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[Fox318]

If a score of children killed at Sandy Hook couldn't get people to budge on gun control, then this won't either.

People like those of the NRA are just willing to accept a certain number of dead children and adults for the sake of their hobby.

"This is the price of freedom," Bill O'Reilly

"It will never change because i'm too afraid of the long path needed to get that change."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8

As long as people think their 6 shooter is going to be the thing that prevents the Mexicans from invading nothing will happen.

I get where you're coming from, but the NRA's grip on America is relatively new. They shifted the discourse gradually over the last three decades, and the discourse can be shifted back. The tobacco industry used to be in their position, but years of activism have beaten them back.

It's not a given that things will get better. That requires work from well-meaning people. But the idea that we're locked into this fate is historically short-sighted - and honestly underselling the mutability of human life.

Tobacco didn't have any linking to the Bill of Rights.

 

[perfectchaos007]

It's even more sad when it's in a place you know and grow up in.

Kimmel has cried twice this year for his monologue, this year man.

damn. First his newborn had to go through a heart condition and now his hometown has this tragedy. Rough

 

[whytemyke]

We're the only first world country where this kinda stuff happens on a regular basis

Late night monologues? I mean, I get Graham Norton isn't for everyone but let's not be monsters here.

 

[random25]

Gun ban in the US is long overdue.

But of course people there love their guns and the money off the guns so it's not happening anytime soon.

 

[Demoskinos]

I don't think we need to outright ban "assault weapons". AR's have always been legal in Canada. But they have a vetting process to be able to purchase them. That sounds reasonable. As long as Republicans have control, I don't see that happening though.

Please explain to me any reason why a private citizen needs to be able to own something like an AR-15. Because nobody does. There are zero reasons.

Personally I'd like just all guns to be banned but I know that is probably unreasonable as long as the 2nd amendment is a thing.

I can see provisions for Hunting Rifles and Hand Guns but Assault Rifles? Like come the fuck on. Nobody needs to own one of those.

 

[Gutek]

I don't think we need to outright ban "assault weapons". AR's have always been legal in Canada. But they have a vetting process to be able to purchase them. That sounds reasonable. As long as Republicans have control, I don't see that happening though.

Why would anyone need an AR, though?

 

[ChainedMaster]

Please explain to me any reason why a private citizen needs to be able to own something like an AR-15. Because nobody does. There are zero reasons.

Personally I'd like just all guns to be banned but I know that is probably unreasonable as long as the 2nd amendment is a thing.

I can see provisions for Hunting Rifles and Hand Guns but Assault Rifles? Like come the fuck on. Nobody needs to own one of those.

Well, it's been working in Canada. Semiautomatic rifles are often used for hunting, sport, and self-defense. I'm not saying anyone needs one. I'm saying I feel Canada's gun control is adequate.

 

[chefbags]

Please explain to me any reason why a private citizen needs to be able to own something like an AR-15. Because nobody does. There are zero reasons.

Personally I'd like just all guns to be banned but I know that is probably unreasonable as long as the 2nd amendment is a thing.

I can see provisions for Hunting Rifles and Hand Guns but Assault Rifles? Like come the fuck on. Nobody needs to own one of those.

Yep I agree with that too. They are ridiculous for people to own.

 

[Fox318]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxCy0wj4uw

Conan also talked about it.

 

[Pattycakes]

Colbert did a little pre episode thing talking about it then jumped into his normal show

 

[Fox318]

They.

Vote.

It isn't Fox News. It is the fact that they fucking vote, unlike the young dipshits of America.

The young are becoming the old.

 

[Dice//]

Kimmel's got a big heart.

 

[outunderthestars]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfxCy0wj4uw

Conan also talked about it.

Colbert did a little pre episode thing talking about it then jumped into his normal show

The young are becoming the old.

Preaching to the choir. We will feel shitty for a day or two, share a social media meme, and forget in a few days.

They will donate to o the NRA, write their Congressman, and show up at meetings, and vote.

We consistently lose because deep down we don't really care enough to force change.

 

[FreezerGeezer]

Preaching to the choir. We will feel shitty for a day or two, share a social media meme, and forget in a few days.

They will donate to o the NRA, write their Congressman, and show up at meetings, and vote.

We consistently lose because deep down we don't really care enough to force change.

Seems that way to an outsider.

 

[timetokill]

They.

Vote.

It isn't Fox News. It is the fact that they fucking vote, unlike the young dipshits of America.

Voting increasingly doesn't matter in this country.

Wisconsin: "...in November 2012, Republicans won only 47 percent of the vote but 60 of 99 seats in the Assembly. In the midterm year of 2014, they won 57 percent of the Assembly vote and 63 seats, and in 2016, they won about 53 percent of the Assembly vote and 64 seats."

 

[Alastor3]

I usually don't really like Jimmy but damn, this is heartbreaking

 

[Vincent Alexander]

If gun laws change before I die, I will die happy.

