TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Could easily be a gaf post, says absolutely nothing.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Super Mario Odyssey - 10/10 from Edge
- Thread starter Spades
- Start date
- Status
AppleSautts
Member
Can anyone in ReviewGAF tell us when previews are coming or is that under embargo too?
I'd still say that it's a pretty serious accusation to level against a fairly respected publication.
Word is the embargo won't lift until at least release week.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Yeah, its completely irresponsible journa...blog posting.
BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie
Banned
Yeah that piece is daft AF. There surely isn't anything shady going on behind the scenes, there are obvious reasons why EDGE get their reviews out first sometimes, we can say with 99.9% certainty that reviews will be out before launch so nowt to worry about there and that sentence about how one review is useless on its own is incredibly silly. They were jumping to conclusions far too hastily.
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
Don't give him the oxygen, he's trolling for clicks and follows.
LordOcidax
Member
He is just jealous because Nintendo didn't send a review copy to him. BTW... Contributors=Blog... That guy can be a VGsharts member... Nothing to see there.
TheDinoman
Member
Grand Theft Auto 4
Metal Gear Solid 4
Smash Bros. Brawl
Little Big Planet
Spore
Seems like 2008 was the year of highly antipicated games that were intitially well received before they got a ginormous blowback from the people who played them, lol.
I like Little Big Planet
It's because the game comes out this month and print magazines are usually not beholden to as strict of an embargo. By the next time they can actually put out a magazine that could feature a review (roughly two-three weeks after the game comes out) it won't be relevant in the hype cycle. Most publications have probably had review copies for weeks now.
I don't think Forbes thought this one through properly.
Salty people being salty people. Accusing a well-respected outlet of fraud is standard fare for console warriors, no need to give it any attention imo.
You guys its kind of suspicious, that this review is out so early. I have imagined in my head a scenario in which Edge is the only one who even gets to review the game because they've been taken over by Nintendo employees. I mean think about it, where are the other reviews 🤔. No one else but Edge probably got a review copy and that's why it's the only review, which means they were paid. Wake up sheeple! Also it's a 10/10 so it must be a lie, because certain scores are suspicious so take this 10/10 as a rumor, not a fact.
It's a fucking review of a video game lol
It's a fucking review of a video game lol
LordRaptor
Member
Edge sell their cover space - if you really doubt this take a look at all the games that have had covers, because it clearly isn't only titles people at edge really feel should be the star of the cover - but I genuinely doubt they sell review scores.
Especially when certain big titles by big companies known for throwing 'goody bags' and 'experience days' at reviewers don't hit 10s.
Especially when certain big titles by big companies known for throwing 'goody bags' and 'experience days' at reviewers don't hit 10s.
Refreshment.01
Member
Are you limiting the exposure to Odyssey to prevent spoilers?
i ask because so far with all things considered it ends ups looking more like Galaxy than Sunshine.
i would say the level structure, in the end, is not what's making the most difference here; is more the fact that there are a lot of persistent Moonshines (which is not new to 3D Marios) and the the player isn't taken out of the level after collecting them.
i think the Nintendo slide tends to misslead people.
So by now you've all seen this totally reasonable opinion on NeoGAF. Personally, I always think it's a little weird when people state their beliefs in such calm, reasonable ways. Until other posts come out we should take this calm, reasonable belief, and treat it as potentially corrupt and having been paid for some unknown motivation. Take it with a massive heaping cap full of salt.
You keep saying this but there's nothing in what we've seen that looks particularly Galaxy esque in the way level works.
Heartskips
Banned
Like people said, Edge is like the only relevant print magazine. Makes sense that they got it first.
Forbes Contributors making clickbait articles about Nintendo is the usual anyway.
Forbes Contributors making clickbait articles about Nintendo is the usual anyway.
How is that more like Galaxy though? Also what's the misleading part?
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
I got more of a Sunshine vibe than a Galaxy one but I played very little.
hellishimp
Member
I can only imagine what is going to happen if the game rates as as an aggregate 90...
"The value of reviews, at least to some degree, lies in their consensus"
Whaaa? How about no. This is some metacritic level of bullshit. The value of reviews lie in the ability of the reviewer to assess the merits of a product and have good language skills to convey said merits to his audience. In that sense, providing the reviewer or publication has a certain credibility, the review can stand on its own.
I would say Edge has a fair bit of all these qualities.
PS: "Edge Magazine, which is still printed on dead trees". Nice touch, very witty.
Edge repeatedly refers to Odyssey as a successor to 64, not Galaxy, and even takes the time to point out that the typical level design of Galaxy (tight, restrictive, pushing the player from one sphere to the next) is like the antithesis of Odyssey.
Really don't understand how someone could watch videos and read stuff about the game and think it's closer to Galaxy than 64.
Really don't understand how someone could watch videos and read stuff about the game and think it's closer to Galaxy than 64.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
wtf does that even mean? Dead trees?
Velius
Banned
This makes me excited as hell.
