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[nowhat]

WB has no plans for Superman or for it to be rebooted since henry cavill left you can stop holding your breath and hoping.

Just as a thought experiment - would it even be possible to make a good Superman game?

The guy is basically a god, most of the time. Introduce some kryptonite, and he's pretty much worthless. As far as superheroes go, I've always found that to be boring to the extreme. But as far as gameplay goes - how could that work?

 

[Aintitcool]

Just as a thought experiment - would it even be possible to make a good Superman game?

I bet you Factor 5's superman would have been good! But yeah you can make a good superman game, all you have to do is follow the metroid model, or metroid prime model(citizen kane of games after all) and just remove all his powers at first and slowly give them back to him while raising the enemies difficulty. Also lock away sections of the map because of lacking powers and have superman be close to death raising the tension. Make him fight without powers against hordes until batman saves him for example. And batman figures out how to give superman his powers slowly with the rest of the DC cast.

Supermans gameplay I would design with a mix of infamous and batman arkham since he is a hero that has long and short distance powers, as well as can fight with his fits like a bulldozer. So having attacks that sends enemies through walls and has cool destruction would be what I would write in design documents.

Imagine a game where you get ranked based on how few civilians and buildings you harm. So for S rank you have to learn to play like superman is and do it with the least damage as possible, and only harming the criminals, but non lethally.

 

[Lionel Richie]

Oh please don't call it Arkham Universe, that sounds unbuyably stupid.

 

[Airbus Jr]

I bet you Factor 5's superman good have been good! But yeah you can make a good superman game, all you have to do is follow the metroid model, or metroid prime model(citizen kane of games afterall) and just remove all his powers at first and slowly give them back to him while raising the enemies difficulty. Also lock away sections of the map because of lacking powers and have superman be close to death raising the tension. Make him fight without powers against hordes until batman saves him for example. And batman figures out how to give superman his powers slowly.

Tbh the idea for a Superman game is always absurd

Guys are on a planet destroyer lvl he has no problem dealing with thugs

He's so op that he can acidently kill villain like bane, two faces or joker with his own farts

Only a handfull of villain in DC universe that can compete with him

It will be much more interesting to see another superhero game like Wonder Women, Aquaman, or Green Lantern since their power are much more scalable for videogames

 

[Brizzo24]

This bit of news pleases me greatly! I am still swinging through Spider-Man, and loving every minute of it. A living/breathing Gotham would be the next step in the evolution of the Arkham franchise.

 

[Aintitcool]

Tbh the idea for a Superman game is always absurd

Guys are on a planet destroyer lvl he has no problem dealing with thugs

So is god of war. Kratos can kill titans and gods, but watch out during the non boss battles where he can be defeated by grunts.

 

[ThatStupidLion]

groan.

was really hoping for something new out of them.

 

[Airbus Jr]

So is god of war. Kratos can kill titans and gods, but watch out during the non boss battles where he can be defeated by grunts.

Not the same

Kratos is still mortal lvl when it comes to strength

The moment he beat Titans and God's he got help from others

He still fight like a regular Spartan hoplites and still need weapon to beat his enemies

Superman is on planetary level

He can push a planet Kratos can't do that

 

[Nymphae]

Gotham is now a “living, breathing city”

I am so tired of hearing this line.

 

[JimiNutz]

I'm sure it'll be a good game but if they were gonna do Batman again they should have done Batman Beyond in a crazy cyberpunk Gotham.

 

[nowhat]

I am so tired of hearing this line.

It may just mean "there are people in it, who get evacuated like in the first chapter".

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Current Gen, interesting

Origins is the best one thou...

 

[VulcanRaven]

Just as a thought experiment - would it even be possible to make a good Superman game?

The guy is basically a god, most of the time. Introduce some kryptonite, and he's pretty much worthless. As far as superheroes go, I've always found that to be boring to the extreme. But as far as gameplay goes - how could that work?

Superman Returns on Xbox 360 had some good ideas. The city was big in that game. Someone should a game like that but that is actually good. I'm sure it can be done with a big budget and a good developer.

 

[Raptomex]

To say the Arkham series is played out seems odd to me. Especially since there's other open world titles saturating the market with more games in their respective series which also release more frequently. With that said, that's not to say these games are flawless. Arkham Knight definitely had its share of problems but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed each game in the series if I'm being honest. I'm a fan of Batman and the series so I look forward to it if true.

 

[Punished Miku]

I'm not actually sick of Batman. I'm sick of open world games with checklist style systems that play very similarly.

If they manage to evolve the gameplay in actually meaningful ways then I'd be more than interested. I'm just afraid it's going to be more copy and paste from previous games. To their credit, they tried to add one entire new gameplay element with the batmobile in the last one. I fear that all they're adding is the coop and multiplayer stuff.

Even the alternate characters more or less feel identical. The stealth hasn't had any major changes or additions either.

