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[danielberg]

The turn around we went through from the 90's-00's of "video games don't cause violence. stfu and let me play my games" to "gamers are a mistake...this promotes violence...blah blah etc" is scary.

And its coming from vidja journalists lol Its like the industry needs some crazy arch enemy ala jack thompson or they just do the job themselves.
The one that hurts the most losing to this nonsense is giantbomb have not watched a video from them in years.

 

[Simply_Bry]

That's actually insane. 475k subscribers gone just because some crazy feminists claimed it "promoted violence".

Let that sink in for a second. A video about killing a feminist.. promoted violence.. in Red Dead Redemption 2, a videogame where the protagonists are murderous outlaws.

Yes but men are terrible beings. Especially middle class white heterosexual cisgendered men. They deserve to die. Women on the other hand don't ever do anything wrong. They never manipulate people with their beauty or tears, they never cheat and they most certainly never report false rape accusations.

 

[Domisto]

can we now put an end to the senseless racist goomba persecution, npcs need our love, someone mod RDR2 to replace all guns with a box of chocolates

 

[danielberg]

The only dumb are those who use the term SJWs.


Sound like bunch of im



Not quite getting the whole, 'Title of the video' part are you?

You have no right at all talking about "not getting something" you are basically blind.

 

[Hendrick's]

 

[The Incarnation]

You have no right at all talking about "not getting something" you are basically blind.

Yeah, couldn't see that list of videos about killing feminists and their titles.

You're absolutely correct.

In the blindness of my mind, I wilfully ignored them.

 

[Elcid]

Not really, when you have a habit of making brutal complilation videos, and then make not just one video but two or three about killing a feminist (Who isn't a really a feminist, but someone rightfully desiring the right to vote) in isolation, then you're just drawing trouble to yourself. Especially within weeks of a few nutters trying to assassinate left leaning politicians in reality.

Shame really, he was one of the few channels that I subscribed to, since he tends to shut his mouth in his videos.

It's not Rockstars fault that people use their work and twist it into something else, to promote or glorify whatever.

And ultimately it was the title of the video which was the issue, not so much the video itself.

Except it's a videogame. I always play evil when I play videogames and kill everyone I can. Someone barking at me the entire time I'm in a town that can be heard from the distance would definitely get my special attention too regardless of their cause. This shit is ridiculous.

 

[danielberg]

Yeah, couldn't see that list of videos about killing feminists and their titles.

You're absolutely correct.

In the blindness of my mind, I wilfully ignored them.

As someone that grew up in the 80-90s sorry i can only laugh at you because you are a joke, i literally cant take you serious at all.

 

[Whitecrow]

Well, he went too far.
It was not just a joke, or two, it was dedication.

It was clear since the first video that something would happen, but closing the entire channel? I was not expecting that.

 

[LightofRohan]

The other forum is shocked at this poor game characters death, they can't believe it and are talking about how all males are horrible.

Such a fucking hypocritical view they have.

 

[The Incarnation]

Except it's a videogame.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[bilderberg]

Well, he went too far.
It was not just a joke, or two, it was dedication.

It was clear since the first video that something would happen, but closing the entire channel? I was not expecting that.

dedication to what? getting views? that's the whole point of youtube. You either think video games promote violence and wish to abolish all similar content, or you don't. Which is it?

 

[Vlightray]

He should have watched out!

 

[HotPocket69]

Dunno why he thinks Jim Sterling will have his back

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

Fuck this. Just for those that dont know, this guy makes awesome gameplays of many games. Very very deep knowledge of Gran Turismo.....respected guy in the community and now this is bannable? Killing an NPC in game? In fucking Spiderman you kill people. Are they insane.

 

[The Incarnation]

As someone that grew up in the 80-90s sorry i can only laugh at you because you are a joke, i literally cant take you serious at all.

I grew up in the 70s. Back when we capitalised the letter 'I' for fear of mockery.

 

[danielberg]

Sony censoring weeb games, youtube censoring in game violence (for selected cases) oh boy we are going back to the old days no wonder we didnt get a new Mortal Kombat announcement can you imagine fatalites against women?
Oh wait those are not a issue or maybe they will be again who knows the precedent is all fucked and based on manufactured sjw outrage, your player character getting raped in rdr2 is ok or is it?
What about the next gta? Its all bullshit based on hurt fee fees.

 

[Vlightray]

It's the titles he used and the people he "triggered" which of course has resulted in this.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Dunno why he thinks Jim Sterling will have his back

I would love to hear his mental gymnastics on this issue though. Would make for some ripe grade A lol's.

