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[Ulysses 31]

While they are their own company and they can do what they want I can't help but feel disappointed that they would allow and encourage such things.

Giving more choice to customers is disappointing? 0o

If you couldn't filter those titles away you may have had a point.

And allowing is not the same as encouraging.

 

[Sakura]

I don't really know how I feel about this. It's cool, I guess. But I don't really want to see a bunch of internet folk suddenly taking arms against my eroge.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I don't really know how I feel about this. It's cool, I guess. But I don't really want to see a bunch of internet folk suddenly taking arms against my eroge.

They already have been for years now. This isn't anything new.

While they are their own company and they can do what they want I can't help but feel disappointed that they would allow and encourage such things.

They aren't encouraging anyone to buy the games. You can continue to use Steam and never see them unless you specifically toggle them in your settings. The only way this would affect you is if you, for some reason, feel the need to control what others play.

 

[Javthusiast]

^
Exactly. And it's not like the advertise taht you have this option. Most steam users won't ever see it and therefire won't even know these games are on steam.

 

[Javthusiast]

^Sorry for the double post and typos, I seem to not have the ability to edit my posts yet. xD

 

[Ixiah]

Kotaku and other unimportant Propaganda Blogs are screaming.
Nothing important happened today.

 

[petran79]

Hope this means the dozens of edited ero games get uncensor patches officially instead of referring to external sites

Only exception would be imaginary underage characters sex scenes, bestiality etc

 

[Winter's End]

If Valve didn't do it someone else would claim the market sooner or later.

 

[Javthusiast]

The resetera got locked btw and this game mentioned in the OP got put on the banned games list. xD

 

[infinitys_7th]

Good. Let the consumers decide, rather than elitist curators.

There is no good reason to have curation of digital goods.

The resetera got locked btw and this game mentioned in the OP got put on the banned games list. xD

Can we just call this sort of thing what it is?

Memory-holing

 

[iconmaster]

 

[MayauMiao]

So now that Valve allows adult games, when can we see DOA Xtreme 3 on the PC?

 

[Winter's End]

The resetera got locked btw and this game mentioned in the OP got put on the banned games list. xD

I'm kinda glad i got banned there (again) by now that place is run by lunatics in my opinion...

 

[yeahokaywhatever]

It's more for the I don't want folks going to jail for underage cartoon porn.

I just read up on the cases where that's happened. Holy crap.

 

[SonGoku]

Because games are mostly associated with kids.

That's the problem... kids playing m rated games which they shouldn't in the first place

 

[Ulysses 31]

I'm kinda glad i got banned there (again) by now that place is run by lunatics in my opinion...

What did you say to get banned?

 

[NahaNago]

I just read up on the cases where that's happened. Holy crap.

I'm not really sure what case your talking about but yeah, just because it can be sold as a product from a legit company doesn't mean you won't get into trouble for owning it.

 

[Virex]

Can't wait for the Kotaku, Polygon, Eurogamer etc. "games journalism" meltdown articles

 

[Winter's End]

What did you say to get banned?

I just tried to be decent human being and didn't spit on TB's grave in the recent thread about Blizzard doing a charity sale for his Widow and Child there and that was allrdy enough for another temp ban.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I just tried to be decent human being and didn't spit on TB's grave in the recent thread about Blizzard doing a charity sale for his Widow and Child there and that was allrdy enough for another temp ban.

That place sure loves to suck the steam off their own shit.

 

[Hudo]

Can't wait for the Kotaku, Polygon, Eurogamer etc. "games journalism" meltdown articles

Well, I expect even those guys to have at least some sort of cognitive capabilities to see that this is a good thing. If there's stuff like Doom or Wolfenstein or Call of Duty allowed then why not pornographic stuff as well? And if someone says "Think of the kids!", then pornographic games are very certainly 18+/M rated (as are Doom, Wolfenstein, etc. by the way!) and shouldn't be played by kids anyway.

This move is long, long overdue. So it's a good thing that Valve are finally stepping up in that regard.

 

[Pejo]

Great news. I'm all for customer choice. Good on ya, Valve

 

[SonGoku]

^Sorry for the double post and typos, I seem to not have the ability to edit my posts yet. xD

5 min limit fyi

 

[Thurible]

Well, I expect even those guys to have at least some sort of cognitive capabilities to see that this is a good thing. If there's stuff like Doom or Wolfenstein or Call of Duty allowed then why not pornographic stuff as well? And if someone says "Think of the kids!", then pornographic games are very certainly 18+/M rated (as are Doom, Wolfenstein, etc. by the way!) and shouldn't be played by kids anyway.

This move is long, long overdue. So it's a good thing that Valve are finally stepping up in that regard.

There is a difference between a fps and a sex game. With an fps you aren't actually shooting people and the goal is to have fun. With a sex game you are trying to get yourself aroused, you are taking the game very seriously.

I think there is a big difference pretending to kill imaginary people versus pretending to have intimate relations with an imaginary person. The intent and action is very different.

