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[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

I just wanna say, I really love this place.

I joined a while ago, I think it was February and it was slow going at first, in fact I think I barely posted at all for a couple of months.

I was just getting a feel for this place, but now that I since feel comfortable I've really fallen in love with this community.

This place is really bringing back good memories of the way the internet was a decade ago, back when you could just freely discuss things and not be harassed for having a different opinion, when you could joke around a bit and not worry about being given a real hard time.

The internet has really gone to shit over the last 4 years, there's another community around that I used to be a really active part of and it's a pathetic shadow of its former self, infected by the SJW mindset, most of its members are gone now, it's really sad to see something like that happen, but I find myself going back less and less because it's getting harder to deal with SJWs' bullshit, now that I have a good alternative.

And this place on the other hand, it's so refreshing, it's like an oasis.

And hey, I like that it's not an echo chamber either, I like that we have differing opinions and views but people have a good attitude and keep it civil, like I said, it's the way the internet used to be.

So keep on being awesome, everyone.

 

[captainraincoat]

It's a much slower pace but it's a much more sane place with meaningful conversation and is moderated with light touch which is great.

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

It's a much slower pace but it's a much more sane place with meaningful conversation and is moderated with light touch which is great.

This is busy for me, a lot of forums are lucky to get a handful of posts a day now.

 

[Dunki]

This is busy for me, a lot of forums are lucky to get a handful of posts a day now.

Yeah I saw that. Even forums like Gamespot have not much traffic these days. The old gaf and new Era are pretty special in this regard. Many also switched to discord it seems

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Yeah I saw that. Even forums like Gamespot have not much traffic these days. The old gaf and new Era are pretty special in this regard. Many also switched to discord it seems

Forums are a pretty old fashioned thing, but it's always been my preferred method of communicating with others online.

 

[JordanN]

I'm fortunate I mostly browse forums where it's just a small group of people talking about a shared interest/hobby. Any politics is usually relegated to its own politics section or people can discuss their opinions openly without fear of bias/dogpile.

But I can understand when you look at bigger forums and you can instantly see the hivemind full of feminists/racebaiters ready to pounce and inject their toxin into every thread.

 

[Patrick S.]

Yeah, GAF is cool. I used to hang out on PlanetCrap, which sadly finally shut down a few months ago. That site was slower and less frequented, too, but used to have some game devs and industry folk that hung out there. The cool thing was that there was virtually no moderation, yet people mostly got along. I think you needed to murder someone to get banned there, heh. Different era

 

[Catphish]

Yep, I'm a fan. Not only of the forum itself, but also of Tyler, who weathered the biggest toddler storm I've ever witnessed, and came out the other side like Andy Dufresne.

 

[yeahokaywhatever]

We luv u 2, bb.

 

[Mr Nash]

Yeah I saw that. Even forums like Gamespot have not much traffic these days. The old gaf and new Era are pretty special in this regard. Many also switched to discord it seems

Yeah, most people seem to have gone to either Reddit or Discord these days. It's extremely rare to see a privately owned forum with healthy levels of activity, which makes this place all the more special.

 

[Makariel]

My attention span is too long for reddit, hence I prefer this place for gaming discussions

 

[Kacho]

Yeah this place is pretty nice now. Compared to other forums I use this place is poppin'.

 

[J-Roderton]

 

[Ecto311]

It seems like it's speeding up. I wonder if others like me during the october shitshow realized that there are other things to do. With this site down for a bit I found some other things to take my attention and just haven't been as active around here or anywhere like it since. I also like that the mods comment and bust peoples balls for doing dumb shit instead of just shutting them down with a ban.

Also the bans that do come along with an explanation are nice. This place is a lot better the only downside I can see is that 8-4 and giantbomb type places still have threads they refer to on the other site and don't talk about here anymore. I imagine that shit drives a lot of traffic because instead of diving into the story and giving this place a chance they just all jumped ship. They also shit on doc disrespect for what happened there too when he has done more positive for the community than bad but no one talks about that.

This place is so good now I don't need to go to voat to really say what I want to say. Granted it was never that edgy but considering some of my past bans for simple shit voat was a knee jerk fix for saying what I wanted about here.

 

[King of Foxes]

I love you too John Lee Packard. I hope you have a good day with positive attitude and remember that you choose your mood so make it happy.

 

[Rock And Roll]

I love all of you and I'm not even drunk so it's genuine

 

[King of Foxes]

I love you too Rock and Roll. Don't you ever change and remember a rolling rock gathers no moss.

 

[John Day]

Yup, you people rock. Love it.