No disrespect to Galaxy. I love the game. But having the Sunshine/64 kind of style is making me drool
Yeah, I kind of tuned out after that line. Actually, I had to unroll my eyes first, then I tuned out.
Young Tick
Neo Member
Damn. Another high score in the Super Mario franchise. Even though i find it too high (no game deserves a 10 in my opinion), I understand the enthousiasm.
Refreshment.01
Member
im not blaming any person here about misleading, im talking about the January comparison slide we got from Nintendo. To be honest im not impying im a 100% right, just that it looks more Galaxy than people give credit.
For example, Cappy is an enhanced Luma more than a Flood. A 1 input multipurpose mechanic. Star Spin both doubled as an offensive and jump safety net manuver just like Cappy. With the difference Cappy has the added "capturing" to replace the Galaxy power up system.
The way to progress from level to level. Mario Star Ship is similar to the Odyssey in the sense that power stars/Moonshines are neede to open the path to new ones, so this is not "Open World" as is wrongly throw around fom time to time by SOME.
Another thing is when we look at the Galaxy series more open ended levels. Odyssey has similar transitions from 2D gameplay to 3D gameplay. That wasn't part of either Sunshine nor 64.
Basically take an open Galaxy level and spread 3D World like green stars in there, while also having the more complex Stars the game has and you end up pretty close to Odyssey. In the end like i said, the fact that Mario doesn't exit the level makes a big difference but that wasn't part of 64 or Sunshine either as the player was taken out of the level except for some cases.
My personal review scale goes to eleven. So...
I don't think there's anything wrong with liking any of those games, but to call any of them the absolute best at what they do is quite a stretch. Even those that love LBP will freely admit that it's not such a great platformer from a mechanics standpoint.
Puddington
Member
This is just a blogger that doesn't understand print lead times. Print magazines have to take into account printing and distribution so they need to finalize everything in the magazine far before it hits the news stands, thus they got an early review copy.
Okami Haundo
Member
Don't get me hyped like this...
LordRaptor
Member
I think looking at LBP on purely "singleplayer platformer" terms does it a huge disservice.
Holy crap PS3 era was trash. I like all of those games and they are definitely aberrations.
UncleSporky
Member
TBH I don't know if Nintendo is ruthless/cunning enough to do paid reviews.
They might try to offer some minor incentives like early review copies and some swag but I thought it was pretty well established that they are pretty conservative about marketing, which this would fall under.
Plus they've released plenty of other 9/10 or 10/10 Mario games in the past. Did they pay for all those reviews? What about NSMB2 with its 78%, did they forget to pay that day?
They might try to offer some minor incentives like early review copies and some swag but I thought it was pretty well established that they are pretty conservative about marketing, which this would fall under.
Plus they've released plenty of other 9/10 or 10/10 Mario games in the past. Did they pay for all those reviews? What about NSMB2 with its 78%, did they forget to pay that day?
I mean, what is this guy on about. Edge got an exclusive first review of BotW, gave it a 10/10, and then the game went on to skirt a Metacritic score of 98, more than validating their review score.
All of the other Edge 10's have exceptionally high reviews overall.
There is no reason to believe that Edge — perhaps the highest quality publication in the industry — are being disingenuous with their scoring, particularly when they have a reputation for being very harsh.
Obviously Nintendo don't mind giving a publication that appreciates their games early access.
DecoReturns
Member
Guess the check didn't clear for Samus Returns.
Dark Cloud
Member
Please don't give that Forbes thing attention. So sad
Yeah, loved MGS4 and most of GTA 4 but compared to PS4 it feels like PS3 had a much sparseer lineup
The platforming mechanics have the same problems with one person or four.
PS3/360/Wii era was the generation of broken dreams. So much hype and in the end...Diamond and Pearl sucked, Smash Bros sucked, Mario Kart sucked, LBP sucked, GTA completely changed (which sucked at first) ,MGS4 delivered but managed to be weird as fuck even by MGS standards.
Halo and 3D Mario were the only things that were as good as everyone hoped.
Halo and 3D Mario were the only things that were as good as everyone hoped.
LordRaptor
Member
Yeah, but they are as they are because it allows for 4 player online multiplayer.
Which is still fairly rare in platform games.
Its also skipping over the whole 'build your own' aspect, which has only arguably been bettered by Super Mario Maker
Boy Wander
Member
Why do we bother with Forbes? Can't any old jabroni contribute?
I'm planning on playing Stardew at the same time as Odyssey. I think it'll be a nice palette cleanser to Mario. Or that could be the stupidest plan ever, who knows.
My guess (correct me if I'm wrong) is that you define a 10 as a perfect game. In that interpretation, no game ever should get a 10. However, most reviewers define a 10 as an exceptional title that has a uniquely high quality for its time. In that definition, awarding a 10 is possible. It's a semantic difference everyone should get past at this point, I think.
Tales Of was great on XB360, though!
Correctumundo.
- Status