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[Anustart]

I'm on both places, but sadly most active there because of the ffrk community. As some have said in here, the moderation over there is out of whack and I spoke out on it in a topic just the other day.

Said topic got shut down and a person banned but not for the reason they should have been banned.

 

[Guiberu]

Real talk @NeoGAF @EviLore -- How do we get user activity back up to pre-RE levels? Is there a hope in hell of this ever happening again? Are activity trends still seeing positive inflection?

The most valuable part of GAF was the insanely high user activity that turned this site into the best real-time breaking news aggregator I had ever seen. I learned about some of the most important stories of the past decade within MINUTES of it happening - well before CNN would break the news. Now RE has the users and the excellent user activity, but the alt-left moderation makes the site an unusable echo chamber.

Look on the first page of RE off-topic. Half of the threads show the latest post "a moment ago" (i.e. <1 min). Now look at GAF. It's still like a graveyard.

I don't have the answers. I know some will say "I like the slower pace these days!" but that's not true for the vast majority of people. Activity > content >> activity >>> content >>>> etc.. Maybe there needs to be some kind of mass sign-up drive. Or some kind of incentive system to get people to post more/create more threads. Hopefully smart people than me have better ideas.

Very much this.

Though ask yourself ; would you want Patrick Klepek back here?

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[JORMBO]

I posted for a few months when it went live and eventually left. Too much anger and overeactions to everything. I'm Jewish and Republican so I am basically Satan over there. I shouldn't have expected much since it contains all the people that left this place posting porn and acting like asshats.

 

[The Giant]

Both of my accounts got banned for resetera. I just lurk on era these days.

 

[888]

Hell No. I never registered there because I knew the crowd that was forming it.

 

[Kayhan]

While I agree that the moderation of ResetEra is....problematic....the problem for GAF is that a lot of the best known users who contributed so much to make old GAF what it was migrated to ResetEra when GAF almost died.

 

[dropkick!]

Real talk @NeoGAF @EviLore -- How do we get user activity back up to pre-RE levels? Is there a hope in hell of this ever happening again? Are activity trends still seeing positive inflection?

The most valuable part of GAF was the insanely high user activity that turned this site into the best real-time breaking news aggregator I had ever seen. I learned about some of the most important stories of the past decade within MINUTES of it happening - well before CNN would break the news. Now RE has the users and the excellent user activity, but the alt-left moderation makes the site an unusable echo chamber.

Look on the first page of RE off-topic. Half of the threads show the latest post "a moment ago" (i.e. <1 min). Now look at GAF. It's still like a graveyard.

I don't have the answers. I know some will say "I like the slower pace these days!" but that's not true for the vast majority of people. Activity > content >> activity >>> content >>>> etc.. Maybe there needs to be some kind of mass sign-up drive. Or some kind of incentive system to get people to post more/create more threads. Hopefully smart people than me have better ideas.

People outside still think gaf is a leftist hivemind... I cant blame them since that sour taste still hasnt left

 

[Ecto311]

Hell No. I never registered there because I knew the crowd that was forming it.

I registered over there because I didn't know if this place was coming back at all at first. Then within maybe 10 posts got banned over there and never really went back even to lurk. Why lurk a shithole like that - just an echo chamber of fringe dickheads.

 

[bonchooski]

I registered over there because I didn't know if this place was coming back at all at first. Then within maybe 10 posts got banned over there and never really went back even to lurk. Why lurk a shithole like that - just an echo chamber of fringe dickheads.

What did you do to get banned

 

[0ptimusPayne]

Yup. Chillin until the servers are back up, and getting the fuck out. Gaf looking different, not seeing a lot of interesting threads these days.

 

[haxan7]

What did you do to get banned

I'm going to guess it involved simultaneously having an independent or normal thought while not making enough of a concession to people with severe mental illness.

 

[longdi]

I always have the suspicion that Resetera admins have a hand in the whole migration saga. Something about how fast the mass hysteria got out of control and how fast they got the servers up. Hmm..

Fair game to them though, passive profits in the long haul?

 

[brap]

Yup. Chillin until the servers are back up, and getting the fuck out. Gaf looking different, not seeing a lot of interesting threads these days.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

Nah, still exploring

 

[Dunedain_Ranger]

I signed up when everything went down but after like three days i knew where it was going glad I didn’t jump to any conclusion over the madness and waited until things cooled down it was insane

 

[FuturusX]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

 

[haxan7]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

Yes, they took the twisted heart and soul that NeoGAF of the latter years became. The actual, original, worthwhile one is still here.

