Albino_Yeti
Member
Yea this is what I think too. Once the trolls stop flooding the place it will go back to normal.
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But.. Will it be like here?, that you cant reply until confirmed. It's gonna s**k to spend 6 months waiting for a Junior Account when I just recentrly got it here.
Maybe not in this thread...
CallMeSHAFT
Neo Member
There's still some confusion here, so I'll try help out.
- There is no more invites. Don't ask, don't bother with discord
- Normal Registration will happen soon. Some saying tonight and some saying tomorrow, I haven't heard myself
- Paid Email addresses are required, though emailing support with a screengrab of your gaf account might (MIGHT) allow entry for someone with a freebie account. Worth a shot IMO
It's probably gonna be like that. However, the site doesn't carry a long wait list and the huge mod team should make the process quick.
I know it's hard, I only got Member status like a month ago.
I heard from an admin that it'll probably start tomorrow, so I'd think it's all but confirmed.
...so making such a blanket statement isn't appropriate? And even if there were people banned somewhere, it doesn't necessarily mean they got banned for that. We even had the example today where that was used as a weapon after a user created a certain thread.
300 posts I think. Some of us are slower, that's all.
Edit: He/She was referring to the account approval though.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Yes, there are people being immature as they leave.
I, however, would rather leave amicably rather than burn bridges for the sake of my choice of forum.
It's not a blanket statement.
I saw plenty of users request an invite last night , and they're banned now, and even looked at some of their last posts and nothing malice in them.
Also apparently the site name is a banned word here as well as some other forum.
And ppl getting banned because of invites in their PM's.
Screenshots of the ban reasons have been floating around too.
As did most of the people. It's just a shame not everyone can do it with good manners.
Have you considered the fact that they have maybe posted in a deleted thread? There were a lot of them throughout the days.
Can't really comment on that but apparently it is standard practice with those that split off from this one?
You don't get banned for that. A developer posted yesterday that reading other people's PMs isn't possible, unless you have direct access to the database. Misinformation being spread isn't exactly a new thing though.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Indeed.
This situation is not pleasant for any of us. No need to make it worse for the sake of the "last word".
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
Is the host of the party grabbing random peoples asses all night to show dominance?
And here I was thinking Id done something good to get to member status so quickly here. Turns out I just couldnt shut up.
No, but he did grab the ass of a woman at the grocery store when he left to pickup more drinks once the party was started. He also displayed some nude pics of someone without their consent early on, yet everyone stayed!
I honestly wonder how many of the folks that have left the forum in disgust participated in the hot women threads that were so common back then... I bet that might be embarrassing to dig up.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Have you considered that not everyone was aware of the "host's" actions?
Some of us haven't been at this party very long, and never even knew the host until recently.
All of them?
Yehhhhhh which the site administration would have access to..
Also the community threads are not deleted...
Seductivpancakes
Member
I'd let them go and be about my business no matter how rude they were being.
And if you think the people who left suddenly left without a reason, you're terribly mistaken, so your analogy is loaded to make one side look as bad possible.
Nice try, but I used "maybe". I haven't seen this "plenty" amount of users, so I obviously can't really put out much, except for posting one possibility.
I really don't think that's how it works...
You probably misunderstood me. I'm talking about threads in the gaming section (maybe also the community ones, haven't checked there though) that got completely deleted in which they might have posted.
I'm with you! I've been at this party for a long time now, and wasn't aware of any of this until just recently. However, many people that recently left the party were aware, and stuck around anyway.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
I'm certain that some of those in the know will likely stay at the party regardless of recent events.
Hey there, you are spreading misinformation. First off, admins have access to the database. vBulletin allows them to run database queries right from the control panel. The developer you are talking about said that out of the box, vBulletin does not allow reading people's PMs. We know that NeoGAF is not run on vBulletin out-of-the-box and many people have developed vBulletin plug-ins that allow admins to read PMs without doing manual database queries, and I believe another poster mentioned the various other ways you can read PMs. Nobody from staff responded to my requests for clarification on why the TOS says that they can exploit and edit our PMs or why the privacy policy cannot be like other places that only allow admins to read PMs in response to a law enforcement request.
Which is understandable, as people have completely different approaches to the whole matter.
Hm?
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
I know dancing on graves is frowned upon.. but whoever hit the ban button with this guy. My thanks. Long time coming.
How does that contradict what I said? That just says that vBulletin does not let any user read PMs. He later clarified that he was saying vBulletin out of the box. So here are the issues:
An admin has direct access to the database
NeoGAF is not run on out-of-the-box version of vBulletin
An admin can login as you to view your PMs
The TOS says they can modify and exploit your PMs
He did not respond to my requests regarding the above.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
If this is true, that is R E P R E H E N S I B L E.
They're "private" messages. Not "private, except the mods can read them too" messages.
Naked Snake
Member
From a quick glace over at Reset I learned two things:
You get a notification there if someone quotes you.
And bishoptl has joined their ranks.
Grass is looking mighty green on that side rn.
You get a notification there if someone quotes you.
And bishoptl has joined their ranks.
Grass is looking mighty green on that side rn.
