CarpeDeezNutz
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I see you and other 40k fans post and it makes me want to get into it but I don't know where to start.
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Amazon CEO demands a 'Game of Thrones' style hit
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I see you and other 40k fans post and it makes me want to get into it but I don't know where to start.
What's the reason? Never seen the show but I've heard mostly negative things about it and very few positive things.
Considering how often they talk about how big his sword is it would feel strange to omit it.
RustyNails
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My pitch would be to base it on historical events and add your own flair, like BBC's The Last Kingdom. The setting would be 1400's Ottoman Empire and the Kingdom of Wallachia. There are so many ripe for TV characters. Sultan Mehmet II, Vlad Tepes, Radu the Handsome, etc. Focus on House Brasard/House Draculesti and how Vlad came to power, How Sultan came to power, etc.
If they're feeling adventurous, through in the Vampire elements. But base it in reality with real characters.
If they're feeling adventurous, through in the Vampire elements. But base it in reality with real characters.
michaelius
Banned
It also proven you need solid source material and established IP since it blown much bigger than any previous HBO show.
And here's the main problem - all the big ones are taken.
Do Berserk. The tragic reality that it hasn't had a high quality anime adaptation means that people would go nuts over a live action berserk adaptation that's done right. Give it a GoT budget and promote it right, pick the right directors and actors and it would reach GoT status.
secondspace
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The soap opera bit is the difficult thing to get right. I think we're going to get a lot of fantasy adaptations in the next few years, but it needs more than heroics and good versus evil to get the sort of huge appeal GoT has.
Wag
Member
Nah. Books of Magic. Harry Potter for adults.
I was going to mention Wheel of Time myself, but aren't the rights all locked up?
andythinkpad
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After reading the thread, making an honest to god faithful adaptation of book Dark Tower series is still the most likely to succeed.
Get someone who looks like Eastwood to play Roland.
Get someone who looks like Eastwood to play Roland.
Seriously, I'm actually surprised that hasn't been picked up yet. Outside of the slow pace of the first book, the trilogy and its standalone books are perfect for TV.
Last I heard that TV adaptation that would continue the movie was still planned but that might have them saving face since the movie tanked.
I mean a sword half or 1 3rd the size is still huge.
immortal-joe
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Have your original content available globally like Netflix does you twats.
Caddywompus
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Rome, Camelot, hell Netflix pours a ton of money into projects like The Get Down, Marco Polo and The Crown. Getting the right people on board is vastly more important than just throwing money into a "hit" project and there's still a ton of luck involved. If it were just a money issue to catch lightning in a bottle every network and streaming site would have its own GoT.
While I'd love to see it I'm not sure if the level of CGI is affordable. For the first season you can just spend all the budget on the finale, but after that...
Garrus Vakarian
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Definitely, it is such a fascinating setting, only question would be the style I suppose; whether you'd try and make things a bit fantastical or just have a recreation of life at the time.
RipperGrim
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A show based on Ed and Lorraine traveling around busting ghosts does have some potential to it.
IT really should have been a high budget series. Movies are just too short to ever really get the scope of the book and why it's so good.
Greigor The Fellhand
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You want a game of thrones killer?
Budget 90 mil per episode.
Battle episodes 160mil.
The horus heresy.
Budget 90 mil per episode.
Battle episodes 160mil.
The horus heresy.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
People distrust the government right now and they're big into nostalgia, so if you crunch the numbers you're looking at something like Close Encounters and The X-Files, possibly involving kids.
You should check it out, it's one of my favorite shows of all time. I think it had more to do with people being uncomfortable with it being pretty in your face about social justice issues, and the orgies.
It doesn't need an established IP, let's not pretend that GoT has hit some record for viewership besides on its own channel. Lost had a similar viewership and it was an entirely original IP. Amazon needs talent, it needs an excellent marketing campaign, and it needs a great idea. It doesn't need to be an adaptation.
UnemployedVillain
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I would watch the hell out of an alternate history where native Americans weren't destroyed and were able to progress uninhibited, or in tandem with Europeans in America, into the modern day/near future. A sort of NA-futurism
Corpsepyre
Banned
Well, I guess they can take a shot at Mistborn.
Do a Steven king show where every season is a different book and throw in random episodes based on his short stories.
I completely agree. I haven't found anything compelling from an Amazing original.