 

[brap]

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

They took the heart and soul and threw it in a blender. But some of you probably liked oldgaf when you weren't allowed to have your own thoughts and opinions so of course you'd love resetera. This is more of a gaf pre-2014 sweetie.

 

[caffeware]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

 

[Kagey K]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

 

[Cunth]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

Resetera took the cancer

 

[doctorcdcs]

I am. I still pop on here from time to time to browse though even after the split.

Both places have their good and bad points.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

My ignore list is 10 miles long on Era compared to the small amount I’ve accumulated on Gaf over the years, but fuck I’m trying to figure out what this place is now after the divorce. The creative peeps are definitely gone especially on the gaming side. It’s nice as hell that you don’t seem to have to walk on eggshells on here now, but man some of these comments lmfao. Smart to have the political shit separate, cause it’s a fucking cesspool on both sites apparently.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you on the REAL GAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

Your the first to come and say that here. The others like you who came here said Gaf died many years ago. Way before Pct 2017... and Gaf killed it.

The only thing that followed Resetera from here was the reputation built here and some of the people who gave it that. And some how made it even worse than it was here. At least that’s what I’ve read numerous times on Reddit.

Gaf fame around the internet ended after the PS4 reveal. Kaz Gifs and Cboat was it’s last meaningful impact. After that it was just a joke about how far left it was. You took the reputation, used the Gaf name to promote the site but unfortunately for you... you will only ever be cringy old Gaf.

The last big news about Neogaf was Oct 2017. And the only times Resetera is ever mentioned in a relevant way (more than 25 views on YouTube) is how retard the site is. “Resetera fails to stop Kingdom Come” or “Resetera doxxes a gaming employee”. And they only ever say Resetera.. former members of Neogaf.

Who knows what this site will be in time. We are rebuilding after all. Hopefully it won’t be the trash that was here before Oct 2017.

 

[Quonny]

I basically only visit there because I only care about OTs. Posting in anything else is just a waste of time and a risk of getting banned.

That said, this place is dead when it comes to communities. Sadly since the community is there, that’s where I am.

Who am I kidding. It’s all Discord really.

 

[JordanN]

Let's be honest If you are on Resetera you are on the REAL NEOGAF.

Resetera took the heart and soul of GAF in the divorce. I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at here but it sure ain't GAF.

Now perhaps to some of you that's a good thing.

More like Resetera took the toilet and moved out. Now all they do is constantly shit in it.

Look how active Reset is! More bodily movements (shitposts) = more activity.

 

[STI]

fuck no.
that place is a shit hole.

 

[bonchooski]

In the comparison of both sites and divorce, right now it's seems that Gaf is the spouse that lost 80% of their 401k and bank account and Era is living it up

 

[StreetsofBeige]

More like Resetera took the toilet and moved out. Now all they do is constantly shit in it.

Ad that's the weird thing about GAF and Resetera.

GAF has hardly any moderating. You hardly see any bans or mods getting involved. GAF seems to be pretty chill and can govern themselves.

Resetera is a shitstorm even though mods are always banning people 24/7. Constant state of uncontrollable madness no matter how much the mods clamp down with warnings and bans.

 

[FuturusX]

Here's the thing.

The heart and soul of NeoGAF was twisted, cruel, bitter and unforgiving, But it was also playful, unique, inventive and beautiful.

Like most things that spring from the minds of humans it was complicated. This place is, for intents an purposes something new, with an old familiar name.

Enjoy the community that best suits your needs. This is not a question of which is better or worse, It is merely my feeling that if one wants a community that feels mostly like NEOGAF that most had come to know and love / hate. It's Resetera.

 

[womfalcs3]

Resetera took the cancer

But I want James Stevenson back. And the NPD guys.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I do miss some of the gaming chat, it has been watered down a little since the split.

It's hard to even talk about games there without stepping on a landmine. Always some new outrage to get people fired over or cry about while throwing bans around eating other liberals.

They have more activity, but they're a fraction of peak gaf too. Sad all around really.

 

[brap]

But I want James Stevenson back. And the NPD guys.

There's some people I remember back when I was a lurker who were cool. Wonder if they went crazy.

In the comparison of both sites and divorce, right now it's seems that Gaf is the spouse that lost 80% of their 401k and bank account and Era is living it up

Era is the gold digging bitch with the shitty attitude who also took the kids?

 

[bonchooski]

There's some people I remember back when I was a lurker who were cool. Wonder if they went crazy.


Era is the gold digging bitch with the shitty attitude who also took the kids?

But they still got the 80%

 

[Musky_Cheese]

In the comparison of both sites and divorce, right now it's seems that Gaf is the spouse that lost 80% of their 401k and bank account and Era is living it up

I thought it was more like Dodgeball. With New Gaf being Average Joes.

