Yea it's still Witwer. He's voicing Maul in the multiplayer as well, reprising the role from Clone Wars.
He's also the one that talked DICE into using the Dee Bradley Baker for the Clone Troopers.
You see that right there? That's awesome.
Yea it's still Witwer. He's voicing Maul in the multiplayer as well, reprising the role from Clone Wars.
He's also the one that talked DICE into using the Dee Bradley Baker for the Clone Troopers.
The main problem with CGI Tarkin in Rogue One, in my opinion, was that they over did the little facial tics Peter Cushing had and the end result was that it pushed the entire thing into uncanny valley territory.
I was always under the impression that, by Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Vader was the #2 guy in The Empire behind only the Emperor himself. In A New Hope, Tarkin orders Vader around and the other generals openly mock Vader a bit. But after that we never see anyone order Vader around anymore, everyone answers to Vader, and Vader only answers to the Emperor directly.
Others would know Star Wars canon better than I, but if I understand correctly, the Emperor was a revered leader to those loyal to the Empire (and even to general citizens of the Empire, whether they suffer oppression under Empire occupation or thrive in the Empire's version of an economy or just skate by as an under-controlled planet, manipulation of the narrative maintains the Emperor to be the leader they need despite the dark times ... unaware of who has brought down upon them the dark times.) His death was a major event for the entire galaxy.
Darth Vader, however, is just an enforcer. A big-time enforcer, but he walks the galleys of the Death Star and boards ships in raiding parties with fellow troopers. Grand Moff Tarkin bosses him around. Awareness of his "ancient religion" has dissipated over time as the Jedi were stomped out; whatever magical forces were discovered became channeled through technology into weapons, leaving troopers with the same curiosity over how the Death Star murders planets as how their blaster fires laser bolts or how an Inquisitor's laser sword deflects attacks (perhaps there's even a theory among the ranks for how "Vader's glove" throws soldiers around or chokes commanders?) The Emperor is an exalted leader in a private castle somewhere whose presence would be unexpected even on the "ultimate power in the universe", whereas Vader regularly shows up for construction inspection.
Would Inferno Squad have known Vader? I would assume so (the books and eventually the game probably confirm that?), and maybe they even respect/revere him as a leader and conqueror. But in the grand scheme of things, the death of the grand Emperor and the fall of their entire Empire was more than enough grief to process at that time.
Once again, the campaign's not made by DICE but by Motive, a new studio headed by Jade Raymond.
Actually, it's the Aftermath books you're looking for.
Yeah it helps with the cohesiveness of the Star Wars brand and definitely helps bring it in line with the Clone Wars droid voices also being included. That's why it doesn't bother me, and as a fan of the show I still enjoy the way things turned out.Well Morrison is still playing Fett so both actors get to shine.
Personally, I liked Baker at lot more as the Clones, but I enjoyed Clone Wars much more than any of the prequels.
In Legends Vader was well respected among the Stormtrooper corps for being a commander who fought along side the grunts, not sure if they've maintained this in the new canon as I'm not caught up on all the books. However, in the new comics he's been seen to kill a Stormtrooper who sees his face after his helmet gets damaged and in another instance he picked up some troopers with the Force and uses them to shield himself.Would Inferno Squad have known Vader? I would assume so (the books and eventually the game probably confirm that?), and maybe they even respect/revere him as a leader and conqueror.
Yeah it helps with the cohesiveness of the Star Wars brand and definitely helps bring it in line with the Clone Wars droid voices also being included. That's why it doesn't bother me, and as a fan of the show I still enjoy the way things turned out.
"You are not verified". Probably the first step towards pissing of the main character. Watch Iden join the rebels by the end of the story. Star Wars in a nutshell.
I'm hoping we come across him as Iden and see whether or not he's idolized or generally feared. And since we know she confronts Luke at some point and will most likely meet Kylo we'd have a character that comes across all 3 generations of Skywalkers!
Isn't the game entirely post ROTJ? Vader would be dead
More or less. But I wouldn't say they openly mock him, just one officer gets a little ballsy while disagreeing with him and Vader quickly puts him in his place.I was always under the impression that, by Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Vader was the #2 guy in The Empire behind only the Emperor himself. In A New Hope, Tarkin orders Vader around and the other generals openly mock Vader a bit. But after that we never see anyone order Vader around anymore, everyone answers to Vader, and Vader only answers to the Emperor directly.
