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[YouTube] Shirrako's account reinstated after killing feminist NPC in RDR2 [Restored: Read OP]

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
AKA: Censorship is fine as long as its of things I don't like.

Again how about people posting videos promoting violence agaisnt the police, is that ok? Didn't we also agree that video game violence doesn't lead to irl violence.

YouTube has pulled down videos that I've liked before. I just know and understand the rules and move on.
 

Lort

Banned
Any comments about this being left or right wing agenda is a diversion .. does the right wing think we should stop banning ISIS videos on youtube because it dosent want white racists banned? Of course they dont. Its just politics.
 

Ptownrich

Member
No. They. Didn't. It obvious who has seen his channel before and who are jumping to sensattionalist nonsense.

His channel was not about "killing feminists"

I know, but the videos in question were.

There's thousands of videos of female NPCs being killed in Skyrim, why haven't they been banned by the the SJW conspiracy?
 

oagboghi2

Member
AKA: Censorship is fine as long as its of things I don't like.

Again how about people posting videos promoting violence agaisnt the police, is that ok? Didn't we also agree that video game violence doesn't lead to irl violence.
Something tells me he would be cool with cop killing in a game
 

Lort

Banned
I know, but the videos in question were.

There's thousands of videos of female NPCs being killed in Skyrim, why haven't they been banned by the the SJW conspiracy?

I know, but the videos in question were.

There's thousands of videos of female NPCs being killed in Skyrim, why haven't they been banned by the the SJW conspiracy?


Domestic violence kills more people than car accidents .. and almost all are women.

Conspiracy means secret agenda..
Is the conspiracy to reduce domestic violence?
 

oagboghi2

Member
I know, but the videos in question were.

There's thousands of videos of female NPCs being killed in Skyrim, why haven't they been banned by the the SJW conspiracy?
Because the guardian never wrote nonsense articles about them. Because Skyrim came out at a time when leftists were less fucking insufferable, and understood videogames aren't reality.
 
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iconmaster

Banned
I don't think he got banned for just one video:
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I'm not surprised YouTube took action.

Whether terminating the whole account is justified is another question but this is some real poking the bear here.
 

Lort

Banned
Look how many people are ignoring my posts ...

Noone wants to admit the real issues

Our whole society including government system is based on “community expectations” .. get over it.

The “conspiracy” if it exists is to reduce domestic violence.

The right wing claiming the left is for censorship is the pot calling the kettle black.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Domestic violence kills more people than car accidents .. and almost all are women.

Conspiracy means secret agenda..
Is the conspiracy to reduce domestic violence?

Are you equating actions in a video game to real world domestic violence?

Are you saying video games correlate to real world domestic violence? Jack Thompson, where you at?

I guess they need to pull all the police/civilian killing videos as well, no? For the sake of equated consistency.
 

goldrush80

Neo Member
Look how many people are ignoring my posts ...

Noone wants to admit the real issues

Our whole society including government system is based on “community expectations” .. get over it.

The “conspiracy” if it exists is to reduce domestic violence.

The right wing claiming the left is for censorship is the pot calling the kettle black.
This is America, if we dont like sopmething we dont get over it. We protest it.We attack it. We fund against it. We lawyer up.
 

RedVIper

Banned
Look how many people are ignoring my posts ...

Noone wants to admit the real issues

Our whole society including government system is based on “community expectations” .. get over it.

The “conspiracy” if it exists is to reduce domestic violence.

The right wing claiming the left is for censorship is the pot calling the kettle black.

I'm really confused on how you got to domestic violence in the first place, I guess that thats why people are "ignoring" your posts.
 

Lort

Banned
Are you equating actions in a video game to real world domestic violence?

Are you saying video games correlate to real world domestic violence? Jack Thompson, where you at?

I guess they need to pull all the police/civilian killing videos as well, no? For the sake of equated consistency.

Im saying the agenda that everyone keeps talking about is undefined. If it exists which is debatable is to reduce domestic violence .. and other people have argued that we shouldnt kill police or anyone in video games .. i actually believe in limited free speech .. i think killing anyone in games and movies is fine.. but i dont think we should allow groups of people to advocate to incite violence against others.

Killing someone in a game is fine.. a video of someone dying by accident on yourube is fine.. a video of someone claiming we should kill someone else is not.

Dosent matter if that other is a woman, the police, a politician a christian or a muslim.

Wow did i just write out the terms of service of almost every multinational company ... funny that.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Im saying the agenda that everyone keeps talking about is undefined. If it exists which is debatable is to reduce domestic violence .. and other people have argued that we shouldnt kill police or anyone in video games .. i actually believe in limited free speech .. i think killing anyone in games and movies is fine.. but i dont think we should allow groups of people to advocate to incite violence against others.

Killing someone in a game is fine.. a video of someone dying by accident on yourube is fine.. a video of someone claiming we should kill someone else is not.