 

[fatty]

Real talk @NeoGAF @EviLore -- How do we get user activity back up to pre-RE levels? Is there a hope in hell of this ever happening again? Are activity trends still seeing positive inflection?

The most valuable part of GAF was the insanely high user activity that turned this site into the best real-time breaking news aggregator I had ever seen. I learned about some of the most important stories of the past decade within MINUTES of it happening - well before CNN would break the news. Now RE has the users and the excellent user activity, but the alt-left moderation makes the site an unusable echo chamber.

Look on the first page of RE off-topic. Half of the threads show the latest post "a moment ago" (i.e. <1 min). Now look at GAF. It's still like a graveyard.

I don't have the answers. I know some will say "I like the slower pace these days!" but that's not true for the vast majority of people. Activity > content >> activity >>> content >>>> etc.. Maybe there needs to be some kind of mass sign-up drive. Or some kind of incentive system to get people to post more/create more threads. Hopefully smart people than me have better ideas.

I think the activity is going to come but it is going to take time. For myself, I'd like to get back to posting 'reference/help' threads again like:

Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread​

​

Working toward Financial Freedom​

...but I just haven't had the time lately, so I'm mainly a lurker with a post here and there. Hopefully if things slow down at work where I am not bringing it home so much I will be able to contribute more here at the beginning of next year.

But I love seeing these type of threads where everyone contributes their thoughts:

​

Netflix |OT| Where Binge Watching is Encouraged​

​

Pro Tips for Life​

​

Why the DS Rocks - Official Game Recommendation Thread​

​

Your favourite remix(es) of game soundtracks?​

Looking at some of my 'watched' threads, I'm going to have to revisit and resurrect them as there are some great threads here.

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One thing I will say is not helpful is looking at the drive-by posts from resetera posters complaining this place and the other gaf posters complaining about these people and the resetera forum...let's just move on. Gaffers, let's leave the resetera talk to this thread: Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here. Heck, I like visiting this thread because there are some crazy examples there, but let's keep it there and ignore the drive-bys. Adding good content is what is going to make this place thrive so let's focus on that and I will try to do my little part.

God bless and be good to each other, life is too short.

 

[dorkimoe]

Both sites are good.

GAF
- Less activity, but I find the discussion better
- Moderated, but not to death. Don't have to post thinking you're on pins and needles
- Good mix of gaming and non-gaming threads. People have opinions, but highly emotional fucktardary is rare

Resetera
- Tons of threads and posts, which is good for variety, but hard to follow. So many posts get lost in the shuffle
- Stupidly moderated. It's like a gun is always aimed at your head and an opinion not liked by a mod or reported by another user leads to insta-ban
- Good mix of gaming and non-gaming threads. People have opinions, and the amount of extreme views, cussing, and insults is off the charts especially in non-gaming threads

GAF is like going to a sports event and sitting close to the action. Much more quiet and a good view of the field. You don't see a security guard in sight. Resetera is like sitting in balcony seating. Also provides a good view, but people can be drunk as fuck. Stadium guards all over the place watching these sections like a hawk.

I haven’t been on gaf much since the explosion. But totally agree with your assessment of era. The mods are fucking insane. I saw a guy get banned for answering an OP’s question with a story of something that he did in his life. And got banned for it. They are the biggest sensitive fuckers I’ve ever seen.

 

[0ptimusPayne]

But they still got the 80%

Make it 85% Shits slow.

 

[Lady Bird]

Ad that's the weird thing about GAF and Resetera.

GAF has hardly any moderating. You hardly see any bans or mods getting involved. GAF seems to be pretty chill and can govern themselves.

Resetera is a shitstorm even though mods are always banning people 24/7. Constant state of uncontrollable madness no matter how much the mods clamp down with warnings and bans.

Resetera was actually a wonderful place to be at for its first 3 months. Their philosophy was that gaf had a wonderful community, and that such community shouldn't be ruined by terrible moderation practices. They wanted to fix that (or so they said) by making a place where everyone was welcome. However, once their member count spike stabilized at ~30k, they doubled down on everything that made old gaf's moderation really bad. It ultimately felt like a bait.

Mods at reset are constantly trying to ban people, closing threads and dictating what kind of opinions are or not allowed there. What they don't seem to understand, however, is that they are the ones responsible for them in the first place. When a moderation team starts banning (many times permanently) a lot of polite users over any glimpse of suspiction or dislike for differing opinions, and protect (and effectively spoil) their favourite posters by turning a blind eye on what they do, the logical conclusion is the "uncontrollable madness" that you speak of: where plenty of protected and therefore spoiled posters cry, moan and spam reports every day, while organizing witch hunts, dogpilling raids and doxxing attempts among themselves at their discord. Meanwhile, your average poster will be either afraid to talk or risk being banned, making it impossible to create a chill atmosphere.

