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Witcher 3 Xbox One X patch is out!! Performance and Resolution modes!!!
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VisualFidelity
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My initial impressions are the performance mode runs buttery smooth out of Rock Solid 60 frames but expect resolution to drop as low as 1080p but with HDR and 60fps it still looks glorious plus you have the added benefit of updated textures and shadows Etc
4K mode looks very sharp and much cleaner. HDR makes a huge difference in the lighting looks much better now.
4K mode looks very sharp and much cleaner. HDR makes a huge difference in the lighting looks much better now.
Senua
Gold Member
I don't own an X. Just a hunch that it won't be completely stable, especially in Novigrad.
shawnbuddy
Member
Yeah. I guess it's a moot point for me because my PC couldn't run it at ultra settings at 4K, though.
Depends on the settings. I think a 470 can do 4k 30 fps on low. Was the X upgraded beyond medium settings?
Lort
Banned
Lol .. U sound like a warrior fanboy enacting a disinformation campaign.
Senua
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Lort
Banned
By lets wait for DF u mean you'll say something like its true then when u get called out for it admit u have no idea.. thats not waiting thats talking bs. And when it drops to 55 fps for 1 moment youll say you were right all along. Why are you even here .. its a thread for a patch for a conole u dont even own?!?
Senua is being totally reasonable. Your reaction here is kinda out of line with his (very) fair assumption that known problem areas in the game would continue to tax the X's hardware.
thelastword
Banned
The pro version is 4k CB, all 2160p pixels are still being rendered. I also think you need to read up on how checkerboarding is accomplished, A figure like 1800p is not going to be checkerboarded to 4k, if they're rendering at 1800p rez, it will most likely be upscaled from 1800p to 2160p on your TV.
Always a proponent of 60fps or at least unlocked framerates. I wanted unlocked modes in ACU, Alien Isolation, The resident evil remakes etc..., but most of these were never patched on PRO. I always called an unlocked mode on PRO as defintely possible at medium settings with say a resolution of 1080p, it may not be locked 60fps, but it should have been done...
It's great XBONEX is getting that, maybe they're working on the PRO version as we speak..I must say though, I'm a bit disappointed in the PRO patch of this title, this should be 4k CB at max settings on PRO, so what's up with the blurry trees and lod with not much in the way of better graphical settings minus the rez boost?
As I said, this should be 4k native 30fps with max settings on PRO, farless 4k CB.... and there should be a 1080p unlocked mode at medium settings....I can already tell it won't be locked 60fps on consoles, but it should offer a very nice/fluid experience like TRDE did with it's unlocked mode...
I don't think you should expect a locked 60fps...hell, even COD is not locked 60fps (without flaw), but a witcher 3 that's 60fps for quite a bit of the time, once they engage the right settings on consoles, should be much better to play minus it's stilted combat...
Koala Driving a Ferrari
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I just watched some 4k Youtube footage of TW3 running on the Xbone X and it looks fantastic. Props to the team at CDPR. Most impressive. The extra effort they've put in has just earned them an additional sale. I was looking for a reason to pick up the GotY version and this update more than gave me one.
Hopefully ~4k @ 30fps & 1080p @ 60fps options become more standardised going forwards (when technically feasible).
It'll be interesting to see how the X update performs during the standard Witcher 3 stress points. I wouldn't be surprised if only minor dips occur as the latest patches on the PS4 keep it locked at 30 fps 99% of the time. It's a completely different experience now than it was at launch on the PS4/XB1.
Hopefully ~4k @ 30fps & 1080p @ 60fps options become more standardised going forwards (when technically feasible).
It'll be interesting to see how the X update performs during the standard Witcher 3 stress points. I wouldn't be surprised if only minor dips occur as the latest patches on the PS4 keep it locked at 30 fps 99% of the time. It's a completely different experience now than it was at launch on the PS4/XB1.
3rdamention
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What a ridiculous post, talk about trying to start a narrative, or just start something in general...
Where is any salt in this thread before you posted this? Where is the example you are talking about? .. smh
TheShocker
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So has anyone else had a problem where the game wont toggle into performance mode? Ive tried switching it in both the main menu and in game, but it always shows as running in 4k mode.
VisualFidelity
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It should be noted that it seems there is a bug with switching from performance and 4k mode. I think pressing A on the option has helped actually switch it but sometimes its not at what its showing. WHen I loaded it, it was on 4k, but the high framerate gave it away. once I switched to performance and back to 4k it looked much sharper and fps was back to 30. fyi
arhra
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I think it's just the menu option that's bugged.
If you set it to the one you want and back out it'll switch correctly, but the menu will switch back to 4K any time you open it rather than sticking on the one you selected.