Dosent matter if that other is a woman, the police, a politician a christian or a muslim.

Wow did i just write out the terms of service of almost every multinational company ... funny that.

Only "violence" it is inciting is that of virtual characters (NPCs), nothing more. Funny that.
 
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Lort

Banned
The posts of most people here are like oh i cant download my video of someone enjoying killing a woman .. this sucks .. somehow i dont see any of you claiming we should reupload videos of ISIS inciting violence of Americans.. all in the name of free speech.

You all believe in limited 1 sided free speech. I believe in even handed limited free speech as is worded in the terms of service of facebook and youtube. Also there is the consitution and the anti descrimination laws that were written into democracies around the world.

Descrimination based on religion or other forms is what America was based on .. at least it used to be .... now its juts a bunch of winging kids who want to laugh at punching women in the face for free speech but want all ISIS and muslim free speech banned.
 

NickFire

Member
At the end of the day this will hurt the people who advocate for this kind of deplatforming more than they can imagine or ever would like to believe. Their voices are loud on twitter, but wallets speak louder, and several years of this nonsense has gotten them killed politically. Sure, their ilk can issue subpoenas in a short time frame from now. What a wonderful consolation prize.
 

Enygger_Tzu

Banned
So, Lort Lort how often do you practice intellectual swordmansip on that strawman of yours? Because I would believe you need way more practice.
 
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Yoshi

Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Going out of your way to kill npcs for having political opinions you do not like and to make provocative videos of that to piss of a good share of humans is incomparable to the "normal" murders in games. The intention is clearly bad and I find it OK that Youtube bans for that.
 

Lort

Banned
Rockstar will not be patching it out of the game.. the problem with the videos is not that it shows someone killing a woman ( which is fine in games).. the problem is they show killing her because she IS a woman.

Isnt killing a woman in a game for shouting our her beliefs a form attempting to kill free speech?!?

Lol that got you thinking.
 

nkarafo

Member
No the multiple video titles are clearly the main thing here.

I see.

How about these titles?

GTA 5 Killing civilians,Getting into IAA Building & Having fun!

GTA 5 Kills First Person, Killing Police and Civilians, Fun/Brutal Kill

GTA 5 Funny/Brutal Kills Cop Killing (mostly) Episode 21


Youtube is filled to the brim with clickbait titles and content like this. So, either ban everyone or let everyone do it. Enough with the double standards, the cherry picking and the special treatment.
 
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Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
There's no such thing as a "pattern". The guy had TONS of RDR2 videos. They weren't all about this feminist NPC. There were plenty of videos about other subjects and most of the times he dedicated more than one video for each. This feminist NPC was one of the many subjects. It only looks bad because you see them separated from the others in one place, as if these were the only videos he made.

Edit: Sorry for double post
No need to be hostile.

Hence why i say seem, which i usually do on things i am either not 100% certain about or that don't have 100% my interest. You can discard that part of my opinion then and uphold the rest.

If it isnt a pattern then its a combination of manual reports and the algorithm doing its wrongful work.
 

Lort

Banned
I see.

How about these titles?

GTA 5 Killing civilians,Getting into IAA Building & Having fun!

GTA 5 Kills First Person, Killing Police and Civilians, Fun/Brutal Kill

GTA 5 Funny/Brutal Kills Cop Killing (mostly) Episode 21


Youtube is filled to the brim with clickbait titles and content like this. So, either ban everyone or let everyone do it. Stop with the double standards and special treatment.

Yes these should be banned as they are counter to the terms of service.

If you all want to see change you should write to youtube and insist they follow their terms of service evenly.

Then start your own site that allows all inciting violence videos .. or only viodes that incite violence for your prefered target. Which one would you choose?
 

Pallas

Member
Yes, you are. You may not mean to tell people to kill feminists, but that's the message you're providing. You do know that kids watch these gameplay videos, right? And that sexists will latch on to videos like that to spread their message, even if they don't intend to kill people? Even from a cynical perspective, YouTube probably doesn't want its reputation stained by hosting videos with "kill feminist" titles.It was in poor taste, and he should've known better.

So if the videos were named differently, and the content stayed the same, you believe they wouldn’t be targeted?

Another question

He’s done several videos displaying creative ways to kill individuals from different demographics and YouTube apparently had no problem with this, but these videos they do? What if someone modded President Trump into GTA5 just to display creative ways to kill him, would that be ok?

Also, if this gets creators in trouble then should all the videos displaying creative ways to kill other groups should be removed(there are a lot of cop killing videos on YouTube from GTA5)

I’m not saying the videos were done in good taste, but I thought the reasoning of the ban “promoting violence” was bullshit when one of the entire premise of the game is to cause violence and disorder.