 

[Alexander DeLarge]

This is a shame. I wanted the "true last hoorah" to be a Batman Beyond game. Also I wonder what this means for Mark Hamill's Joker.

 

[AgentP]

Not another one...

 

[Alebrije]

Another Batman!!

 

[Fbh]

Sounds like what I hoped Arkham Knight would be. Specially with the city actually being populated this time.
Still, after hearing so little about them in recent years and hearing all the other rumours I have to say, I'd be a bit disappointed if they just come out with yet another Batman game. I was looking forward to seeing what they could do with another franchise.

Tbh the idea for a Superman game is always absurd

Guys are on a planet destroyer lvl he has no problem dealing with thugs

He's so op that he can acidently kill villain like bane, two faces or joker with his own farts

Only a handfull of villain in DC universe that can compete with him

It will be much more interesting to see another superhero game like Wonder Women, Aquaman, or Green Lantern since their power are much more scalable for videogames

I think a Superman game could work. You'd just have to go crazy with it, make a somewhat linear but awesomely action packed and over the top spectacle. Let me punch the final boss through the moon and throw him into the sun or something.

For a generic open world sandbox game though, yeah, Superman wouldn't work

To say the Arkham series is played out seems odd to me. Especially since there's other open world titles saturating the market with more games in their respective series which also release more frequently. With that said, that's not to say these games are flawless. Arkham Knight definitely had its share of problems but I enjoyed it. I enjoyed each game in the series if I'm being honest. I'm a fan of Batman and the series so I look forward to it if true.

I think the thing with Batman, as opposed to a lot of other open world franchises, is that eventually it all starts feeling a bit samey. Like yeah Assassins Creed has way more games but it's constantly changing its main characters and going to new locations and time periods. Like Ezio is probably the most popular character in the franchise, but if we were still playing as him in ancient Italy people would be pretty tired of it already (more than they already are with the AC franchise).

 

[Aintitcool]

Current Gen, interesting

Origins is the best one thou...

Origins was so well made. Underappreciated because it wasn't rocksteady but like bioshock 2(also not made by original devs) it improved in many ways.

 

[Virex]

Why not a Nightwing game?

Of course you'd want to be the star in your own game Dick

 

[Solarstrike]

Into thy brain hastily. Put it.

 

[Blam]

What the fuck im in. Rocksteady knows this all too well and it sounds like we are gonna get a spiderman quality rocksteady game. I mean personally I think batman does it better but that's a hot take for another day,

 

[ShadowLag]

I literally just introduced my wife to the Arkham series a couple weeks ago, and got hooked on the challenge modes again.

Please let this be true....

 

[EDMIX]

I hope Gotham has taller buildings this time. I have always imagined Gotham like this:

Would nut if they did a Batman with this exact art direction.

Always wanted the team to also make a Batman Beyond game!

 

[Space Runaway]

Tbh the idea for a Superman game is always absurd

Guys are on a planet destroyer lvl he has no problem dealing with thugs

He's so op that he can acidently kill villain like bane, two faces or joker with his own farts

Only a handfull of villain in DC universe that can compete with him

It will be much more interesting to see another superhero game like Wonder Women, Aquaman, or Green Lantern since their power are much more scalable for videogames

Superman's powerlevel varies from era to medium . Like Superman in the 90s animated series was extremely weak and knocked out or incapacitated frequently by a host of villains. You could make a game around a Superman at that level.

The key though is making a game around him and not trying to simply plug him into the common open world formula.

 

[MayauMiao]

Why not a Nightwing game?

When it comes to investing millions in developing a game and pleasing investors, Batman is the safest bet due to the immense popularity of the character. Nightwing still can't come close in terms of marketability.

 

[TacosNSalsa]

Superman's powerlevel varies from era to medium . Like Superman in the 90s animated series was extremely weak and knocked out or incapacitated frequently by a host of villains. You could make a game around a Superman at that level.

The key though is making a game around him and not trying to simply plug him into the common open world formula.

I loved the series but to be honest I wouldn't want to play a Superman game like that . At that time in comics (which I was reading pretty regularly) this was a dude that escaped the pull of a black hole . He broke through the space/time barrier to punch death in the face . He threw a solar system away from earth... I know I'm ranting but he was one of my favorite characters for a while and would love to see a game do him proper .I just don't think it could happen. It's like he's either op or woefully underpowered ...I dunno ..

 

[MetalSlug]

Shame it's not Batman Beyond

 

[lucius]

Hope it’s true I like Origins even.

 

[Golgo 13]

I don’t believe it for a second, sorry. Arkham Knight was their final attempt, they made it very clear from the release. I don’t see how they could possibly have more to add to the Batman universe.

 

[DonF]

Rocksteady-san Doesn't Have To Make Batman Games Any More

 

[deriks]

Well, I loved every Batman from them, so it's ok. But I really wanted something different than Batman.

 

[KonradLaw]

I don't mind that at all. The simple fact is no other rumored projects would make as fun game as Batman. Dude still has the best move set, setting and villains. So sure, bring me new Batsy.