 

[danielberg]

I grew up in the 70s. Back when we capitalised the letter 'I' for fear of mockery.

So you have seen the bullshit over the years and still side with the same bullshit today lol

 

[Aurelian]

It seems like all the people saying "omg hypocrisy you can kill men but kill one woman and you're banned" conveniently ignored that he posted multiple videos going out of his way to kill women in the game because they were feminists.

This is not like killing a character that happens to be a woman. Even if it's a 'joke,' he was glorifying violent misogyny. I'm not going to feel sympathy for him.

 

[danielberg]

It seems like all the people saying "omg hypocrisy you can kill men but kill one woman and you're banned" conveniently ignored that he posted multiple videos going out of his way to kill women in the game because they were feminists.

This is not like killing a character that happens to be a woman. Even if it's a 'joke,' he was glorifying violent misogyny. I'm not going to feel sympathy for him.

So? He did the same for basically every other group (which wasnt a issue until muh feminist) in the game bet you didnt know that, which isnt shocking cause informing yourself is a lost art.
Again we are talking about a shooty shoot video game you know pew pew dead npcs*100. Thing is he explained in a interview that he initially did this cause she is placed in a annoying location constantly screaming over a nearby shopkeeper you know the typical small gaming annoyances it wasn't a "political statement" like some want to believe.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It seems like all the people saying "omg hypocrisy you can kill men but kill one woman and you're banned" conveniently ignored that he posted multiple videos going out of his way to kill women in the game because they were feminists.

This is not like killing a character that happens to be a woman. Even if it's a 'joke,' he was glorifying violent misogyny. I'm not going to feel sympathy for him.

So do video games incite violence or not? YouTube's reason is that it "incites violence". A wealth of peer reviewed studies for the past 20+ years, even from liberal academia cite otherwise (hint: no correlation of real world violence).

So which is it?

And if so... then all violent videos must be removed on their platform, eh?

 

[CrustyBritches]

The future is coming on...

 

[Aurelian]

So? He did the same for basically every other group (which wasnt a issue until muh feminist) in the game bet you didnt know that, which isnt shocking cause informing yourself is a lost art.

I do know he did that, but the point is that he still posted videos going out of his way to kill a feminist. It's not the intent, it's the effect and knowing better. You should probably think twice before you post a video on any site explicitly talks about killing feminists, especially in light of gaming culture's recent history of men who genuinely wanted feminists dead.

 

[RoboFu]

Yeah he went too far. He didn’t do it just for fun. Probably more to do with gaining views than actual pushing a agenda but he knew what he was putting into those titles.

 

[nkarafo]

Lets ban all game channels then. Most games have you killing someone. They all promote violence. Let's go.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

I do know he did that, but the point is that he still posted videos going out of his way to kill a feminist. It's not the intent, it's the effect and knowing better. You should probably think twice before you post a video on any site explicitly talks about killing feminists, especially in light of gaming culture's recent history of men who genuinely wanted feminists dead.

No, he didn't. He posted videos of him killing a video game character in a video game.

 

[Owari]

Yet Logan paul, someone who literally filmed a corpse with no remorse, has his series release and monetized videos. Fuck YouTube.

According to YouTube: NPC lives > Real lives

 

[odhin]

I do know he did that, but the point is that he still posted videos going out of his way to kill a feminist. It's not the intent, it's the effect and knowing better. You should probably think twice before you post a video on any site explicitly talks about killing feminists, especially in light of gaming culture's recent history of men who genuinely wanted feminists dead.

You wot m8?

Anyway, "going out of his way to kill a feminist" is bad unlike going out of the way to kill... any other random NPC because why again?

 

[Snoopycat]

I'm laughing at the thought of him being so desperate he went crying to Yong Yeah and Jim Sterling for protection. Although Yong's such a drama whore he probably left skid marks on his carpet getting to his pc.

 

[Endless Fluff]

I dont think you can auto ban a half-million subs account just that "easy". At least I hope that would never work like that, its preposterous

Did you forget about Youtube Heroes?
https://youtube.googleblog.com/2016/09/growing-our-trusted-flagger-program.html

Google lets the Community decide. If a videos gets enough flags, it comes under review/gets and auto ban.

 

[jufonuk]

Read post 12 and wait what?!? If that’s true that’s bonkers as hell man

 

[The Incarnation]

So you have seen the bullshit over the years and still side with the same bullshit today lol

This generation is the worst of the lot, and reason for this bollocks.

So you have seen the bullshit over the years and still side with the same bullshit today lol

Don't side with shit. Merely stated the reason for the lad's ban. Harsh, but understandable. The minute his name was mentioned in the Guardian, he was fucked.

