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PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream

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Vinc

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I feel like if this happened on TV, he would be fired. I don't get why things are different here. Whatever platform he was streaming on should ban him, ESPECIALLY given his large following.

The whole second-language defense thing I half-understand where it's coming from, but it sure as hell isn't a defense fot this, as a non-native speaker myself, I recognize that it's easier for the wrong word to slip out. That's something that I struggled with myself. The thing is, the words I would default to due to lack of vocabulary or inability to find words were certainly not such words. I would say "and stuff" too much, or sometimes default to basic expletives. But in this case, it basically speaks volumes to the kind of childish person he is. It's only a defense for the freudian slip, not for the term that actually slipped out. Unfortunately, expletives are often used as a replacement for other words, so when learning a language, it can become something you lean on. However, there's certainly a huge freaking difference in letting an expletive go at an inappropriate time, and blurting out the n-word at all, so it's not at all a good defense here. This suggests it's a word he often defaults to or uses, and how is that in any way ok?
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Yeah, I never advocate for being PC but this is inexcusable. I don't see how anyone could so casually throw an N bomb out like that unless they're a genuinely shitty person. It's even worse that he's a public figure targeted at kids and should be making a concerted effort to have a filter.
Defending or attempting to excuse shit like that should be an instant permanent ban in my honest opinion. Regardless of whether or not they have a cute little tag.
 
Unfortunately far too many people, especially younger gamers, use that word commonly whether as a slur or just as a sign of frustration. As such, I don't know if he will see as precipitous a sub drop off as he deserves unless a lot of parents go out of their way to prevent their kids from watching him - and I don't think that's going to happen in large numbers.

Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

trixx

Member
So Europeans are now defining what words are offensive and not? A word negatively associated to persons of African descent perpetuated by their people

Lol, fuck off
 

Lucifon

Junior Member
Reading the title and some comments I came in here expecting an over reaction (the Internet is good at that). The word is thrown around in all forms of media like it's meaningless. Importantly to me personally for a term like this it's not what word is used but how a word is used.

But then I watched the video. There's no denying the way he used the phrase and that really sucks in just a downright disappointing way. It was pretty obviously used in a negative manner that it's arguably indefensible. I guess we'll see where this goes :(
 

Bold One

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Well, that is a rational reaction. Take away his livelihood, because he said a word.

you gotta be kidding me

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PR_rambo

Banned
I fucking can not stand this fuck or the people who just respond " durr it's a word, it's on the internet, why u care tho?"

Not to mention the "Why can't WE say it?"
 
Yeah, there's no explaining this one. If you're frustrated and that's the first word that comes to your mind you're a complete piece of shit. Fuck this guy.
 
Comedians like Paul F Tompkins are joining the conversation, love it.

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That's amazing.

As for this incident. I was wary of the accusations when they happened the last time but this couldn't get any clearer. People who use these sort of insults so casually, to the point that they can 'slip out' in the heat of a moment while streaming, are racists.

I'm honestly surprised by the number of account suicides. Like, didn't expect him to have so many diehard fans (or fellow racists) here, though I guess it makes sense with his huge subscriber count.
 

Htown

STOP SHITTING ON MY MOTHER'S HEADSTONE
This is exactly why people outside of America don't think that word is racist or at least knows why it's a very bad word to use, it being overused in American shows, series, music, movies and it's often said casually without any issue.

ps : not trying to defend pewdiepie here, just arguing about this.

so you think that people would hear the word, which is apparently all over American entertainment, never look it up to see what it means, and then start using it as an insult by pure coincidence even though it's supposedly not presented as a bad word in the first place?

is that what you're going with here?
 

danm999

Member
Watching the vid he immediately subs the word asshole in when he realises he fucked up.

If you're making the "Euro didn't know" defence after that it just seems like you want excuses to use the word.
 

Fj0823

Member
I made the best decision of my life when I told my little brother he could not watch YouTubers. (I'm also his godfather)

Now he actually plays games instead of listening to racist clowns like JonTron and PDP
 

Aselith

Member
So Europeans are now defining what words are offensive and not? A word negatively associated to persons of African descent perpetuated by their people

Lol, fuck off

Actually many Europeans have come in here to say that it's not ok in their country. All the people coming in here saying Europeans may not see it as offensive are Americans trying to excuse the behavior

"Ignorance not Hate"
 

HiiiLife

Member
You've met Darryl Somers?

Nah. I just work with Aussies, and have seen an Australian I follow on social media pull the same thing (who I no longer follow).

But back to topic. Fuck this dude and anybody trying to defend it. "Overreacting" over the N word. Lol.
 

erlim

yes, that talented of a member
It's really angering to head off gaf for a minute and realize the rest of the social internet is passionately defending him, demanding he not apologize, and rallying behind the idea that his conduct is reasonable.

In a way, his actions have a more resounding effect than their initial intent because it creates a dramatic effect of people fighting hard to regularize and defend the use of racial terms.

He's kind of beyond celebrity in a way---he has a very real and direct influence over his fans and he is immune to the controversy that would bring a lot of famous non new media people down.
 

Armaros

Member
The pure Irony of this is his defenders trying to say that the N-word is just a word so don't get outraged.

And yet they don't want people to call PDP a racist.

It's just a word and yet defense force?
 
You'd be surprised. I've met Australians who think blackface isn't racist.

There are all kinds of things considered racist around the world I don't know about, but if it was brought to my attention that I said or did something believed to be racist by a segment of the word I would be mortified. Hopefully I wouldn't be judged too harshly for not knowing.

I can understand how Australians wouldn't understand Blackface if that wasn't a cultural touchstone for racism in their country, but I also would hope it wouldn't continue to be a joke.

Sorry for the tangent.
 

Bulby

Member
Would love the WSJ to come after him again. He was so indignant last time. Doesnt have a leg to stand on now.

Mind boggling thing to do or say.
 
Its concerning how many white people think its ok to tell me that I shouldn't be offended by this word. Like they have a say it in, they are the authority on whether its considered racist or not, us brown/black people are just being overly sensitive. Stop with the defense force bullshit this isn't ok.
 
Actually many Europeans have come in here to say that it's not ok in their country. All the people coming in here saying Europeans may not see it as offensive are Americans trying to excuse the behavior

"Ignorance not Hate"
That's a lie.

In every thread relating to racism or other -isms, you always have the Euro posters come in the thread and shitpost about how Euro minorities don't have to worry about a damn thing and how it's soooo much better than America
 

KillGore

Member
Sometimes I wonder if he does this for the clicks. I don't watch PDP and only hear about him when he does things like this. First he promised he would delete his account after X amount of subs, then the whole jew thing and now the nigger thing.
 
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