 

[Painguy]

Hey all. Not really posting here to debate, but I wanted to provide you all with the contact info of Senator Dean Heller(R-NV) who has routinely voted against biils that would enact various forms of gun control. I called and left like a 5 sec message.

Contact info for his various offices. Please be nice about it.

Las Vegas

8930 West Sunset Road
Suite 230
Las Vegas, NV 89148
Phone: 702-388-6605
Fax: 702-388-6501

Reno

Bruce Thompson Federal Building
400 S. Virginia Street, Suite 738
Reno, NV 89501
Phone: 775-686-5770
Fax: 775- 686-5729

Washington, DC

324 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6244
Fax: 202-228-6753

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Gun laws won’t help if we can’t stop illegal guns and parts from flowing into the country. America isn’t an island like Britain, New Zealand, and Australia and with our southern border unable to keep entire human beings from crossing without our knowing I don’t see how we expect to keep firearms or their parts from coming across. This issue is crazy tough to fix

 

[Quixzlizx]

Gun laws won’t help if we can’t stop illegal guns and parts from flowing into the country. America isn’t an island like Britain, New Zealand, and Australia and with our southern border unable to keep entire human beings from crossing without our knowing I don’t see how we expect to keep firearms or their parts from coming across. This issue is crazy tough to fix

Uhh... the guns are flowing from the United States to Mexico, not the other way around.

We're getting drugs from them.

 

[Baraka Obama]

It's not Fox News. You can see how people take up, spread, and believe false news on Facebook. The problem is that a large part of the nation wants to be lied to.

Fox News/News Corp absolutely have a lot to do with the conservative propaganda machine that perpetuates all these issues in this country.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Uhh... the guns are flowing from the United States to Mexico, not the other way around.

We're getting drugs from them.

Well the point about it being easy for guns and their parts to cross the border stands. I’m sure if laws create the demand the supply will change directions

 

[white dynamite]

Here's Colbert speaking about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaxAsHhex10

 

[Starfish Hero]

We couldn't change the gun laws when a guy shot up elementary school kids. I hate being a cynic, but too many people in this country value a gun over people's lives for anything to change any time soon.

 

[7he Talon]

Good on Jimmy for using his platform to call for action in light of a devastating event.

 

[Quixzlizx]

Well the point about it being easy for guns and their parts to cross the border stands. I’m sure if laws create the demand the supply will change directions

The gun manufacturers are in the United States. Nobody is talking about banning and confiscating all guns.

Your point is nonsensical.

 

[SuperStiltzkin]

Just heard his monologue on TV. Was a really great call to action that goes above "Our hearts go out the families and friends affected by this tragedy."

 

[Angelus Errare]

this is foolish. history is chockfull of people like you saying this who are proven wrong time and time again

I mean it's only changed once...and that was because a bunch of black folks dared to open carry.

So really the only way it's going to change is if PoC walk around in arms. And really we shouldn't have to sacrifice ourselves to put enough fear into white folks into passing reforms.

 

[Jimrpg]

Come on Americans, listen to Jimmy.

 

[The Mule]

This is the line to get into a Vegas Gun Show.

I thought just struck me... there hasn't ever been a mass-shooting at one of these gun shows, has there? Doesn't that seem odd?

You'd think with the sheer number of people and all the guns and ammo right there, that there would have been a few incidences by now?

 

[HardRojo]

Fuck the NRA, fuck gun rights activists, fuck the second amendment. America has a serious issue with guns and a borderline insane love for them, the change needs to start somewhere, and if it does now maybe results will be apparent in a couple of decades, but at least there will be something positive, so unless the US starts getting their shit together in this regard, this will keep happening and the same idiotic "There's nothing we can do about it" excuse will prevent shit from being done.
This situation is so fucking messed up.

 

[The Faceless Master]

the only way they change gun laws is if a group of black men go around to lamaze classes shooting pregnant women in the stomach talking about forced abortions.

basically, it won't change.

after Sandy Hook, why are there any doubters?

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

The gun manufacturers are in the United States. Nobody is talking about banning and confiscating all guns.

Your point is nonsensical.

But even banning specific types would still have them available. I mean didn’t this guy illegally modify his to be fully automatic?

 

[M52B28]

the only way they change gun laws is if a group of black men go around to lamaze classes shooting pregnant women in the stomach talking about forced abortions.

basically, it won't change.

after Sandy Hook, why are there any doubters?

Lmao. Well said.

 

[dark_quota]

I thought just struck me... there hasn't ever been a mass-shooting at one of these gun shows, has there? Doesn't that seem odd?

You'd think with the sheer number of people and all the guns and ammo right there, that there would have been a few incidences by now?

Why would anyone open fire on a large group of people with readily available access to guns?

 

[Luminaire]

This is hard to watch. You can see it in his eyes how much it hurts.

But to be mildly positive, he looks damn good with a beard.

 

[zeemumu]

I thought just struck me... there hasn't ever been a mass-shooting at one of these gun shows, has there? Doesn't that seem odd?

You'd think with the sheer number of people and all the guns and ammo right there, that there would have been a few incidences by now?