Clockwork
Member
Bishoptl joining makes the grass look greener? You do realize the shit he got caught doing as a mod right? The guy went totally rogue to suit his personal agenda.
If that is an admirable quality then I don't know what to say.
The modern features are amazing.
You can highlight specific parts of someone's post and quote it without having to delete excess stuff.
Notifications is a huge plus too.
If you click on the user it brings up their profile without leaving the page.
You can "mention" users, like Facebook tag, and they'll get notified
Mailenstein
Member
Not a mod tho.
What gives you any reason to think gaf will recover? The problem is Evilore and he doesn't appear to be going away. Even if he did step down though, it's probably too late anyway as the damage has already been done. Almost all of the long time / most active posters are gone. Game developers, journalists, insiders won't be coming here anymore. It's never going to be the same.
Even those that chose to stuck around have slowly begun to realize this place is a ghost town now. There's a brand new incredible Mario game scoring 10/10 everywhere and the OT hasn't even hit 200 posts yet.
Things are only going to get worse when Reset opens up registration to all.
Clockwork
Member
Oh then he is totes cool then. I mean the former says nothing about his character.
(But at the same time let's go on about how EviLore sucks)
Sir Vilhelm
Member
Really surprised that all the reset talk has not been shut down. Anyway, hope to see you all on the other side!
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Oh I forget, who changed the edit function?
Who took away OT?
Who has the ability to look into PMs thru the database (Edit: Glad it's confirmed no one was looking into PMs then.) and ban posters?
Who censored *************?
On top of his hypocritical attitude.
Oh and grabbing a woman's ass.
Humdinger
Member
That's nice. Big improvement.
Yeah, I looked up his later posts just now.
Hm, I'm not entirely sure what to think. He is stating some things clearly but is at the same time being pretty vague.
I'm not really sure EL can do that as easily. Currently trying to remember how it was when I was an admin of a forum over ten years ago and I really don't think it was that simple. Maybe things have changed during that time...I wish you would have asked him directly.
You have to post a bit more of the TOS to make it more clear though.
Reads like some typical forum TOS stuff, like he said (no idea about reddit which you mentioned but I don't think it's your "standard" forum). One would have to check other forum's TOS.
Naked Snake
Member
No actually I'm not aware of what he did and what got him demodded. I just like him because me and him were friendly for years and he was nice and helpful to me on several occasions.
I thought he is since his post said something like: "Shinobi will be wielding the [ban] hammer, and I'll be on the porch strumming a guitar with a shotgun nearby."
pollutedturtle
Neo Member
The only mistake made here was taking the site down in the first place. Maintenance or not, bad timing.
Everyone is deserving of justice, and if you truly did something wrong I hope that works itself out in a court of law, where you will have to be proven guilty. If the claims are as baseless as you say, it's a scary time in history where people are being brought down by hearsay on social media.
Everyone is deserving of justice, and if you truly did something wrong I hope that works itself out in a court of law, where you will have to be proven guilty. If the claims are as baseless as you say, it's a scary time in history where people are being brought down by hearsay on social media.
The issue isnt whether the allegations are or arent true but moreso a pattern that has developed over the years
You mean like simply highlighting some text and then c&p it?
Yeah, notifications is a big plus, as well as the report button. Wouldn't exactly call it "modern" features, as they have been around for a while but yeah, definitely improvements.
There are also a lot of less than stellar things which are getting mentioned in the proper thread. But considering the forum was just created, it will at least get better over time.
Shinobi is an admin. Bishoptl is just a regular poster.
What type of database did the forum use and what was the forum software? Im not a software or developer person (I work in one of the lowest tech professions, legal/law) but I think I would be able to put together the SQL queries neededto display PMs if you give me a database structure.
I did check other forums' TOS and my post to Timan told him about other TOS that do not have such a provision.
I asked them to change the language if they did not intend to exploit or modify PMs, and he ignored the suggestion as well.
You mean like simply highlighting some text and then c&p it?
Yeah, notifications is a big plus, as well as the report button. Wouldn't exactly call it "modern" features, as they have been around for a while but yeah, definitely improvements.
There are also a lot of less than stellar things which are getting mentioned in the proper thread. But considering the forum was just created, it will at least get better over time.
Well modern for me lol
I've only ever used the old gamespot forums, Gametrailers (RIP) and then gaf exclusively for the past 4 or so years so didn't have anything fancy lol.
As you said it's still new and they have setup a request thread so no doubt it'll be feature full soon.
Okies so the OT is "back". Should quiet down this Gaming side in any case. Still silence from the head honcho 2 or is it 3 days already, later? Mod(s) dun seem ta got much ta say either. So neither do I aside from:
These are good posts fwiw. Hopefully people flaunting the "gaf has 200k members" thing take the first post to heart. An I do hope this place can maintain good worthwhile discussion. This was a rare forum in which I could pick apart bad things or things I simply disliked about games I loved and not be called a troll. Remember: you can reallyyyy like something yet still find fault with it, and if you feel its flawless just keep in mind that may not be the case to everyone else!
That 200k. Counts all banned members and multiple accounts
Era will be having open registration very soon as in within 24hrs
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