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PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream
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Bobo Dakes
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It's sad because this is a genuine inquiry. I think it's a bit late. You just have that collective group of young teens and adults that think they're being funny and ironic or that it doesn't really count when they say it.
Rushersauce
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One thing I love about these kind of threads is all those closeted racist/apologist coming out and getting banned.
LOVELY.
LOVELY.
Widdle Puppy
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Has anyone with a large following spoke up yet?
Thanks guys, this is encouraging. I just don't want a repeat of the gamergate women harassment stuff which took forever for many of the big websites like IGN to even acknowledge.
Ghostmaster
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Dude, the first post of mine you quoted is as clear as it gets on what I think about Jim and what it proves.
King Tubby
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The answer to his question is that he totally can, too. Because nothing will happen. Nobody will even hear him.
Also why is he so concerned about being able to call people "niggers" in online multiplayer?
Pewdiepie streams to hundreds of thousands/millions of people.
Most gamers are out to rationalize and defend PDP because they already do the same shit online.
Adam Sessler on Twitter. Paul F. Tompkins's response on twitter was p funny.
I think the worst thing is that the responses in his defense from YouTuberanto followers etc is showing that his behavior is being normalized. These idiots defending him aren't alt right or nazis but it's bad because they are growing up apathetic to all this and are going to turn a blind eye to racism
"It's just words. Words are words. Don't give them power"
"It's just words. Words are words. Don't give them power"
Kotaku, Polygon, GameSpot all have stories and it's Sunday night.
It is. He's making fun of that boogie guy who does the "both sides" bullshit.
Brian_FETO
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I'm a bit confused by some of the reactions here to Jim Sterling's tweet.... "Liability" isn't a solely monetary term
Regarding the initial offense by PDP: fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this guy
Regarding the initial offense by PDP: fuuuuuuuuuuuuck this guy
ScientificPizza
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seeing PFT dunk on that idiot was amazing
Game Informer too
Also Waypoint will almost definitely have an article/podcast about it tomorrow considering Patrick and Austin have both tweeted about it
Novel Mike
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I know people here hate him but Totalbiscuit did. https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/906963527444951041
Hes been talking about it all day as well as the actual legality of lets plays with the guys behind Fire watch taking down PDP's videos of that game.
Dark Ninja
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Didnt realize there is two of these threads. Anybody have a list of streamers who are racists or have said anything racist so I can unfollow them.
What?
His first response to PewDiePie and the rest of his ilk was this: "Youtubers Say The Darnest Things."
Ghostmaster
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The reason why it has so much power is beacause it has been used for so long and in such a hurtful way. You can't just erase that.
Gentleman Jack
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It doesn't help that it was the verbal kick in the teeth given to people who have been subjugated as less than human for several centuries.
So yes people have given the word power. But probably not the people you are implying with this post.
The word has that amount of impact because of its insanely bleak historical context. You can't just erase that.
Same exact wording? That's scary.
ScientificPizza
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Yeah if only there was a reason the word has so much impact
My quote on Jim wasn't an attack by any means.
It was the broader context. I'm sure we'll see more youtubers coming out against him since he IS fucking with their money.
King Tubby
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What other word in the English language has as much historical baggage and negative associations?
ScientificPizza
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The first response to this particular incident. It's important to stand up to it every time it happens.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Because that tweet is following other tweets from youtubers like TB worrying this is going to effect them financially, so "liability" is easy to read as being along those lines. It's also much easier to see how PDP is a liability to people financially than in other ways.
Jangowuzhere
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Does Jim really have to spell it out for everyone that he dislikes racists and such?
He's been doing that for several years now.
Aizo
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Show me the Sess, please.
Bobo Dakes
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And when I see that, it honestly just makes me want to give up.
It wouldn't have nearly as much power if people stopped using it in a derogatory manner.
Hundreds of years of racism don't just go away overnight. A lot of it is still here, both directly and indirectly.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
I googled liability
li·a·bil·i·ty
noun
1.
the state of being responsible for something, especially by law.
"the partners accept unlimited liability for any risks they undertake"
2.
a person or thing whose presence or behavior is likely to cause embarrassment or put one at a disadvantage.
"he has become a political liability"
I was a little confused too at first but Jim's tweet checks out.
But they say racist things while playing games all the time, so it's ok for PDP to say racist things while playing games. It just game banter.
Oh no, PDP is being called a racist. But if if he's a racist for game banter, then they are racists too, just no one ever calls them out.
No no, it's the people calling PDP racist that are wrong. They are just sensitive little snowflakes. They're not racist right... /S
Who are these "people" you speak of?
Gentleman Jack
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This news is eight hours old and it's Sunday.
Suburban Thug
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Guarantee that fool wouldn't go up to a group of blacks and call them that. These people clearly know the difference between right and wrong; they just don't care and try to hide under a guise of innocent ignorance.
My question as well but I think we both know that poster is referring to people with dark skin and liberals. Pretty annoying this "don't give the word power" sentiment is a thing here. They've clearly never been discriminated against or called a slur out of pure hatred. Makes me upset that some can't look beyond their own limited perspective.
"Hey kids: Unless you're quoting Huckleberry Finn that word doesn't stand stand up in context. Stop rationalizing. Stop it.
Adam"
https://twitter.com/adamsessler/status/907034416169529345
Ghostmaster
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Also the word itself has no power at all, it's the hatred and malice and kicking to the curb that is behind it.
A common word like "jew" can have the same amount of "power" depending on who and how they use it.
A common word like "jew" can have the same amount of "power" depending on who and how they use it.
ScientificPizza
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Okay? What's your point
Literally all I said was Jim's tweet was bad lol
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying when you choose to approach the situation from "this could be bad for us" instead of "this is a terrible thing he did" that that's a bad first response and gives a bad impression
please remember that this user thinks that black people make too big a deal out of representation before you respon--aw fuck
Patterbits
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I read a comment earlier on Reddit that really put my existence into perspective. It was something along the lines of:
Man, I could have been born 50 years in the future and be an explorer on Mars or some shit, but instead, I gotta live now and watch people defend the casual use of the word nigger.
Man, I could have been born 50 years in the future and be an explorer on Mars or some shit, but instead, I gotta live now and watch people defend the casual use of the word nigger.
Brian_FETO
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Fair enough. I can't say I've really seen that sort of thing (I even saw Jim's tweet here first). But reading that on its own came off as "this person is bringing down our industry as a whole" vs. "he is costing us all money"
Yep
Strazyplus
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I watched https://oddshot.tv/s/g_05U6, not a sub or like his content. his Nazi jokes did seem always seem to be in a joking context (that I saw), this does not mean they were good or not over used.(one video that I saw was enough) use of racist slang did seem brought on an 'oops' reaction from him (from the linked video context). of the little I have seen of pewds does not paint him as a blatant racist to me but I could be wrong.
Unpopular opinion but I doubt he is really a racist or nazi. is he funny? my thought is no.
not really sure if worth to be so worked up over it.
does not mean what happened okay? likely not but do not let someone online rule your day.
Unpopular opinion but I doubt he is really a racist or nazi. is he funny? my thought is no.
not really sure if worth to be so worked up over it.
does not mean what happened okay? likely not but do not let someone online rule your day.
Do you think he doesn't take issue with it otherwise?
Does Austin Walker or any other notably progressive writer need to preface every reactionary tweet to racism within games with "Hey guys, racism is bad. To further elaborate..."
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