Also, kids get there hands on "adult" games like shooters all the time, what's to prevent them for getting these "adult" games. Kids lie about their age all the time.

 

[Helios]

and this game mentioned in the OP got put on the banned games list.

They have a list of games they're not allowed to talk about? What the fuck

 

[Javthusiast]

I'm kinda glad i got banned there (again) by now that place is run by lunatics in my opinion...

I half expected to be banned by now today for voicing my opinion on the netflix ciri situation. Got reply's from other users basically telling me that wanting a popular established character stay as it was created was a form of racism etc. But the mods didn't do anything ...yet, lol.

You truly have to be like on eggshells. The smallest disagreement and they ban you.

 

[DeepEnigma]

There is a difference between a fps and a sex game. With an fps you aren't actually shooting people and the goal is to have fun. With a sex game you are trying to get yourself aroused, you are taking the game very seriously.

I think there is a big difference pretending to kill imaginary people versus pretending to have intimate relations with an imaginary person. The intent and action is very different.

Also, kids get there hands on "adult" games like shooters all the time, what's to prevent them for getting these "adult" games. Kids lie about their age all the time.

That is up to the parents to instill proper parental controls. The tools are there, Valve has done their part.

 

[DeepEnigma]

They have a list of games they're not allowed to talk about? What the fuck

V. List of Prohibited Games

As a general measuring stick, if a game is not appropriate for broadcast on Twitch it is unlikely to be appropriate here. Do not discuss these games or create threads about them. Games that are not on the Twitch list will only be considered for prohibition if the staff receives a complaint from the community. After review, the following games have also been prohibited:

Dungeon Travelers 2: The Royal Library
Gal Gun
Hatred
Huniepop
Monster Monpiece
Negligee: Love Stories
Omega Labyrinth Z
Shinobi Refle: Senran Kagura
Super Seducer: How to Talk to Girls
Super Seducer 2
Tits N Tanks

https://www.resetera.com/threads/general-faq.9777/

They even have a list of banned people in the industry as well.

Colin being one of them.

 

[Thurible]

That is up to the parents to instill proper parental controls. The tools are there, Valve has done their part.

What's with the gif? What is wrong with what I said?

 

[yeahokaywhatever]

I'm not really sure what case your talking about but yeah, just because it can be sold as a product from a legit company doesn't mean you won't get into trouble for owning it.

Canadian man went to court for hentai that's the case I read up on. He went to court for "obsene" material. Hell, even Neil Gaiman was defending the dude.

 

[DeepEnigma]

What's with the gif? What is wrong with what I said?

You are generalizing with false equivalency (opinion) since both feed the same receptors in the brain as far as dopamine release.

 

[Thurible]

You are generalizing with false equivalency (opinion) since both feed the same receptors in the brain as far as dopamine release.

There is a HUGE difference between playing a videogame and trying to masturbate. Do you think there is no difference? Do you think porn is ok? Why?

 

[DeepEnigma]

There is a HUGE difference between playing a videogame and trying to masturbate. Do you think there is no difference? Do you think porn is ok? Why?

People (especially teens) masturbate regardless, so I do not get your argument here.

 

[Zangiefy360]

As a kid, I used to laugh at the puritanical adults that thought everything they didn't like was leading to the decay of society. It's funny to grow up and see people doing the same exactly thing, except this time it isn't just the evangelicals leading the charge.

If you don't like the game, don't buy it! If you like the game, go for it, more power to you! Relax, take it easy, and it's OK if someone enjoys video games that contain content that goes against your belief system, because chances are their belief system is not the same as yours.

 

[Thurible]

People (especially teens) masturbate regardless, so I do not get your argument here.

I don't. I personally believe pornography hurts spousal relationships. It idealizes fantasy women and makes sex about just feeling good, not about self giving. There is actually a lot of research on this issue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ps...ch-support/201407/what-porn-does-intimacy?amp

When I pretend to kill zombies or bad guys I am not rationalizing it as a real thing. With porn I would be actually wanting/thinking about having relations with an imaginary person. Does this make sense?

 

[Hudo]

There is a difference between a fps and a sex game. With an fps you aren't actually shooting people and the goal is to have fun. With a sex game you are trying to get yourself aroused, you are taking the game very seriously.

I think there is a big difference pretending to kill imaginary people versus pretending to have intimate relations with an imaginary person. The intent and action is very different.

Also, kids get there hands on "adult" games like shooters all the time, what's to prevent them for getting these "adult" games. Kids lie about their age all the time.

You are saying that FPS games are not really about shooting people but are mainly about fun. The same principle can acutally be applied about pornographic games.
Sex games are a different sort of fun. Sex games fulfill a different fantasy, FPS games (usually) fulfill the power fantasy. That's also a sort of fun. I don't see how pretending to have sex or look at digital people is worse than killing/hurting digital people.