The right institigate, the left inflame.

Got to keep that fire burning.

Most of you seem comfortably warm.

 

[mckmas8808]

Did he say anything offensive when he killed the woman NPC?

 

[#Phonepunk#]

I grew up with Doom mods and even made a custom level based on my own school. It’s called using art and media to relate to the world. Yes in games you shoot people but this does not mean I’m real life you shoot people. Media doesn’t work like that. If I listen to Led Zeppelin I don’t instantly start boning some medieval chicks either.

Dude was too high profile, you can get away w all kinds of stuff if you subtle about it. Those video titles probably scared google’s ad buys

 

[danielberg]

I'm laughing at the thought of him being so desperate he went crying to Yong Yeah and Jim Sterling for protection.

That is funny jim sterling lol might as well appeal to anita sarkeesian.

 

[Can't decide]

I do know he did that, but the point is that he still posted videos going out of his way to kill a feminist. It's not the intent, it's the effect and knowing better. You should probably think twice before you post a video on any site explicitly talks about killing feminists, especially in light of gaming culture's recent history of men who genuinely wanted feminists dead.

Why should feminists be put on a pedestal higher than everyone else's and why should we walk on eggshells around them? I thought it was supposed to be about equality? There's no equality in giving feminists special treatment over others.

 

[Hendrick's]

He should have watched out!

I'm going to have nightmares.

 

[danielberg]

Did he say anything offensive when he killed the woman NPC?

Nope it was game audio.

 

[Ptownrich]

Calling a historical representation of a lady fighting for women's rights an "annoying feminist" is twattish behavior. Celebrating and glorifying violence against someone for being a feminist deserves a ban.

YouTube and others social media platforms haven't an ethical duty to not promote this kind of thinking.

For those who disagree with the ban or think of the videos are harmless fun / right now to free speech... Genuine question for you all:

In 1930s Germany, Hitler produced media vilyfying jews and promoting violence against them. Do you think he was fine to be expressing his thoughts right to free speach? If YouTube was around then, do you you think it should have hosted his videos?

For those saying "it's just violence against women in the game, no difference to the violence against men" - are you deliberately ignoring the word "feminist" in every video title?

Serious questions, help me understand why you you think glorifying violence against women who were fighting for the right time vote is OK?

 

[odhin]

Did you forget about Youtube Heroes?
https://youtube.googleblog.com/2016/09/growing-our-trusted-flagger-program.html

Google lets the Community decide. If a videos gets enough flags, it comes under review/gets and auto ban.

Oh yeah I've heard about that.
Probably forgot, or really never believed that to be the case (the automatic channel bans based on a sole number of reports), because like I've said, thats just ridiculous. If that would be the case for every and any channel on the platform, a lot of big channels would have been already removed certainly and no one would be "safe" (ala pewdiepie).

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Straight in with Hitler. lol

 

[Zeusexy]

Is this an out of season april fool's joke?

 

[bilderberg]

Calling a historical representation of a lady fighting for women's rights an "annoying feminist" is twattish behavior. Celebrating and glorifying violence against someone for being a feminist deserves a ban.

YouTube and others social media platforms haven't an ethical duty to not promote this kind of thinking.

For those who disagree with the ban or think of the videos are harmless fun / right now to free speech... Genuine question for you all:

In 1930s Germany, Hitler produced media vilyfying jews and promoting violence against them. Do you think he was fine to be expressing his thoughts right to free speach? If YouTube was around then, do you you think it should have hosted his videos?

For those saying "it's just violence against women in the game, no difference to the violence against men" - are you deliberately ignoring the word "feminist" in every video title?

Serious questions, help me understand why you you think glorifying violence against women who were fighting for the right time vote is OK?

she isn't real

 

[DeepEnigma]

Straight in with Hitler. lol

Goodwin's Law never fails.

 

[Norse]

Had he titled the videos as "annoying lady" instead of feminist would it have mattered?

 

[Zaffo]

Serious questions, help me understand why you you think glorifying violence against women who were fighting for the right time vote is OK?

You do understand that the figurines that appear in your television when you boot up a videogame, are not real life people, right?

 

[mckmas8808]

I don't think he got banned for just one video:

OH this is the guy's history?!?! No wonder he got banned. He was asking for it. No self respecting person would create video like this, with those titles and think they should be safe from a ban. This dude is trash.

 

[The Bloody-Nine]

Goodwin's Law never fails.

Imagine bringing up what Hitler perpetrated against the Jewish people in a thread about killing a video game character. What an utterly vile individual.