Back to the original point of the bolded part of your comment, if it’s truly because of what he named the videos in question, then YouTube at the very least should have warned him and tell him to edit the names. I agree that he should have named them a bit better, that goes with all of those videos that have him showing ways of killing fictional NPC’s in RDR2.

Calling a historical representation of a lady fighting for women's rights an "annoying feminist" is twattish behavior. Celebrating and glorifying violence against someone for being a feminist deserves a ban.

YouTube and others social media platforms haven't an ethical duty to not promote this kind of thinking.

For those who disagree with the ban or think of the videos are harmless fun / right now to free speech... Genuine question for you all:

In 1930s Germany, Hitler produced media vilyfying jews and promoting violence against them. Do you think he was fine to be expressing his thoughts right to free speach? If YouTube was around then, do you you think it should have hosted his videos?

For those saying "it's just violence against women in the game, no difference to the violence against men" - are you deliberately ignoring the word "feminist" in every video title?

Serious questions, help me understand why you you think glorifying violence against women who were fighting for the right time vote is OK?

You had me until you compared the YouTuber’s videos to Hitler’s regime. Could you not think of a better analogy?
 
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nkarafo

Member
Yes these should be banned as they are counter to the terms of service.

If you all want to see change you should write to youtube and insist they follow their terms of service evenly.

Then start your own site that allows all inciting violence videos .. or only viodes that incite violence for your prefered target. Which one would you choose?
Youtube will never apply those rules evenly. If they ban all the game channels that "promote violence",a large part of the site content would be lost, along with the views. Whatever the consequences that comes with it.

So all they do is cherry pick. This is actually pretty consistent with what the left does. Double standards is their game.
 
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ILLtown

Member
LOL @ people comparing this guy to Hitler or ISIS.

When you "incite" something, it means that you're urging or persuading someone to do something. You have to be literally batshit crazy to think that these videos are urging people to go out and tie real feminists to train tracks or to feed them to crocodiles or to harm them in any way.

It's blatantly obvious what the issue is here for the identity politics peddling SJWs. It's that the NPC is a feminist. That's literally all it is. They got all offended and played their usual game of "let's make a mountain out of a molehill to try and turn a silly video into an incitement of real life violence that puts real women in danger!", but all that does is make you look like you've lost your fucking minds.

People comparing this guy to ISIS or Hitler shouldn't be allowed near sharp objects.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
I see.

How about these titles?

GTA 5 Killing civilians,Getting into IAA Building & Having fun!

GTA 5 Kills First Person, Killing Police and Civilians, Fun/Brutal Kill

GTA 5 Funny/Brutal Kills Cop Killing (mostly) Episode 21


Youtube is filled to the brim with clickbait titles and content like this. So, either ban everyone or let everyone do it. Enough with the double standards, the cherry picking and the special treatment.

Yeah those are awful to and make it very hypocritical of you tube. Still doesn’t make his titles any less horrible.
 
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Calling a historical representation of a lady fighting for women's rights an "annoying feminist" is twattish behavior. Celebrating and glorifying violence against someone for being a feminist deserves a ban.

YouTube and others social media platforms haven't an ethical duty to not promote this kind of thinking.

For those who disagree with the ban or think of the videos are harmless fun / right now to free speech... Genuine question for you all:

In 1930s Germany, Hitler produced media vilyfying jews and promoting violence against them. Do you think he was fine to be expressing his thoughts right to free speach? If YouTube was around then, do you you think it should have hosted his videos?

For those saying "it's just violence against women in the game, no difference to the violence against men" - are you deliberately ignoring the word "feminist" in every video title?

Serious questions, help me understand why you you think glorifying violence against women who were fighting for the right time vote is OK?

I don't often post much, especially in contentious topics but I'm honestly having trouble believing this is a real post.

It's not often that I genuinely wish for a "dislike" button.
 

nkarafo

Member
Yeah those are awful to and make it very hypocritical of you tube. Still doesn’t make his titles any less horrible.
Horrible or not, if the other channels are allowed to stay, his channel should too.
 
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bilderberg

Member
The posts of most people here are like oh i cant download my video of someone enjoying killing a woman .. this sucks .. somehow i dont see any of you claiming we should reupload videos of ISIS inciting violence of Americans.. all in the name of free speech.

You all believe in limited 1 sided free speech. I believe in even handed limited free speech as is worded in the terms of service of facebook and youtube. Also there is the consitution and the anti descrimination laws that were written into democracies around the world.

Descrimination based on religion or other forms is what America was based on .. at least it used to be .... now its juts a bunch of winging kids who want to laugh at punching women in the face for free speech but want all ISIS and muslim free speech banned.

The difference being ISIS's goal is specifically to incite violence and fear. To make the comparison you're making you would need to outline how violence in games incites real world violence, which from decades of research is bullshit. Even the most fervent free speech people aren't going to advocate it's okay to scream 'bomb' on an airplane or 'fire' in a crowded place.
 
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