Just wanted to add that Palpatine, Vader, and Tarkin formed a sort of unofficial triumvirate as mentioned in the novel Tarkin and even by the time of A New Hope, prior to the destruction of the Death Star, there wasn't anyone officially above Vader other than Palpatine. Before being appointed as Grand Moff, when Tarkin and Vader were assigned to work together, Tarkin himself is unsure of whether or not he's in charge of Vader and how the latter would react if he was to try to order him around. At some point Tarkin had deduced Vader was Anakin but kept it to himself, and the two already shared a deep respect for each other during the Clone Wars, he was probably the closest thing Vader had to a friend (though still far from it) in the whole galaxy. This along with his rank is probably the real reason we see Tarkin being able to reel Vader back in, Tarkin knew Vader was a Sith Lord and what he was capable of, I don't think he would have raised his voice at him on the Death Star otherwise.This is the case and the 2015 Vader comic explores that particular subject.
During the Dark Times, Vader was basically a myth or legend among the Imperial bureaucracy and forces. You generally didn't meet him unless you were important, on a special mission, or were going to die, because Palpatine used him as his enforcer and head of the Inquisitorius. As the rebellion ramped up Vader became more prominent, leading pacification campaigns (on Kashyyyk for example), but he was always outside the official hierarchy (hence why Motti talks back to him).
After the destruction of the Death Star and the Cymoon-1 facility, Sheev demotes Vader to punish him and puts him under Grand General Tagge's command, purposefully fostering a rivalry between him and Dr. Cylo as well who is working on various cyborg experiments to try to surpass Vader. Vader ultimately foils a usurpation attempt by Cylo and proves his worth, so Palpatine allows him to kill Tagge and take his spot as the head of the military, which makes him de facto #2 in the Empire (Mas Amedda is de jure #2).
Before anyone goes "LOL DICE CAMPAIGN LOL", the campaign is being developed by Motive, not DICE.
Its a new studio. Helmed by Jade Raymond (executive producer on Assassin's Creed 2 and Brotherhood) and written by Walt Williams (Spec Ops: The Line) and Mitch Dyer.And what have they done exactly that points to them being a solid choice to develop a worthy single player campaign?
They don't seem to have any credits to their name before this game....at least not on Wikipedia.
And what have they done exactly that points to them being a solid choice to develop a worthy single player campaign?
They don't seem to have any credits to their name before this game....at least not on Wikipedia.
Its a new studio. Helmed by Jade Raymond (executive producer on Assassin's Creed 2 and Brotherhood) and written by Walt Williams (Spec Ops: The Line) and Mitch Dyer.
So a new studio staffed by seasoned and competent developers.
Will probably ignore it like every other DICE game.
Yes, Cinder is part of the larger Contingency, and basically serves the purpose ofjust wrecking shit to make the Empire and as much of the NR as possible fall apart, so Rax can "purify" the Imperial forces before escaping into the Unknown Regions. Jakku is the final part of the plan because the supercomputer that Palpatine used to calculate Thrawn's data for a safe passage into the UR is there, and Rax was initially trying to blow up the planet to wipe out most Imp and NR forces before escaping, but Sloane killed him, prevented the explosion, and escaped to form the FO.
Cinder is basically Sheev going "If I'm dead, you all deserve to die too."
And imitation Emperor is worst Emperor.
Dialogue is yikes. "Hope." *smirks* And imitation Emperor is worst Emperor.
Still interested in whether or not this reveals anything about the formation of the First Order. I know the Aftermath trilogy touched on it, but I can't be bothered with them.
Leans too hard into mustache-twirling villainy. Feels fake. Corny. Kasdan is one of the only writers in Star Wars who can tow that line without crossing into parody.The dialogue seemed fine? What was wrong with it?
I truly hope the single player does not become a Nazi empathy practice mode. We already have enough Neo Nazi supporters in the gaming space to "educate" us on their thoughts. I don't think I want to pay 60 dollars for another nazism experience.
I was always under the impression that, by Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, Vader was the #2 guy in The Empire behind only the Emperor himself. In A New Hope, Tarkin orders Vader around and the other generals openly mock Vader a bit. But after that we never see anyone order Vader around anymore, everyone answers to Vader, and Vader only answers to the Emperor directly.
I would say Vader's ascension to clear 2nd in command status was dictated by the public's reaction to him back in 1977. For the same reason Boba Fett is a cult favorite when he was originally a throwaway villain that was given a silly death, Vader's story and overall relevance ( right down to his connection to Luke and Leia) was pretty much 'on the fly' storytelling as the series grew in pop culture status. Ditto for making him 'force Jesus' in the PT, and having the galaxy revolve around him.
Yes they have. Logan's head and upper body during the car chase and forest run were CGI.They haven't achieved 100% parity with real actors yet but I thought Tarkin looked pretty convincing.