Not really. They want large crowds of unarmed citizens so they can kill more before the cops show up. If you did that at a gun show, you'd be dead long before the cops ever showed up (if they weren't already there) since the vendors and a sizeable percentage of the crowd are likely armed.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

This is hard to watch. You can see it in his eyes how much it hurts.

But to be mildly positive, he looks damn good with a beard.

I wish Conan would bring back his beard

 

[Subpar Spatula]

But even banning specific types would still have them available. I mean didn’t this guy illegally modify his to be fully automatic?

A lot of reasonable countries have regulations and bans on weaponry.

The United States isn't some special country where gun regulation won't work.

Stop drinking the kool-aid.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Not really. They want large crowds of unarmed citizens so they can kill more before the cops show up. If you did that at a gun show, you'd be dead long before the cops ever showed up (if they weren't already there) since the vendors and a sizeable percentage of the crowd are likely armed.

Eh it wouldn't be that simple. Everyone is armed trying to shoot this guy...that's A LOT of stray bullets hitting other people who panick and in turn blind fire themselves, who hit someone who in turn...blind fires themselves, others hear the shooting, panic pull out their gun because they gotta defend themselves.

It'd be a blood bath.

 

[SlickShoesRUCrazy]

The young are becoming the old.

Never can say it enough.

Fuck this cunt.

She is an abhorrent human.

She doesn’t believe the garbage she spews.

It’s all for money.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

A lot of reasonable countries have regulations and bans on weaponry.

The United States isn't some special country where gun regulation won't work.

Stop drinking the kool-aid.

I was just thinking geographically. It’s not as easy to regulate as an island nation. Would it help? Sure. I’m willing to support such laws or simply better enforcement of the ones we have now but I’m not gonna say it’ll be the end to shootings

 

[zeemumu]

the only way they change gun laws is if a group of black men go around to lamaze classes shooting pregnant women in the stomach talking about forced abortions.

basically, it won't change.

after Sandy Hook, why are there any doubters?

I get that trying to change gun laws seems like a lost cause with the blatant sweeping under the rug of all this proof that they need to be, but that doesn't mean we should give up.

 

[HardRojo]

The young are becoming the old.

And I wonder what they are precisely using to facilitate the murder of several people in an instant, I can't quite put my finger on what exact kind of object they could be using, it must be something dark and unknown, that's the only explanation, no way a human being could have easy access to such a dangerous item, that would be insane!

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

Eh it wouldn't be that simple. Everyone is armed trying to shoot this guy...that's A LOT of stray bullets hitting other people who panick and in turn blind fire themselves, who hit someone who in turn...blind fires themselves, others hear the shooting, panic pull out their gun because they gotta defend themselves.

It'd be a blood bath.

As someone who has been to gun safety courses the behavior you’re describing is not what I would expect from a crowd who has probably reviewed similar safety guidelines. Verifying your shot and the “gun is always loaded” mentality are the most heavily taught lessons in gun ownership.

 

[watershed]

Echoing many other posts, I lost all hope of sensible gun control laws in the US after the failure to pass any new legislation in the aftermath of Sandy Hook. In a sensible society Sandy Hook would have been a turning point in people's views on gun control, particularly legislators who have the actual power to craft and pass laws. Instead we got nothing and gun violence continues unabated.

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I was just thinking geographically. It’s not as easy to regulate as an island nation. Would it help? Sure. I’m willing to support such laws or simply better enforcement of the ones we have now but I’m not gonna say it’ll be the end to shootings

EU countries regulate well.

Canada regulates well.

Japan regulates well.

Australia regulates well.

Should I keep going?

Geography has shit all to do with it. You know this. You're just making the water murky, so it's hard to take it seriously when you doubt it all but are *still* for it.

It will be the end of almost all of them. Why? You don't give access to firearms without cause.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

EU countries regulate well.

Canada regulates well.

Japan regulates well.

Australia regulates well.

Should I keep going?

Geography has shit all to do with it. You know this. You're just making the water murky, so it's hard to take it seriously when you doubt it all but are *still* for it.

It will be the end of almost all of them. Why? You don't give access to firearms without cause.

I talk about geography and you name 2 islands and a nation with a border with only 1 nation. You can choose to believe my support of gun regulation or not but I’m not sure why I would lie about something like that on an anonymous site

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I talk about geography and you name 2 islands and a nation with a border with only 1 stable nation. You can choose to believe my support of gun regulation or not but I'm not sure why I would lie about something like that on an anonymous site

But you ignore Canada or the EU?

Geography has nothing to do with regulation considering drug trafficking is illegal in all those countries.

I question it cause even after what happened you're putting doubt into regulations not because of any facts or good reasons why but "geographically speaking, it's easier to regulate island countries".

So, you get it.

 

[Roronoa Zoro]

But you ignore Canada or the EU?

Geography has nothing to do with regulation considering drug trafficking is illegal in all those countries.

I question it cause even after what happened you're putting doubt into regulations not because of any facts or good reasons why but "geographically speaking, it's easier to regulate island countries".

So, you get it.

Get what?