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More transparency is always best when you're asking someone to roll the dice with their money. If people want to risk their money for something not guaranteed that is up to them.
I guess you could satirise why not sell alcohol without the alcohol % listed? People are going to drink it anyway?
There's some satisfaction from most gamers as well to ferret out the worst pubs/devs when it comes to charging money for RNG and giving people like 1~10% chances. Plus some speculation that pubs/devs will manipulate their own market drop rates behind the scenes as and when it benefits them. That is not a pleasant thing to imagine, but right now completely do-able without anyone knowing.
The alcohol point makes sense. Getting the really manipulative stuff out there makes sense but stuff like lootboxs in Battlefront 2 etc seems like such a minor thing to get ruffled up by. Unless the revealed odds are designed to drag more money out of people but in a games industry designed to keep players playing and pouring money back into the industry, making money on exploiting people is what this industry does best.
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The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
I hope they do, it's long overdue.
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This right here.If the industry refuses to regulate itself then it presents the possibility of the government stepping in, which is bad for everyone.
There's no way to spin this, the ESRB and PEGI fucked up, badly.
With our current governfment they'd just try and ban the purchase of loot boxes. :/
The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
Publishers won't do anything, they'll just push as hard as they canThe ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
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She couldnt bully beefWe already have a right wing bully for PM
Save a stamp and just email them?
Trading cards can also be traded and sold, and singles can be bought from stores.Seeing some of the "but trading cards" posts as usual.
The ๖ۜBronx;252063950 said:Second to top post there, to add some discussion point.
That post doesn't make a single real point. Just yells "this is stupid" a dozen times. Not sure what that adds to any discussion.
Trading cards can also be traded and sold, and singles can be bought from stores.
Gambling has a narrow legal definition that loot boxes don't meet so gambling laws aren't a good fit either.
If the industry refuses to regulate itself then it presents the possibility of the government stepping in, which is bad for everyone.
There's no way to spin this, the ESRB and PEGI fucked up, badly.
I don't trust the government to handle law that requires knowledge of how game mechanics and microtransactions should and shouldn't be combined.
Gambling has a narrow legal definition that loot boxes don't meet so gambling laws aren't a good fit either.
The best path forward is self regulation, which would have to come from the platform holders rather than publishers or the ESRB.
Trading cards can also be traded and sold, and singles can be bought from stores.
Not really loot boxes are more akin to buying Magic or Pokemon cards which isnt gambling. As you know youll receive a certain set of items you dont know the rarity or if you receive duplicates.
Gambling would be the case that you buy a loot box and get nothing out of it. Loot boxes can be ignored.
In other news, the UK has outlawed the EU evil that is Kinder Surprise
Not really loot boxes are more akin to buying Magic or Pokemon cards which isnt gambling. As you know youll receive a certain set of items you dont know the rarity or if you receive duplicates.
Gambling would be the case that you buy a loot box and get nothing out of it. Loot boxes can be ignored.
He really should have asked his mum to check the grammar before submitting this government petition.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/201300
It links to a Kotaku article on China at least. The petition seems like it's been written by a 19-year-old who's been burnt spending £1,000+ of their part-time wages on loot boxes. That's beside the point though, getting things spoken about by MPs is the key here.
If the industry refuses to regulate itself then it presents the possibility of the government stepping in, which is bad for everyone.
There's no way to spin this, the ESRB and PEGI fucked up, badly.
Gambling would be the case that you buy a loot box and get nothing out of it. Loot boxes can be ignored.
Not really loot boxes are more akin to buying Magic or Pokemon cards which isnt gambling. As you know youll receive a certain set of items you dont know the rarity or if you receive duplicates.
Gambling would be the case that you buy a loot box and get nothing out of it. Loot boxes can be ignored.
If treated as gambling, odds will need to be known (or that is very likely).
Ultimately, most of our debates around this should just be trying to get to known odds listed, not loot boxes banned. Gambling regulation will lead to known odds, or if that is knocked back as I said about the UK government could demand Chinese like drop rate transparency for buyers to know what chances they're throwing money at.
If this becomes an EU wide regulation, in some countries the games would be automatically banned from sale. This a big deal.
1. Laws and Regulations are suppose to adapt to new predatory schemes, whether it fits the 50-100+ year old definitions of physical real world gambling doesnt mean it shouldnt be regulated.
2.Look at the thread title, its not being ignored, the ESRB and PEGI have opened the door for the government (Conservative governments btw) to come in and regulate the industry.
Everybody wins?If this becomes an EU wide regulation, in some countries the games would be automatically banned from sale. This a big deal.
If publishers care about that, they can go ahead and get rid of lootboxes.If this becomes an EU wide regulation, in some countries the games would be automatically banned from sale. This a big deal.
half the posters here said:But it's not gambling
All loot boxes can be ignored no one tells you you have to buy x amount off them. The government doesnt need involvement in this case.