There are still shades of uncanny valley in the performance but we've come a long and way and getting closer all the time to being able to generate CG humans who look and act like the real thing.
As if the story won't eventually have a moment where she realizes she's working for the baddies and thus betrays the empire. Probably after meeting Luke.I truly hope the single player does not become a Nazi empathy practice mode. We already have enough Neo Nazi supporters in the gaming space to "educate" us on their thoughts. I don't think I want to pay 60 dollars for another nazism experience.
Not even remotely correct.
So that was all ordained in the stars as far back as 77 eh? Ok. If you have some info in that regard that I may be unaware of, in the name of good discussion providing it as opposed to a dismissive drive-by would be nice.
Just watch or read any of the dozens of interviews or documentaries GL has taken part in.
I would say Vader's ascension to clear 2nd in command status was dictated by the public's reaction to him back in 1977.
To a degree. In A New Hope, Vader was who we identified as the bad guy among bad guys, but ultimately he was just the masked demon (as fans back then, we didn't ask "who" was in the mask, we just wanted to know what hideous face was locked under there.) He did kill Obi-Wan, though, and was known as the monster who killed Luke's father, and also was the only baddie we know who survived the Death Star, so he wasn't a misplaced "phantom menace," he was our idea of the enemy. By the time of the sequels, Lucas had more story to tell of him and so we see him more in charge, answering only the Emperor.
Lucas talks a lot of guff about what "had always been the plan" for Star Wars, and if you read script drafts or look at concept art you can see how much was solidly thought out versus what (if any) was just somewhere in the brain stew, but Vader was always the big bad our heroes would deal with in the end.
Interesting. Ok, and on the note of Luke and Leia, was Luke being Vader's son( and Leia being revealed as Luke's sister in ROTJ) in the cards when the first move hit? Or were those subplots added in after the fact once Star Wars was proven a hit? I've always thought it was the latter, and I've read( though not recently) conflicting stories on that. The original is quite clearly self-contained, with the potential to go forward if it didn't flop on its face.
Interesting. Ok, and on the note of Luke and Leia, was Luke being Vader's son( and Leia being revealed as Luke's sister in ROTJ) in the cards when the first move hit? Or were those subplots added in after the fact once Star Wars was proven a hit? I've always thought it was the latter, and I've read( though not recently) conflicting stories on that. The original is quite clearly self-contained, with the potential to go forward if it didn't flop on its face.
Thank you for this, because that was exactly my first thought. Will keep a more open mind now.Before anyone goes "LOL DICE CAMPAIGN LOL", the campaign is being developed by Motive, not DICE.
Not always. As I understand it, Lucas had initially conceived of all of those as separate characters. Ie, Anakin and Vader were fellow pupils of Obi-Wan, Luke's sister was not Leia at all but someone hidden on the other side of the galaxy. The sister stuff was only resolved for ROTJ, while the problem Lucas had when it came to ESB, he just couldn't find a way to make Luke's father work in a way that was satisfying - presumably because as yet one more mentor character for Luke, in a film where Yoda was already being introduced, he probably came off as utterly unnecessary. Yet it's hard to just excise the concept of Luke's father when that's one of the primary motivations for the character's journey to becoming a Jedi. While Vader stood well as a menacing villain, but lacked any particular connection to the cast - it could work functionally, but it meant there was less substance to the overall confrontation between him and Luke. Merging the two killed two birds with one stone - lose the redundancy, gain the most iconic scene in cinema.
Lucas' original broader ideas for Star Wars as a single movie were split into three as they were developed. It's also probably part of the reason you have the Death Star at the end of the first film and the end of the trilogy as a whole.
But ideas were introduced along the way or reworked. Luke's sister was supposed to be someone else entirely. The third film wasn't really supposed to be what it was, and rumors are that it was supposed to solely be a chase to find Han Solo and little-to-none of the Emperor stuff. It maybe explains why the first third of Return of the Jedi is so wildly divorced from everything else in that movie. It's also why you sometimes hear talk that there was supposed to be a 7, 8, 9 that continued on and brought us back around to the finale we're mostly familiar with.
But it's hard to know how much of that was true at all.
In Legends Vader was well respected among the Stormtrooper corps for being a commander who fought along side the grunts, not sure if they've maintained this in the new canon as I'm not caught up on all the books. However, in the new comics he's been seen to kill a Stormtrooper who sees his face after his helmet gets damaged and in another instance he picked up some troopers with the Force and uses them to shield himself.
This is getting ridiculously stupid. People just don't read anymore.
The whole having a massive contingency plan and operation cinder stuff was so out of character for Palpatine.