 

[RiccochetJ]

The Return to Arkham package was recently on sale for $10 and I dove in for a marathon. Both games are absolutely fantastic. Then I loaded up Arkham Knight again to see if my thoughts on it had changed. I must have had rose colored glasses on the previous two games because Arkham Knight is absolutely amazing. Maybe I was just burnt out on the series and was blind to what they had accomplished with that game.

If Rocksteady wants to make a new Arkham Batman game, I'm in wholeheartedly.

 

[SpaceNoodles007]

If it's another Arkham game, and one with much less batmobile, and more batman, AND BOSSES, then I'm allllllllll for it!

 

[SpaceNoodles007]

Would nut if they did a Batman with this exact art direction.

Always wanted the team to also make a Batman Beyond game!

Ya lol. That art deco style is superb, very "gotham" like.

 

[Kagey K]

Why not a Nightwing game?

I’m sure Nightwing will make a cameo, if not have his own section in the game, but I think I’d rather play an entire game as TTG Robin before I’d play a Nightwing or Damian game.

TTG Robin could just yell random shit as I’m trying to stealth in and screw up the entire section and it might still be more enjoyable then those two characters.

 

[SpaceNoodles007]

I’m sure Nightwing will make a cameo, if not have his own section in the game, but I think I’d rather play an entire game as TTG Robin before I’d play a Nightwing or Damian game.

TTG Robin could just yell random shit as I’m trying to stealth in and screw up the entire section and it might still be more enjoyable then those two characters.

Yes to Nightwing, for sure. What's TTG Robin?

 

[Kagey K]

Teen Titans Go! Very funny kids cartoon.

 

[dirthead]

 

[SonicSleuth]

Looks like they are trying to make what Arkham Knight should have been, but people are kind of tired of this concept already.

I feel like all these "people are done with these games" people don't realize the top selling game, Spider-Man, is proof that... no, they are not.

 

[FranXico]

I feel like all these "people are done with these games" people don't realize the top selling game, Spider-Man, is proof that... no, they are not.

Spiderman has enough differences in the gameplay loop to feel fresh. Doesn't say anything about Arkham fatigue.

 

[plushyp]

Why not a Nightwing game?

So..... you want Dick, eh?

I’m sure Nightwing will make a cameo, if not have his own section in the game, but I think I’d rather play an entire game as TTG Robin before I’d play a Nightwing or Damian game.
TTG Robin could just yell random shit as I’m trying to stealth in and screw up the entire section and it might still be more enjoyable then those two characters.

I'd agree about Damian but considering how funny the GCPD Lockdown DLC was, I'd play an entire game based on Nightwing and Lucius trading quips.

 

[dirthead]

I feel like all these "people are done with these games" people don't realize the top selling game, Spider-Man, is proof that... no, they are not.

Spider-Man is just popular (isn't he the most profitable super hero?). Even the shitty Spider-Man games sold okay. A competent one was bound to be huge even if it isn't great. It's a weird outlier and not proof of anything. Also fanboyism guarantees that any platform exclusive will have above average sales for what it is.

It isn't like it's general Batman fatigue. It's specifically ARKHAM fatigue. They can't just keep doing this Arkham shit. You can do another Batman game but do a different take on it. Do one based on the Frank Miller Dark Knight series or something, you know? At least it wouldn't just be MORE.

 

[xviper]

since fans hated Arkham knight, the only way to get this game insanely hyped is to make it a PS4 exclusive, even if it sucked ass, people would still consider it a masterpiece

 

[Hulk_Smash]

The open world thing is completely played out, I never want to see the word "Arkham" again. Really, Asylum was the best one because it was basically a Metroid game where you played as Batman. The tighter focus actually made for a better game. Not sure when they're ever going to get it. Less is more.

Each new Batman has been "look at the bullet points of new shit we added" yet they're all worse than Asylum.

Holy shit we actually agree on something. lol! I think I’ve said literally everything you just said about the Arkham games. I loved Asylum and hated City. I wish AAA would ditch open world for a while and do something a bit tighter narratively and gameplay wise.

 

[Shifty]

Title: Next game IS Batman
Actual: Next game RUMORED to be Batman

Come on now.

Also I hope it's not Batman. We've had plenty of caped crusader games from Rocksteady i recent years. I want to see something fresh.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I tell you what, if they just gave me Origins with a better remaster treatment than the other Arkham games Ill be happy.

Very happy.

 

[Strife In a Teacup]

I'm sure there was a thread at Resetera about this rumour and the insiders debunked it and the thread was locked/deleted?

I think I remember reading it here before on oldgaf actually. Was one of the first rumors if I remember right. Court of Owls, Damien game, TMNT, Superman, Justice League, now back to Court of Owls?

Maybe all the development hell of whatever they're really making for next gen forced them to go back to the initial idea of the Batman Court of Owls game to recoup some costs or something and then finish up/rehash whatever it is they wanted to make for next gen.