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Xbox Game Pass is a Console Seller
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rokkerkory
Member
I must resist GP otherwise my life might get sucked away.
ReBurn
Gold Member
I don't think we will. That model is going away in lieu of interest free financing for the device spread across multiple months, but you still pay full price for the thing. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see packages for $25 per month for 24 months where you get Gamepass and an S, but if you cancel Gamepass you have to pay the full balance on the hardware. I wonder if anyone would sign up for that?
Well Xbox Live Gold is exactly this. Monthly “free games” that rotate along with store discounts and access to online multiplayer, just like PSPlus. I wouldn’t class GamePass as the same thing at all.
To me GamePass is seperate because it’s a Netflix style depository of games (now including first party titles on launch day) that rotates games out far, far, far less frequently than monthly.
Gamepass is a really good deal. Problem is, I already own most of the interesting games. But when Sea of Thieves arrives, I will definitely subscribe to this service. I also have EA Access ... well I really don't know why I still got this, because most of the games I play I bought at release that are now included ^^, but for just 24€ a year it's a great service. But I realized how low EAs yearly game-output is. But the good thing is, they also put some great xb360 games in there, so I'm still subscribing.
Codes 208
Member
If saving $50 to try sea of thieves for a month is casual versus paying in full or renting for like $3+ a night from red box, then ill gladly be a filthy pleb.
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Dont forget back compat.
dr_octagon
Banned
Netflix equivalent ot games is well overdue - not just a couple of games per month (which are rarely decent with PS+ offering)
you could offer different pricing to include newer releases to attract people who may only play a handful of titles over 6 months or a year
(this would be better than the current free games you get with PS+)
having proper access to a back catalogue and including online play would fit with 'games as a service' and things moving to a digital future
you could offer different pricing to include newer releases to attract people who may only play a handful of titles over 6 months or a year
(this would be better than the current free games you get with PS+)
having proper access to a back catalogue and including online play would fit with 'games as a service' and things moving to a digital future
Artistic
Member
Is Game Pass sharable like Xbox Live Gold is?
RokkanStoned
Member
I don't view it as a big console seller, to be honest, but it's a great benefit for XB1 owners. The XB1 has gone pretty cheap in Norway at times, but I have a hard time putting the money in, because the first party games don't interest me and I struggle too much with a huge backlog to care about a game pass. I already have PS4, Switch, PC and Vita that I'm playing. So I have a hard time justifying a XB1 purchase. I was mentally ready to consider the XB1 during its reveal, but that quickly deflated once it got presented. I think that Microsoft XBOX division needs to change up their first party strategy and manage position their product and its marketing better for the next generation. But it's good that they are treating their owners well in terms of the game pass and backwards compatibility.
Deputy Moonman
Member
Game back logs are a thing of mystery to me. You hear it all the time: "oh i have a huge back log of games I haven't played yet." Isn't that basically throwing money down the drain because, if you had waited until you actually could/would play the game. in all likelihood, the game would be cheaper? In theory, the xbox should be the ideal console since you wouldn't develop a backlog. Because I love having games that i don't play too. Is that what they call a paradox or is it just irony? Game pass would be the perfect substitute over accumulating a massive backlog. I admit that I completely glossed over the part where a lot of people just don't care for the exclusives on the xbox one, and that's perfectly valid. I just find the back log dilemma humorous.
lefty1117
Gold Member
I think OP is exactly the type of customer that MS is aiming for with Game Pass. They aren't doing this for xbox owners that already own a ton of games. They're doing this to entice new people to dive in. $499 for the most powerful console and then $10/month for a great games library? even adding the EA pass for another $5 ... it's a heck of a deal IMO. Or don't buy the game pass and spend that money on what, two games a year?
How do you figure?
I’ve had an OG XB1, an S and now an X and have been subbed to GamePass since it launched.
thelastword
Banned
Xbox gamepass is no better a system seller than PLUS monthly games and PS-NOW. Microsoft hyping up first party releases landing day an date on the service is just hyperbole against the grain of dying first party franchises or games which we don't even know when they're going to release in the first place, in essence, games which have no firm release date. So you're telling me, I should USAIN BOLT to a best buy right now to buy an XBONEX with gamepass in the hopes of playing Halo 6 in 2019, or the next Gears, or the next Forza? How about Crackdown, when is that coming or the next Fable? Let's be clear here, these franchises are dwindling. This is not MS trying to do good for the gamer, they're just trying to save face.........You really believe MS would not want to sell more copies of first party tiles at $60.00?