VisualFidelity
Member
game is so beautiful. In HDR is much better too as no detail is lost in highlights
It has been analysed by NX Gamer. His channel is just as good as digital foundry IMO when it comes to graphics/performance analysis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aq8HLJIId0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aq8HLJIId0
Jessie.Bristol
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The patch overall is very good. The resolution bump on top of the enhancements and HDR make this game look very good. Performance in 4K Mode seemed very solid even in Novigrad City. Which the two performance analysis I watched from NX Gamer and VG Tech confirmed. The Performance mode seemed solid overall, didn't go too deep into Novigrad with Performance mode enabled. But from those analysis, it seems to still suffer from the CPU bottleneck.
When I go back through The Witcher 3, 4K mode is definitely what I'd be using for the enhanced visuals. Took a screen shot at night while raining in a close up shot of Geralt.
When I go back through The Witcher 3, 4K mode is definitely what I'd be using for the enhanced visuals. Took a screen shot at night while raining in a close up shot of Geralt.
rokkerkory
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Mmmm 60fps!!
thelastword
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I think there's more info an stats here.
According to VG-TECH
4k Mode
Witcher 3 is Dynamic 4k on XBONEX wavering between 2620 x 1480 up to 3840 x 2160, no details as to average rez.
Performance Mode
1920 x 1080 up to 2650 x 1490...It does not go up to 3840 x 2160 as some people suggested, but that would be mainly because the GPU is not strong enough to do so.
As per NX's video...
Nx Gamer states that performance mode is mostly at 1080p on the XBONEX btw, but there's definitely a dynamic scaler in place, which corroborates VGtech's findings...
As I suggested earlier, CDPR should do some work on the PRO version, though I saw less aliasing on that version in comparisons, they have some weird issues with the blurry foliage on the PRO version and the framerate drops in the swamps is unacceptable, not the best pro patch by any means. I would like to see a dynamic scaler on PRO to arrest framerate just as XBONEX has to keep the framerate at locked 30fps in the 4k mode. Graphical settings and blurry foliage should be improved on PRO as well. They should also implement a performance mode on PRO at flat 1080p or Dynamic rez just the same...
It's funny, I've been reading some impressions elsewhere, which shall not be named...and the concensus is that Witcher 3 is now GPU bound, because it has a 60fps mode on XBONEX, no-less. It's hilarious, because I always tried to show folk that Witcher 3 run on pretty much any low end CPU without any issues minus Novigrad and whilst loading new areas...For the most part, when you're in battle the framerate holds, so way back when CDPR said they were not going to do a patch, I said it's shame because this could run nicely on the mid-gen consoles at 1080p at 60fps/unlocked, some people shunned that thought, but here we are. I guess those cogs will keep on turning.....
FWIW, I think it looks pretty sharp on the X, but they have to improve framerate on the PRO version and improve all that blurry foliage on PRO too. Pro owners would also need that performance mode too...
Koala Driving a Ferrari
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Another performance comparison between the Pro and the X from VGTech can be seen here: https://youtu.be/SKLIicW4XUc
I'm impressed by how well the Xbox One X seems to hold a locked 30fps in the 4k mode. Even in areas where the Pro is choking, the X's framerate doesn't even budge. Now I'm hanging out to replay it on the X. The PS4 version was fine but this just looks so much better. I'm envious of anyone who is going to play through The Witcher 3 on their X for the first time.
I'm impressed by how well the Xbox One X seems to hold a locked 30fps in the 4k mode. Even in areas where the Pro is choking, the X's framerate doesn't even budge. Now I'm hanging out to replay it on the X. The PS4 version was fine but this just looks so much better. I'm envious of anyone who is going to play through The Witcher 3 on their X for the first time.
thelastword
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That's because Pro has a fixed rez and XBONEX has a dynamic scaler......so the DS, manages a locked framerate better....
I'd suggest dynamic 4k CBR on PRO for locked 30fps and 1080p unlocked mode.
I'd suggest dynamic 4k CBR on PRO for locked 30fps and 1080p unlocked mode.
rokkerkory
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Damn nice. Great support by CDPR
JohnnyFootball
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I saw that the patch was released before my work and I sadly didn't get a whole lot of time to really check it out, but it is truly outstanding now that I have had a chance to dive right into it.
dragonfart28
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The 60fps mode is a dynamic resolution that adjusts between 1080p and 4k to maintain that framerate.
It would be nice if a certain website could find out how often you get one or the other.
It would be nice if a certain website could find out how often you get one or the other.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Played it a few hours ago, 4K gloriousness. Game is insanely beautiful. I'm in for a treat maaan
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
The pro version is already out. The Xbox One X is simply stronger than the Pro, and this game prove it.
What a load of moronic shit you constantly spew. The Pro is doing the best it can. It's just not in the same league as the X. If you can't understand the significant advantages the X has over the Pro in GPU, bandwidth and RAM then you have no place in technical discussions.
Well it wont be running at 60fps in many of the game areas. So that statment still holds true.
Game just looks glorious.
Sosokrates
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I need to read up lol, noticed I said 1600-1800p lol so please dont state my opinion incompletely so it suits your goal of portraying myself as not understanding checkerboarding.
