacha games (its why they release all these seasonal/swimsuit stuff).

I'd wait till fall hits.
Well, these things are still largely gacha games, they just play more like traditional games in gameplay.

Even the most relevant core consoles games are gacha games these days!
 

Crom

Junior Member
Looking at upcoming releases, Switch has at least one game every week until October (but nothing on very first week of October). Nothing too exciting, though. Expecting mediocre shipments until Pokkén Tournament DX.

August 31st

[Switch] Azure Striker Gunvolt: Striker Pack
[Switch] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon

September 7th

[Switch] Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2

September 14th

[Switch] Champion Jockey Special
[Switch] Winning Post 8 2017

September 21st

[Switch] Dragon Quest X

September 22nd

[Switch] Pokkén Tournament DX

September 28th

[Switch / New 3DS ] Fire Emblem Warriors
[Switch / New 3DS ] Fire Emblem Warriors Premium Box
[Switch / New 3DS ] Fire Emblem Warriors Treasure Box

September 29th

[Switch] FIFA 18
Damn You would think that they would space these out a tiny bit (especially if they don't have anything 1st week of Oct like you say)

September 21st

[Switch] Dragon Quest X

September 22nd

[Switch] Pokkén Tournament DX

September 28th

[Switch / New 3DS ] Fire Emblem Warriors

September 29th

[Switch] FIFA 18[/QUOTE]

Dragon Quest X (not a huge selling one but still), Pokken, Fire Emblem Warriors, and Fifa within 8 days of each other?
 
At least Switch had a good week. I never had high expectations for XX, although the last thread made me think my expectations were perhaps too low. Not that this result confirms they weren't yet :p.

It's pretty wild how much better Neptunia as a franchise is doing in the West.
IDK. I think there is a certain stereotypical "Japanese-ness" which has more currency in the west than it has in Japan.

What western audiences want in Japanese games is not the same as what Japanese audiences want; a game like Neptunia is targeted at hardcore/niche otaku audiences.

I usually think about this in regards to how disappointingly DQ does here :p. (i.e. a game that appeals to mainstream audiences in Japan but doesn't appeal to more mainstream audiences in the west than JRPG targeting niche audiences).
 
People seem to forget MHXX is a port of a game that's like 5 months old, which means it isn't even double dipping material. Not many people are willing to buy the exact same game twice in such a short time.

I expected sales to be a bit better but this isn't shocking.
 
From gamedatalibrary that has data that goes way back (awesome site). There isn't much of an race though. For as insane attach rate as 85% you usually need hardware that doesn't sell that well and game that sells really well. Splatoon 2 is similarly game that does really well but Switch sells too much hardware to have as insane attach ratio as Melee had with GC.
I don't know SSB had a very strong launch but after the holidays it eventually exited the charts. Melee had sold 1069K by it's 21st week at that point NGC was at 1299K, which is 82% attach rate when it exited the charts.
Splatoon 2 has it's first holiday in a few months - like I've said many times I do expect it to have an abnormally high attach rate close to those Melee numbers for the year. It's the main system seller in Japan and no game releasing this year will change this.
 
So Monster Hunter World is going to flop, but Monster Hunter XX flopped because Capcom announced Monster Hunter World and all the Monster Hunter fans are going to buy World instead.

...
Cherry-picking hyperbolic statements from multiple members and bundling them into a single line of thought then alleging it to be a popular sentiment.

...
 
I don't know SSB had a very strong launch but after the holidays it eventually exited the charts. Melee had sold 1069K by it's 21st week at that point NGC was at 1299K, which is 82% attach rate when it exited the charts.
Splatoon 2 has it's first holiday in a few months - like I've said many times I do expect it to have an abnormally high attach rate close to those Melee numbers for the year. It's the main system seller in Japan and no game releasing this year will change this.
I mean maybe at some point it can have comparable attach rate for a while to melee when you align the launches (personally I don't believe it will). Its final attach rate won't be even close though. Melee had final attach rate or 33%. If Switch sells like 3DS (about 25 million ltd) Splatoon 2 needs to sell over 8.2 million units to have same kind of attach rate.
 
So Monster Hunter World is going to flop, but Monster Hunter XX flopped because Capcom announced Monster Hunter World and all the Monster Hunter fans are going to buy World instead.

...
This sums up perfectly every MH discussion from the moment MHW was announced until today.
 
Not to distract too much from Monster Hunter, but I feel the need to note that Lineage II Revolution has had just as explosive a debut in Japan as its had elsewhere, starting at number 5 and going up steadily for over a week now, sitting solidly at #2. I feel this is noteworthy as it's basically seen as a Korean game by an effectively Korean publisher, and it's a full on MMO on mobile.
NCSoft right?
 
It really does, if you're a fan of over simplified, exaggerated, pithy statements.
No it doesn't; it's just convenient for you to think that.
All it says is you don't know what you're talking about.
or it's just a false narrative concocted from a bunch of disparate ideas slapped together without context in order to created a bullshit counter argument that is easily refuted.
Seems like a touched a nerve there. I never said that you were one of them he is refering too. I just stated my opinion on the matter. Am i allowed or not? I don't think i offended someone. Give me some time and i can post some enough posts to prove that what he claims is true.
 

BitStyle

Unconfirmed Member
Seems like a touched a nerve there. I never said that you were one of them he is refering too. I just stated my opinion on the matter. Am i allowed or not? I don't think i offended someone. Give me some time and i can post some enough posts to prove that what he claims is true.
Tbh when you generalize like this:
This sums up perfectly every MH discussion from the moment MHW was announced until today.
using "every" does not give off the impression you are talking about a few posters. Best to have examples ahead of time.
 
Expected a bit more from MHXX (like 100k) but this isn't surprising. 69k for Switch is pretty good and it's great to see Splatoon hit 1m on Media Create!

I really wonder what stock will be like in September. Maybe there will be boosts for Pokken and FEW. Also interested in seeing if MHXX has any legs.
 
Seems like a touched a nerve there. I never said that you were one of them he is refering too. I just stated my opinion on the matter. Am i allowed or not? I don't think i offended someone. Give me some time and i can post some enough posts to prove that what he claims is true.
Bullshit hot takes aside (and those that agree with them)

There are an absolute fuck-ton of reasons why this XX is performing worse than (MHG[wii]/MHF3HD/MH3G[wiu]), and Capcoms MHW focus (allong with its highly likely inability to sell in the realm of its Handheld predecessors ) is merely one bullet point in a larger field of this titles mismanagement.