I look at game-pass and it's not really impressive atm, lot of indies, lots of 360 games, lots of old multiplats like F1 2015 et al. People move on, they've played those. MS trying to butter gamepass with their first party titles is a desperate move but also a double whammy. Gamepass adoption has been ho-hum, clearly, so they try to sweeten the deal....However, where the double whammy comes is that MS first party is almost inexistent and dying, many people don't care anymore or they're delayed and cancelled out the wazoo. This is not going to help MS. Paying $120.00 a year for a majority of games which you will not play, for a morsel slate of first party titles diminished in appeal and where you have no idea when they're coming either way. How is that going to help MS? How is that going to improve sales of Halo 6 and Forza 8 at the NPD instead of just eschewing sales even more.
I see the 170 games on gamepass and if you think the games on there, with the promise of Halo in 2019, fable or crackdown or whatever else and whenever they release is going to save MS, then you're in for a rude awkening.....The other question is this, what happens to gamepass when XBOXTWO-X debuts in 2019 or 2020? Will all the hot new gen graphic games come in day 1 on gamepass too or will gamepass quadruple in price by then. I don't know where you going with this OP, but all the hype on gamepass is just from a select few. Gamepass is no system seller, but I'll be happy to see how it evolves next gen, I've given you a hint, but I'll stay peeled to see it unfold none-the-less.......
I look at game-pass and it's not really impressive atm, lot of indies, lots of 360 games, lots of old multiplats like F1 2015 et al. People move on, they've played those. MS trying to butter gamepass with their first party titles is a desperate move but also a double whammy. Gamepass adoption has been ho-hum, clearly, so they try to sweeten the deal....However, where the double whammy comes is that MS first party is almost inexistent and dying, many people don't care anymore or they're delayed and cancelled out the wazoo. This is not going to help MS. Paying $120.00 a year for a majority of games which you will not play, for a morsel slate of first party titles diminished in appeal and where you have no idea when they're coming either way. How is that going to help MS? How is that going to improve sales of Halo 6 and Forza 8 at the NPD instead of just eschewing sales even more.
I see the 170 games on gamepass and if you think the games on there, with the promise of Halo in 2019, fable or crackdown or whatever else and whenever they release is going to save MS, then you're in for a rude awkening.....The other question is this, what happens to gamepass when XBOXTWO-X debuts in 2019 or 2020? Will all the hot new gen graphic games come in day 1 on gamepass too or will gamepass quadruple in price by then. I don't know where you going with this OP, but all the hype on gamepass is just from a select few. Gamepass is no system seller, but I'll be happy to see how it evolves next gen, I've given you a hint, but I'll stay peeled to see it unfold none-the-less.......
Nikana
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Son_of_Zardoz
Banned
For someone who hates Xbox as much as you do, why do you enjoy shitting up Microsoft threads? It's obvious that you cannot help yourself, I'm just curious about why you enjoy it so much.
Stop reading there after ridiculous statement!
A streaming service (ps now) that has limited resolution, and hit or miss performance. Compared to a service where you download the game completely, has no resolution restrictions, and day and date first party titles ( Xbox Game Pass).
A monthly on line service with inferior game matchmaking and member perks like changing your gamer tag, that also doesn't allow you to keep some of your monthly games if you cancel the subscription. Compared to the premier service that is the best in the industry and you can keep every monthly game even if you quit your subscription.
Yea sure they are equal system sellers...
Artistic
Member
I'll have to look at the library of Game Pass, but most games seem to be a least a year or more past their original release dates. It's perfect to me for those looking for a cheap or more accessible entry to next gen gaming compared to just purchasing one game for X amount of dollars. Convenience could just be for having a wide array of games to play at any moment, even better if you're interested in playing/purchasing a game and it's in the Game Pass as well.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
They enjoy stirring conflict. Probably get picked on at school and this is their way of being noticed. Instead of just trying it out for a month and see if it's for them or not they would rather write long essays about why it's bad even though it's just another option. I guess we should all blame Netflix for why there are so many superhero movies. We can't mention that Daredevil and Punisher were great, we must be as negative as possible.
MilkyJoe
Member
Stop talking crap, mate and I only read the first sentence.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
You're delusional.
Feel free to debate the points raised, but this doesn't stand. Tone it down with the personal stuff or step out.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Sure, no problem.
I could see Game Pass taking off but I really doubt any other publisher is going to be willing to offer first rate games on launch day.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
You won't see new 3rd party titles day 1 on Gamepass, unless it's published by MS. You will see them year and a half or 2 years later on Gamepass after launch. And no, it's not a console seller and it won't be.