 

[TrainedRage]

 

[5secondrulesucks]

thanks man

 

[Woffls]

Pretty sure I post more now than before the thing happened. I didn't really bother before because I assumed any posts would either be ignored completely or picked out by some disingenuous twat looking for something with which to disagree. New gaf is more welcoming; I just wish I could remember names and avatars

 

[ipukespiders]

I love you, Gaf.

I had a little help, but I'll take all the credit.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Pretty chill forum at the moment.
It's cool that I actually recognize many posters. Kinda has a club feeling to it, whereas old GAF was very anonymous except for perhaps the admins and certain people that extremely pissed you off.

 

[Hudo]

Yeah, I give GAF a solid 5/7 as well!

 

[TFGB]

I had to Google ‘SJW’ and I’m still unsure of its true meaning. So out of touch.

 

[captainraincoat]

I had to Google ‘SJW’ and I’m still unsure of its true meaning. So out of touch.

On era it's pretty much the endgame

 

[EviLore]

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Yeah, most people seem to have gone to either Reddit or Discord these days. It's extremely rare to see a privately owned forum with healthy levels of activity, which makes this place all the more special.

I'm sure Reddit especially has sapped a LOT of people from around the net.

I've never been able to quite wrap my head around Reddit enough to spend a lot of time there, I just don't like the layout, it's halfway between 4chan and a forum.

PLus just the size of it is overwhelming, I prefer tighter knit communities like this one.

On era it's pretty much the endgame

That is funny.

Thank you, Mr Lore.

 

[WinterIsComing]

Love you too, man.

 

[pimentel1]

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[Can't decide]

Been browsing Neogaf for the best part of a decade now, mostly as a source for gaming news, but was never really inclined to sign up until these past couple of months.

I hadn't bothered before knowing that it probably wouldn't have been long before I'd be banned, belittled or "humiliated" for wanting to hear perspectives from all sides first and not jumping to conclusions. I really had a disdain for the "must be guilty" and mob mentality that was around and the constant hypocrisy from people irked me a lot. I've always favored facts and logic over feelings, and I'm not very PC about it either, it seemed like if you didn't fit the grain you weren't welcome.

I'm glad that crowd and atmosphere has pretty much gone, it'll never be positive or productive.

 

[Kenpachii]

Love this site in its current form.

 

[GermanZepp]

I love the Newgaf too. Don't forget to check some amazing classic threads like:

1-"The one with the guy showing is asshole to his girlfriends parents in the stairs" 10/10
2-"The one with the cover art of streets of rage" 10/10
3-"The one with the faceswap app" 9/10

*Names of the threads not acually like that.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

It's a much slower pace but it's a much more sane place with meaningful conversation and is moderated with light touch which is great.

The positive about the slower pace is that you start to recognize people far more easily. Quality over quantity.

 

[LaughingStock]

My attention span is too long for reddit, hence I prefer this place for gaming discussions

I like reddit but in my experience it is like 90% memes and puns and very little discussion.

 

[Humdinger]

Yeah, I'm really enjoying it, too. Good morale among the members. Good moderation (very light touch, "minimal necessary force" principle, none of the old SJW policing of speech and opinion). I see a bunch of members who seem happy to be here. A variety of viewpoints is welcome, which is a big change and a big relief and a big contrast with other forums. It's quickly become a favorite hangout of mine. I like the relatively small size, too. You can have conversations and get to know people, rather than just be lost in a vast sea of posters. And yet there's more than enough activity to keep relevant discussions going.

I like the positive momentum, too. You can feel the forum getting back on its feet after being knocked down. It's smaller than before, but it's stronger and healthier. It's a fun place to be. I also like the sense that I'm on the underdog team. I always liked rooting for the underdog.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

I like reddit but in my experience it is like 90% memes and puns and very little discussion.

Plus the majority of the community doesn't seem to grasp the point of the downvote system. Instead of downvoting trash tier posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, thus burying them to make the thread reading experience smoother, people just downvote any opinion that differs from there's because they simply cannot handle and live with the idea that somebody somewhere disagrees with them. Regardless of whether or not said opinion is properly presented.

Just goes to show that a lot of people online are simply weak minded and would rather live in an echo chamber than have a proper back and forth discussion. Hell, that was the problem GAF had before the exodus.

 

[Mochilador]

Welcome to the family, son.

 

[Scopa]

 

[BANGS]

We love you brother...

 

[Avasarala]

 

[KINGMOKU]

Love all around.

 

[Hudo]

I love the Newgaf too. Don't forget to check some amazing classic threads like:

1-"The one with the guy showing is asshole to his girlfriends parents in the stairs" 10/10
2-"The one with the cover art of streets of rage" 10/10
3-"The one with the faceswap app" 9/10

*Names of the threads not acually like that.

