I can understand not being in to it but how is that "tonally inconsistent" exactly? Games like Bayonetta, the entire art direction and design is over the top which matches the story and character design, I don't see how is that "tonally inconsistent"?I personally don't like that sort of thing. It's always so tonally inconsistent and ends up being detracting, one of the reasons i can't get into story heavy Japanese games and anime
That's fine with me, i guess saying always was hyperbole. I'm talking in games like MGS where the story wants to be taken somewhat seriously yet it has titty shots and panty shots.I can understand not being in to it but how is that "tonally inconsistent" exactly? Games like Bayonetta, the entire art direction and design is over the top which matches the story and character design, I don't see how is that "tonally inconsistent"?
The game where a man can run around in a cardboard box on the battlefield? Or fights cyborg ninjas? That serious story?That's fine with me, i guess saying always was hyperbole. I'm talking in games like MGS where the story wants to be taken somewhat seriously yet it has titty shots and panty shots.
I don't know, MGS it has giant mechs with cyborg ninjas and bosses over top design and personality and gameplay you throw porn mags to distract enemies.That's fine with me, i guess saying always was hyperbole. I'm talking in games like MGS where the story wants to be taken somewhat seriously yet it has titty shots and panty shots.
The game where a man can run around in a cardboard box on the battlefield? Or fights cyborg ninjas? That serious story?
The game where a man can run around in a cardboard box on the battlefield? That serious story?
Call me boring but I don't like the campiness neither for the same reason. On one hand these games want to tell this super serious melodramatic story where characters talk endlessly in philosophical jargon and on other hand it's this silly light hearted fun with fart jokes. Swapping between these extremes is very jarring to me. If it were up to me i would tone down the melodrama cause that's when MGS is at it's weakest.I don't know, MGS it has giant mechs with cyborg ninjas and bosses over top design and personality and gameplay you throw porn mags to distract enemies.
Lots of words to just say that "Beautiful women don't exist"
Well then avoid Yakuza games.Call me boring but I don't like the campiness neither for the same reason. On one hand these games want to tell this super serious melodramatic story where characters talk endlessly in philosophical jargon and on other hand it's this silly light hearted fun with fart jokes. Swapping between these extremes is very jarring to me. If it were up to me i would tone down the melodrama cause that's when MGS is at it's weakest.
Way to back up your argument there, chief.
Lots of words to just say that "Beautiful women don't exist"
Nailed it!
Deserve everything that's coming to them? Not our fault your a flamer who's parents probably packed them inside the dashboard of a Ford Festiva to get here.
I admit that sometimes, I feel my misanthropy slip a little and I start to feel a tinge of faith in humanity again. And in those dark moments, I go over to ResetEra and read the "Why Women Complain About Sexualized Character Designs" thread and I am reborn, my bitter sarcasm meter fully recharged.And isnt it nice that there are multiple viewpoints that can get expressed and no bannings.
I personally don't like that sort of thing. It's always so tonally inconsistent and ends up being detracting, one of the reasons i can't get into story heavy Japanese games and anime
Sure, I can back it up. You are virtue signaling on a forum, shaming people for their race and [supposed] privilege. Better yet, you're also assuming people's race and privilege. You're doing this in a method trying to shut people up. You're trying to instill the idea that some people should have no voice because of immutable characteristics they possess such as being white and male.
And while it's a shame your ilk are blind to it, this makes you the racist one. This makes you the sexist one. You and Orwellian useful idiots like you literally try to redefine words like racism to make it impossible to be racist or sexist against white males. How convenient. You tear at individual rights, either too evil or too moronic to realize just how misguided you are. Your path leads to tyranny, but you don't care, til it eats you too.
You've allowed your mind to be infected by an insidious mind virus where you'll happily say 2+2=5, as long as you think it's progressive, you'll be racist and sexist while claiming to fend for the disenfranchised, but really you're just trying to establish yourself one rung higher on some virtue hierarchy.
Like i said, your post is morally and ethically bankrupt, you spread ideas like a plague. That you'd denounce a voice due to the characteristics of the speaker is only one symptom of your double think.
This post can be serious.
This is resetera level logic, man. They used this exact rethoric for banning me once.
This post can be serious.
This is resetera level logic, man. They used this exact rethoric for banning me once.
I prefer the more benign "posturing". Like a peacock showing its feathers. We may not know the internal motivations for it, but there's little doubt that they are showing off.I often think of virtue signaling as a sister fallacy to objectification. Both usually make negative character assumptions about something that couldn't actually be known.
The good news is no one here is going to ban you because people accuse you of virtue signaling.
I often think of virtue signaling as a sister fallacy to objectification. Both usually make negative character assumptions about something that couldn't actually be known.