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Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Well my buddy is Boston just bought an X after being on the fence for awhile specifically because of the game pass announcement.
So....
it_wasn't_me
Banned
That's a 1. I know bunch of people too and they don't care. If that is a system seller, we would already see some boost in sales since last year. Oh wait...nothing happened.
If your buddy expect a new 3rd party title a day 1 on gamepass, he will be disappointed.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
But that's not what you said. You said it's not a system seller. As in it won't push people to buy consoles.
Except it did.
Just because you and your friends don't care doesn't mean other people won't.
But I can see you're just set on spreading FUD so have a good day.
it_wasn't_me
Banned
Except it didn't.
And just because you and your buddy care means it's a system seller. Right? Right. So, you're opinion is relevant. I spreading FUD because Gamepass didn't pushed Xbones sales during last year in US, but "pity" Switch and PS4 outsold it for the whole 2017 in US. It didn't boost sales and Xbone is down YOY in US. Gamepass is on Xbone for more than a year now.
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VAL0R
Banned
The value is so obvious, it's a little ridiculous to say otherwise. I just bought GamePass a month or two ago. I've been playing Gears 4 and loving it (Horde mode is a blast) and the game looks stunning. My teenage son was recently asking me to buy him Halo Wars 2 but I never had to because it launched on GP. I just played through Gears Judgement and that was cool. My other teenage son's go-to is Halo 5. My daughter is loving Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise. The kids play RIME and solve the puzzles together, etc. I mean, the value is huge here. All these plus over a hundred other games, plus new games every month, plus ALL MS published games Day 1!? It's silly man.
VAL0R
Banned
Honestly, between XBL Gold and GamePass, I don't know if I'm even going to buy games anymore, except maybe an amazing AAA, universally acclaimed 9.5 metacritic in my preferred genres.
For $15 a month (Gold+GP), Microsoft is throwing tons of games at me. So many I won't be able to play them all.
For $15 a month (Gold+GP), Microsoft is throwing tons of games at me. So many I won't be able to play them all.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
I see the usual post I expect from you and of coarse its a system seller as is playstation now, the plus points to gamepass over NOW are you don't need a great internet connection to enjoy the games at full quality. new games coming to it to are huge, nobody else does this currently in the market and will shift gamepass to millions of xbox owners and tempt more people into buying and xbox one.playstation now is also good but the games are not on there day one
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VertigoOA
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I won't be buying any games for my bone x. I'm strictly just gonna stay subbed to gamespass and milk it. It's not my primary gaming machine, the PS4 is, and there's huge gap in quality and volume of exclusive software between the two. Great idea however.
Physical mediums are dead. I welcome this digital future.
Now get rid of disc drives
Physical mediums are dead. I welcome this digital future.
Now get rid of disc drives
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
So to take this thread in a slightly different direction without making a new topic.
What GamePass games have you discovered you really enjoyed that you wouldnt have purchased? Or possibly what new games you looking forward to?
Honestly I would not have paid a full price game tag for Sea of Thieves but can not wait to play it via GamePass.
What GamePass games have you discovered you really enjoyed that you wouldnt have purchased? Or possibly what new games you looking forward to?
Honestly I would not have paid a full price game tag for Sea of Thieves but can not wait to play it via GamePass.
FF:Enhanced_Reality
Member
This is very much a concern for me. I don't own an XBOX and while it does sound like great value for money, I love my collection. I can look in my cabinet, pull out a game and enjoy a sense of ownership. But it does hurt retailers. Not only that but how do they monetise publishers and developers? Surely it benefits developers more than publishers but I really don't buy into games as a service. I might be old fashioned, but I'd rather buy my games.
EA Access however, I do think is the exception to the rule. When a new FIFA, Madden, NHL etc. comes out, the old version in many ways is obsolete and immediately loses 90% of it's value. These titles too are released year on year. You see it with Call of Duty and previously, Assassins Creed. The moment the new one comes out, the old one shoots down in value. If you're only going to own a sports game for a year and there won't be a great deal of playing it after the new release it out, then EA Access totally makes sense.
That being said, I can see games like that becoming an independent app that's just consistently updated. I bet you'd eat through a stock 500GB HDD in no time.
astroglide
Member
I feel the same way. The beta was ok but I wouldn't spend money on it. now that its gonna eb on gamepass Ill be allin day one. same with crackdown. When it comes to other games I actually really do want this has me me more excited. state of decay 2 is one of my most anticipated games this year and now I get to play it for $10.
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