The Dark Elf Trilogy in particular has a lot of GoT style political shenanigans with rival houses and such. The Underdark is also more of a unique setting and would be pretty atmospheric if pulled off right. Unfortunately a lot cgi would be required and the Dark Elves would be difficult to pull off in live action. Hell most of the things in the Forgotten Realms and high fantasy settings in general would be difficult to do and would require a massive budget. I think that is one of the main reasons why fantasy hasn't really been a success on tv outside GoT. You need a lot of money to do it right.
As for Berserk. It hasn't even gotten a good adaptation in animation form. I don't see how a live action version would be faithful to the source material without a significantly bigger budget than what GoT has. Sequences like the
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Huw_Dawson
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I always thought The Elenium by David Eddings would make an excellent television series, but I suspect it does not have enough twists to keep the soap opera crowd happy.
Still waiting for The Black Company to be adapted. It would tick all your boxes Amazon.
Wag
Member
Going that route- how about a decent Riverworld series? There are so many things you could do with that.
Caddywompus
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I would love to see Amazon attempt some TV show based on an algorithm, it would be a glorious train wreck.
For starters, you need a series of books, written by an author who knows what he is doing, because we all know that show writers are like chickens without a head running aimlessly and throwing shit at the wall until something sticks.
And you'll need a lot of books if you want the show to last a few seasons, so they better had been released a couple of decades ago at least.
A series of books successful enough in the last couple of decades that are already popular between readers, but just don't have an adaptation yet.
I'd say Discworld, but the fact is that Discworld is 90% comedy and hits like this are about drama, blood and wieners.
And people would hate a western adaptation of Berserk.
Yeah I don't think you'll be getting anything like that anytime soon.
And you'll need a lot of books if you want the show to last a few seasons, so they better had been released a couple of decades ago at least.
A series of books successful enough in the last couple of decades that are already popular between readers, but just don't have an adaptation yet.
I'd say Discworld, but the fact is that Discworld is 90% comedy and hits like this are about drama, blood and wieners.
And people would hate a western adaptation of Berserk.
Yeah I don't think you'll be getting anything like that anytime soon.
quackamole
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Clueless. Every network wants their own GoT clone, and none of them understand why the show was so successful to begin with. You're six years too late.
The Book of the New Sun can't be adapted. The landscape and geography are so (ironically) alien that the entire series would require an Avatar-esque budget. Best fit for animation, if anything, but wherever it goes it loses the literary quality that made it so special to begin with.
PeskyToaster
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I think peoples noticed it right away but to me it was S1
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~ Zyzomys ~
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Sanderson has a number of series that could work and a Stormlight Archive series would be epic.
entremet
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It's not an impossible task but does require a lot of luck too. But can you blame every network for wanting a global hit? Nothing wrong with dreaming big dreams.
At the least, that would guarantee a decently written show with high production values.
melonrabbit
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I thought Man in the High Castle was doing okay for them. But yeah, I don't watch any of the Amazon originals. None of them have it.
I don't know if doing another fantasy series is the right call.
Would be down for another choronicals of prydian adaptation. But I think Disney has that on lock...
Look for a 90s nostalgic show to remake? Carmen Santiago?
That would afforable at least.
Only gifs.
I don't know if doing another fantasy series is the right call.
Would be down for another choronicals of prydian adaptation. But I think Disney has that on lock...
Look for a 90s nostalgic show to remake? Carmen Santiago?
That would afforable at least.
Only gifs.
I think after Game of Thrones, they could get people on board for a Rome remake/renewal. In a lot of ways Rome is what made GoT possible in the first place, so it would be nice if GoT could return the favor.
I wasn't denying there was luck involved, only that if you're insanely rich it's a pretty achievable goal, especially with Amazon's method of throwing out a dozen pilots and seeing which ones do the best.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Amazon's viewerbase is every Amazon Prime member, and a quick Google tells me that that's 80 million subscribers. I think Amazon may have an advantage over other streaming services.
andythinkpad
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Wag
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I bet most of those Prime subscribers have Netflix too. I rarely ever watch anything on Amazon Prime.
What are you talking about? Amazon spends almost twice what HBO does on original content, $4.5 billion. They are second only to Netflix. Netflix actually got scared and had to increase their spend in response to Amazon.
SofNasciment-
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I recall reading that HBO regreted cancelling that show. And I found Rome to be the only other TV series in the same level of Game of Thrones as far as production values and attention to detail is concerned.
HBO, or any other, should try to make a similar series but during the reign of Constantine or thereabout. It could be truly epic.