Here's the thing.

The heart and soul of NeoGAF was twisted, cruel, bitter and unforgiving, But it was also playful, unique, inventive and beautiful.

Like most things that spring from the minds of humans it was complicated. This place is, for intents an purposes something new, with an old familiar name.

Enjoy the community that best suits your needs. This is not a question of which is better or worse, It is merely my feeling that if one wants a community that feels mostly like NEOGAF that most had come to know and love / hate. It's Resetera.

Resetera is not very playful, however. The "No Fun Allowed" meme is pretty commonly used there to describe how sensible and overly serious and depressing everything is.

But yes, a part of old gaf's heart and soul migrated there.

 

[dorkimoe]

Ad that's the weird thing about GAF and Resetera.

GAF has hardly any moderating. You hardly see any bans or mods getting involved. GAF seems to be pretty chill and can govern themselves.

Resetera is a shitstorm even though mods are always banning people 24/7. Constant state of uncontrollable madness no matter how much the mods clamp down with warnings and bans.

If this is true and the mods here have relaxed I will gladly come back here. Because basically on resetera you can’t even have a civil conversation if your viewpoint differs in any way shape or form.

 

[Thatonemoor]

Holy Shit my account still works. First time I've been on it in like a year. Anyway yeah I've from era also and I'm also waiting fort the servers to go back up.

Off-Topic: Gaf has a like button now? This fuck????

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Holy Shit my account still works. First time I've been on it in like a year. Anyway yeah I've from era also and I'm also waiting fort the servers to go back up.

Off-Topic: Gaf has a like button now? This fuck????

Welcome back. Yes we have for some time. Here’s a like for you. Also have a bunch of other cool things. Check it all out.

 

[Palliasso]

If this is true and the mods here have relaxed I will gladly come back here. Because basically on resetera you can’t even have a civil conversation if your viewpoint differs in any way shape or form.

You can see for yourself our list of banned users which is now linked at the bottom of the page and make your own assessments. We try to actively cultivate discussion now and usually reserve banning users as a last resort. Occasionally users will be banned from replying to particular threads if they're getting too heated or far off-topic, but this isn't usually employed without us contacting them directly first.

 

[nkarafo]

Nope. Never went there even after the "exodus". I didn't care about late GAF that much anyway since i could barely post something without a chance to get banned. I was happy the whole thing collapsed but i stayed here hoping the admin and the rest in charge could see their mistakes and make this a better forum. So far it's working. Though i'm not sure how lunatic-proof it is knowing that soon, Era will collapse and most of it's users will crawl back here. Hope there's some infrastructure in place to keep them from taking over in the future.

 

[Dr. Claus]

If this is true and the mods here have relaxed I will gladly come back here. Because basically on resetera you can’t even have a civil conversation if your viewpoint differs in any way shape or form.

Basically, as long as you don't personally insult others - you will have a hard time being banned.

 

[Xiaoki]

Yeah, I visit ResetEra because there are people talking about stuff.

Here on NewGAF topics have dried up and some have disappeared like the weekly box office results. Or when there is a news story it takes a while for it to be posted but usually, its never posted.

Just isnt enough discussion on this discussion board.

Also, I REALLY wish both, and I do mean both, were not so obsessed with identity politics. On ResetEra all they talk about is the "alt-right" and here on NewGAF its all about "SJWs".

Maybe more people would be willing to talk here if there wasnt so many comments about SJWs, Leftists, NPCs and cucks(and thats even after the Politics forums).

 

[notaskwid]

If this is true and the mods here have relaxed I will gladly come back here. Because basically on resetera you can’t even have a civil conversation if your viewpoint differs in any way shape or form.

Yeah, it's pretty hard to have racist and sexist viewpoints on resetera without being banned.

 

[Corrik]

Welcome, Era users. Enjoy your stay! Hope you keep coming back!

 

[dorkimoe]

Yeah, it's pretty hard to have racist and sexist viewpoints on resetera without being banned.

Found one. My point exactly.

 

[dorkimoe]

You can see for yourself our list of banned users which is now linked at the bottom of the page and make your own assessments. We try to actively cultivate discussion now and usually reserve banning users as a last resort. Occasionally users will be banned from replying to particular threads if they're getting too heated or far off-topic, but this isn't usually employed without us contacting them directly first.

Good to know. Thanks!