As for my previous point about that the pro version is 1920x2160p native and uses checkerboarding to add in extra pixels to achieve a checkerboard 4k image is quoted from digital foundry.
https://youtu.be/HcNQVuNo_kY
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Dynamic resolution scaling is going to result in incredible BC on next gen Xbox. MS should make it mandatory in every new release (patch or game).
kirankara78
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NX gamer disagrees as does other footage. Drops to 30+ fps is far from flawless. It's pretty good in some areas overall, but some areas are still far from close to 60fps and 30fps lock could be better option as whole.
https://youtu.be/0aq8HLJIId0
https://youtu.be/SKLIicW4XUc
Sosokrates
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If you want a 30fps option, there is the 4k mode......
thelastword
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Yes the XBONEX is stronger than the PRO, we knew that ages ago. Still the PRO version is not at optimum, I dont think it's a great patch. Those framedrops in the swamp should never happen, pro should have a performance mode too, it's foliage should not be so blurry and it needs HDR support...
XBONEX is already pushing higher pixels, though dynamically and has a solid framerate in the 4k mode, I think that covers it's power gulf, but it's also clear that much much more work went into the XBONEX version too, so it's not just about power here, it's about optimizations too. You can enjoy the XBONEX version, I think it's pretty solid, I'm just saying the PRO version needs to be patched again.....Obviously to bring all the extras and optimizations the XBONEX patch has.....
Better foliage
Dynamic resolution
Performance Mode
HDR.....
are the upgrades which I expect, so the patch could be solid enough on PRO..
You said 1600p or 1800p would be checkerboarded to 4k, it does not work like that....Saying that the Pro version is 1920 x 2160 is very misleading also, perhaps you're trying to diminish it, but it's not simply 1920 x 2160, the other pixel information is being rendered as well to create a 4k image, it's not upscaled.....On the flip, if the XBONEX is doing 2600 x 1600, the rest of the pixels are not rendered in any form, it's upscaled...I think it's important we give the right information in a tech thread.....The XBONEX defintely has the edge here, enjoy that, but don't try to misrepresent what's going on, that's a bit disingenuous at best...
Well, unhhh, it's not flawless...
.....,but it holds very well when in combat which is when you need the best controller response. I always maintained that the game dropped to lower fps in the expansions, just that many sites did not get enough data samples from there. All in all, performance mode is still the way to play, but it's certainly not flawless....
Charlton3k
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I haven't picked up a 4k tv yet so i'm still on 1080p, worth just doing the 60fps mode then? I've tried that so far and feels weird controlling a slow sluggish Geralt but having a fast high camera movement.
Yeah, i can't wait to get home to play it more.
Journey
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What is your agenda?
f@luS
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Finally got to try it
fresh start (I played a bit on PS4 before )
Very good looking. But -again- 4K doesnt add enough for me to chose it over framerate. Im 2 meters away from a 65 inches Oled and as I tried many games je difference is kinda subtle. Going for performance. Great patch
fresh start (I played a bit on PS4 before )
Very good looking. But -again- 4K doesnt add enough for me to chose it over framerate. Im 2 meters away from a 65 inches Oled and as I tried many games je difference is kinda subtle. Going for performance. Great patch
JohnnyFootball
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Performance mode is great, but it does drastically suffer in places like Novigrad square.
Sosokrates
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Yes the XBONEX is stronger than the PRO, we knew that ages ago. Still the PRO version is not at optimum, I dont think it's a great patch. Those framedrops in the swamp should never happen, pro should have a performance mode too, it's foliage should not be so blurry and it needs HDR support...
XBONEX is already pushing higher pixels, though dynamically and has a solid framerate in the 4k mode, I think that covers it's power gulf, but it's also clear that much much more work went into the XBONEX version too, so it's not just about power here, it's about optimizations too. You can enjoy the XBONEX version, I think it's pretty solid, I'm just saying the PRO version needs to be patched again.....Obviously to bring all the extras and optimizations the XBONEX patch has.....
Better foliage
Dynamic resolution
Performance Mode
HDR.....
are the upgrades which I expect, so the patch could be solid enough on PRO..
You said 1600p or 1800p would be checkerboarded to 4k, it does not work like that....Saying that the Pro version is 1920 x 2160 is very misleading also, perhaps you're trying to diminish it, but it's not simply 1920 x 2160, the other pixel information is being rendered as well to create a 4k image, it's not upscaled.....On the flip, if the XBONEX is doing 2600 x 1600, the rest of the pixels are not rendered in any form, it's upscaled...I think it's important we give the right information in a tech thread.....The XBONEX defintely has the edge here, enjoy that, but don't try to misrepresent what's going on, that's a bit disingenuous at best...
Well, unhhh, it's not flawless...
.....,but it holds very well when in combat which is when you need the best controller response. I always maintained that the game dropped to lower fps in the expansions, just that many sites did not get enough data samples from there. All in all, performance mode is still the way to play, but it's certainly not flawless....
The only one doing misrepresentation is you.What I said about the pro version is the truth. Dont take my word for it, its what digital foundry said.
Also when someone puts "1600-1800" it means 1600 to 1800 especially in the context of what I wrote.
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