The racist salad thread is also pretty dope.

 

[RokkanStoned]

I agree with you that the environment has become better, though I don't like the use of the word "SJW", when it'd be far more neutral to refer to authoritarian or toxic or grandstanding people, which often is what people actually mean with the word. Same reason I dislike the use of the word "leftist", it's often not a productive term and it just feeds into tribalism.

Most important to me is how we've been getting humor back and also people treating each other better across the political spectrum.

Spoiler: True love

Vita is love. Vita is life.

 

[Tesseract]

are you pulling my dick, bro?

 

[Humdinger]

I agree with you that the environment has become better, though I don't like the use of the word "SJW", when it'd be far more neutral to refer to authoritarian or toxic or grandstanding people, which often is what people actually mean with the word.

Why do we need to use neutral language? I prefer SJW. Part of the reason why is that it captures an ideology, personality, set of political beliefs, and a pattern of behavior in a small acronym. I agree that it gets overused, but the main reason for that is because it's so useful. It's a lot easier than the trying to describe the behavior and ideology each time. Calling someone "grandstanding" doesn't capture it, and "toxic" is vague.

Honestly, I also like using SJW because one of the characteristics of SJWs is that they like to police speech and tell other people what words they should be using. They don't want me using SJW. So I'll keep using it, just to annoy them.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

I used to have a memorable avatar but she died fast and was an anime nazi so I replaced her with worst girl from boobsninjas.

I forgive you. But how do you feel about this?

Spoiler

 

[RokkanStoned]

Why do we need to use neutral language? I prefer SJW. Part of the reason why is that it captures an ideology, personality, set of political beliefs, and a pattern of behavior in a small acronym. I agree that it gets overused, but the main reason for that is because it's so useful. It's a lot easier than the trying to describe the behavior and ideology each time. Calling someone "grandstanding" doesn't capture it, and "toxic" is vague.

Honestly, I also like using SJW because one of the characteristics of SJWs is that they like to police speech and tell other people what words they should be using. They don't want me using SJW. So I'll keep using it, just to annoy them.

You use neutral language so you can communicate to a breadth of people and to avoid political tribalism. There are plenty examples of people who want to police speech or tell others what words they should be using on the right side of the political spectrum. Would you call them SJWs? Of course not, because it's a highly charged term, also doubly working as an identifier of yourself as well due to using it.

Using "SJW" is often a simplification and setting up a convenient simplification and drawing ideological lines. Instead "toxic" might be what they actually mean, or they might mean that the person is grandstanding and being a hypocrite, or they might mean that someone is being authoritarian and trying to strong arm opinions to emotional appeals and peer pressure. They might even be connected, but most of the time it's better to just call out the person for what they do, instead of falling into "omg such an sjw". If people that view themselves as "anti-sjw" fall into the same tactics or binary thinking, then I don't think that's good either. I always had a problem when people just outright dismissed and one-lined people's criticisms of sexualization in games, even though I personally disagree with the concept of the sexualization in games as being bad.

 

[Humdinger]

You use neutral language so you can communicate to a breadth of people and to avoid political tribalism. There are plenty examples of people who want to police speech or tell others what words they should be using on the right side of the political spectrum. Would you call them SJWs? Of course not, because it's a highly charged term, also doubly working as an identifier of yourself as well due to using it.

Using "SJW" is often a simplification and setting up a convenient simplification and drawing ideological lines. Instead "toxic" might be what they actually mean, or they might mean that the person is grandstanding and being a hypocrite, or they might mean that someone is being authoritarian and trying to strong arm opinions to emotional appeals and peer pressure. They might even be connected, but most of the time it's better to just call out the person for what they do, instead of falling into "omg such an sjw". If people that view themselves as "anti-sjw" fall into the same tactics or binary thinking, then I don't think that's good either. I always had a problem when people just outright dismissed and one-lined people's criticisms of sexualization in games, even though I personally disagree with the concept of the sexualization in games as being bad.

I don't see "plenty" of speech policing on the right. It seems to come almost entirely from the left. Maybe it's there on the right somewhere, but I haven't seen it. Certainly not at the level it comes from on the left.

I don't like the idea of eliminating useful terms and adopting more neutral language in order to avoid potential polarization. I like words that do the job, that have specificity and weight to them. SJW is one of those. It's popular for a reason -- it captures and ridicules a certain type of person. It's a good term. I'll keep using it until there is a better one which captures that type of person (politics, ideology, behavioral patterns, etc).

 

[Scopa]

Well, they told us we can’t use “retards” anymore, so...