And if we talk about intentions, then I have to say that having sex and looking at naked people is not as harmful of an intent than killing/hurting people.
Ultimately, both things are not intended for kids.

That's just my opinion anyway.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I don't. I personally believe pornography hurts spousal relationships. It idealizes fantasy women and makes sex about just feeling good, not about self giving. There is actually a lot of research on this issue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/201407/what-porn-does-intimacy?amp

When I pretend to kill zombies or bad guys I am not rationalizing it as a real thing. With porn I would be actually wanting/thinking about having relations with an imaginary person. Does this make sense?

Nope, because you are taking on the role of killing an imaginary person.

There is a lot of research that consuming violent media makes one more aggressive as well, but we all scoff at that as gamers, amirite?

http://communication.oxfordre.com/v...190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-1

To summarize, media violence exposure leads to higher levels of aggression. This finding is supported by a large number of studies utilizing a wide variety of methodological approaches. The connection between media violence and aggressive behavior is explained by many different mediational processes. Violent media exposure can change what is considered socially acceptable, how the environment is perceived, and how we feel about violence. All these processes combined lead a higher levels of aggressive behavior. Although an appealing explanation, there is almost no evidence for the opposite argument (i.e., the catharsis theory), that violent media help people to “vent steam” and thus reduce aggression.

Additionally, the effects of violent media are not limited to aggressive behavior. There is also substantial evidence linking violent media exposure to problems with attention, impulsivity, and executive functioning as well as reductions in empathy and prosocial behavior.

 

[Thurible]

Nope, because you are taking on the role of killing an imaginary person.

So you are saying when people play porn games they are NOT trying to get in the pants of an imaginary person? There is less of a disconnect with porn. With an fps I am not actually wanting to kill anyone.

When I play a videogame I am not going to kill anyone after the game is over and it doesn't lead to possibly deviant behavior. Porn on the other hand leads to more porn and experiments with different sexual ideas.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So you are saying when people play porn games they are NOT trying to get in the pants of an imaginary person? There is less of a disconnect with porn. With an fps I am not actually wanting to kill anyone.

When I play a videogame I am not going to kill anyone after the game is over and it doesn't lead to possibly deviant behavior. Porn on the other hand leads to more porn and experiments with different sexual ideas.

Goodness.

 

[iconmaster]

Some of what's going on in this discussion are assumptions about the game's content. I looked up a brief trailer, and didn't see any sexual content. It's at least not non-stop 100% pornography.

The question of frank depictions of sex in media is never an easy one, as we've seen.

Edit: the "never" matters

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

This is great news if you like sexy girls in video games. I do.

 

[lukilladog]

They are taking VR to the next level

I don't. I personally believe pornography hurts spousal relationships. It idealizes fantasy women and makes sex about just feeling good, not about self giving. There is actually a lot of research on this issue.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/tech-support/201407/what-porn-does-intimacy?amp

When I pretend to kill zombies or bad guys I am not rationalizing it as a real thing. With porn I would be actually wanting/thinking about having relations with an imaginary person. Does this make sense?

Dude, no one divorces more than those that hold beliefs like yours, you should attack that first.

 

[Nymphae]

Goodness.

I think he is making a good point. You don't kill people in games because you feel motivated to kill a human. You will watch porn and probably play porn games because you are motivated by horniness.

 

[iconmaster]

Dude, no one divorces more than those that hold beliefs like yours, you should attack that first.

I don't think you can make this claim. Divorce rates are hard to measure in general.

You don't kill people in games because you feel motivated to kill a human. You will watch porn and probably play porn games because you are motivated by horniness.

Right.

Again, to be completely fair -- these games do not seem to be non-stop hardcore cartoon sex. But let's call a spade a spade.

 

[Nymphae]

I don't think you can make this claim. Divorce rates are hard to measure in general.



Right.

Again, to be completely fair -- these games do not seem to be non-stop hardcore cartoon sex. But let's call a spade a spade.

I remain unconvinced that a significant number of people that watch porn/play porn games "read it for the articles" lol

 

[Thurible]

They are taking VR to the next level

Dude, no one divorces more than those that hold beliefs like yours, you should attack that first.

So are you saying that porn and masturbation helps marriages? I really don't think so. If you are there intimately only for your spouse it should make sex all the more special.

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

I play AO games for the gameplay.

 

[plushyp]

They have a list of games they're not allowed to talk about? What the fuck

This isn't anything new. I remember there being a list here as well for some games like Hatred.

 

[hecatomb]

 

[Fujan]

So are you saying that porn and masturbation helps marriages? I really don't think so. If you are there intimately only for your spouse it should make sex all the more special.

Yes it can definitely help with a marriage, eases up on talking about fetishes or watch it together. Finding out what your SO likes plays a big part in intimicy. And if the sex drives of the partners don't match up, what's wrong with one of them masturbating?

Anyway I'm 100% fine with this decision, it's not for me but there's no harm in having it either for the people that want it.