Isn't always funny how ugly is linked to "realism", yet at the same time we're always told people not wanting to conform to in real life "beauty standards"?
If trying to capture beautiful people in games is wrong, then I expect every Cosmetics Parlor or Beauty Salon should have gone out of business already.
Lots of words to just say that "Beautiful women don't exist"
The author of the post I was objecting to essentially told white males to shut up. They were engaging in identity politics and clearly signing being virtuous by doing so. If they did so unknowingly then that's all the more reason they need to be called out on it.
You tear at individual rights, either too evil or too moronic to realize just how misguided you are. Your path leads to tyranny, but you don't care, til it eats you too.
Like i said, your post is morally and ethically bankrupt, you spread ideas like a plague.
I don't think they mentioned race, that was iyou.
The good news is no one here is going to ban you because people accuse you of virtue signaling.
I often think of virtue signaling as a sister fallacy to objectification. Both usually make negative character assumptions about something that couldn't actually be known.
Huh? My post is clearly anti identity politics and pro free speech and individual. Reset era is none of that.
*Sigh* let's leave it at that, but you guys are surely capable of more forms of debate than "no, u" and "omg virtue signaling"
Only one of this not like the othersHmm, see a trend.
*Sigh* let's leave it at that, but you guys are surely capable of more forms of debate than "no, u" and "omg virtue signaling"
Even mods can do better
Nahh, it's appropriate use of the word. Like the obligatory pool/beach episode and/or onsen episode in anime. Short scenes, alternate costumes to show off some of the female characters. That's fan service.So wanting to see scantily clad ladies is “fan service” now?
That seems.... like the wrong use of that word.
Titilating things can't exist in games anymore? That's the first time I've heard that, and I'm glad of it. What a dumb thing to say.Are pixelated bits of flesh titilating? If they are, that’s why they’re frowned upon in games these days
Fan service is different from porn. How many times does this have to be repeated?There are plenty of special interest “female fan service” (fap service?) websites, images and videos all over the internet - it’s more available than ever in human history. Is it really necessary to have this concern for video games?
Who's said anything about rights? People here lament the loss of certain types of content in games. Doesn't have anything to do with rights.Just seems like a misplaced siege mentality about the eroding of “rights” rather than a genuine issue in video games.
Here, I'll pull up wikipedia for you:Also, it’s not appropriate to conflate the lack of flesh on display with censorship. The developers themselves are voluntarily choosing the art style - it’s not being forced on them by a government body.
Governments and private organizations may engage in censorship. Other groups or institutions may propose and petition for censorship. When an individual such as an author or other creator engages in censorship of their own works or speech, it is referred to as self-censorship. It occurs in a variety of different media, including speech, books, music, films, and other arts, the press, radio, television, and the Internet for a variety of claimed reasons including national security, to control obscenity, child pornography, and hate speech, to protect children or other vulnerable groups, to promote or restrict political or religious views, and to prevent slander and libel.
The less incidents for male gaze the better. I resent the tone and title of the thread, as if it is an issue of concern to begin with. The person who made this thread should be embarrassed with what he put forth.
I don't have an aversion to beautiful things but having beautiful things isn't self evidently good it has to be justified. This is the standard we apply to everything why is this any different?You sound like the life of a party.
I will never understand people who hate beautiful things. Life is short, enjoy the carnal pleasures of beautiful women or men, whatever floats your boat. That is the secret to a happy life.
I don't have an aversion to beautiful things but having beautiful things isn't self evidently good it has to be justified. This is the standard we apply to everything why is this any different?
Think if all the female characters in The Godfather walked in bikini, that would be a bit ridiculous wouldn't you say? The movie would lose its grounded tone and that would be a change for the worse.
I don't have an aversion to beautiful things but having beautiful things isn't self evidently good it has to be justified. This is the standard we apply to everything why is this any different?
Think if all the female characters in The Godfather walked in bikini, that would be a bit ridiculous wouldn't you say? The movie would lose its grounded tone and that would be a change for the worse.
Why do people want sexy outfits? What's the importance?
Just realized how important blinking is to overcoming the uncanny valley.SJWs in a nutshell.
It’s wrong to please the oppressors of minorities.Because it offers the straight (white) male demographic a more visual pleasure, is it wrong?
I didn't advocate for censorship.So why instead of having to change...of having to censor games that you don't like, play games you like, problem solved.
Also, by the very first moment you introduce a female soldier/warrior/fighter/hero that tackles the issue just as well as males...verisimilitude is lost.
It’s wrong to please the oppressors of minorities.
lol imagine playing overwatch and mobas in 2018Overwatch,MOBA'S, and hero shooters