V2Tommy
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Anime vaginas have bones?
You’re not that dense, are you?
I’m worried I even have to ask.
Anime vaginas have bones?
While I do like cute loli/moe anime stuff, I in no way get off on it nor have I ever yanked off to such shit. I'm not a fan of the naked scenes myself but eh, I don't mind that they're there either.
I have always hated censorship in games/anime/manga and people telling me what I can enjoy however.
That hasn't changed for me since the early 90s, nor will it ever.
It’s disgusting honestly. It’s pedophilia disguised as weeb art.
Absolutely disgusting.
Is it really the right thing to be shooting down a strawman?Seriously guys, how old does that little girl on the left look? Some of these Japanese games are blurring the lines of child pornography more than Sony is comfortable with.
I know we all need something to be outraged over, but is this really the right thing to be fighting about?
Good thing it is not what you claim, like at all.
Congrats! You've just made a Complex Question Fallacy!its not what I claim? It’s not about catering to the sick and disgusting sexual desires of predators?
You sure?
BULLSHIT
Seriously guys, how old does that little girl on the left look? Some of these Japanese games are blurring the lines of child pornography more than Sony is comfortable with.
I know we all need something to be outraged over, but is this really the right thing to be fighting about?
Is it really the right thing to be shooting down a strawman?
Strawman? What? Do you know what that term means?
I'm talking directly to the people who are upset about these images being censored. They've been posting on this thread.
Yes, I do know what a strawman is and you were addressing a strawman argument by misconstruing the reasons why people oppose censorship. You don't like the actual reasons, so you try to label those people as perverts and pedophiles to make them look bad.Strawman? What? Do you know what that term means?
I'm talking directly to the people who are upset about these images being censored. They've been posting on this thread.
Censorship advocates resorting to character assassination. So shocking, you hypocrites...Pedophiles defending their interests. So shocking you sick fucks
Yes, because as the censorship of DOAX 3 Scarlet shows, the apparent age of the characters has little bearing on what Sony are censoring. Besides, Neptune is not a child.
I'm pretty absolutist on this: I oppose any restriction on freedom of expression with the exception of material that requires abuse to produce, or is a direct incitement to violence.
Not an argument. Directly address the arguments made against censorship rather than engaging in mere pontification.There’s few things I don’t mind censoring. And the interests of child predators are one of them.
Yes, I do know what a strawman is and you were addressing a strawman argument by misconstruing the reasons why people oppose censorship. You don't like the actual reasons, so you try to label those people as perverts and pedophiles to make them look bad.
Overall, you're not interested in debate. You're more interested in character assassination.
Censorship advocates resorting to character assassination. So shocking, you hypocrites...
How is it child pornography, and why should I care if the characters are fictional and parents can control what they buy and what their children play? There's no empirical evidence that suggests that "sorta", "kinda", "borderline" child "pornography" causes any problems other than hurting your sensibilities.No. I oppose censorship in almost every case. I'm more against it than most. THIS is the exception because it is walking (and crossing imo) the line of child pornography.
Then you can just ignore it. Case closed.I’m not talking about censorship. I have zero problem with any company keeping such filth away from everyone. Just because Japan is a bit more friendly to pedophililia doesnt mean it shouldn’t be treated with complete prejudice. It should... without a doubt
Ok. We have this 12 year-old girl, but we need to have a nudge shot of her because our audience demands it.
That's illegal in most countries, should we remove the scene?
Nah, let's just say she's 23 and keep everything else the same. As long as she still LOOKS 12 our audience will still enjoy it.
How is it child pornography, and why should I care if the characters are fictional and parents can control what they buy and what their children play? There's no empirical evidence that suggests that "sorta", "kinda", "borderline" child "pornography" causes any problems other than hurting your sensibilities.
Then you can just ignore it. Case closed.
Nice try trying to shift the focus from "sorta", "kinda", "borderline" child "pornography" to actual child pornography. Not taking the bait.You realize child pornography isn't illegal to keep kids from seeing it, right?
Da fuck? CP is straight up illegal in Japan. The hell are you talking about?I’m not talking about censorship. I have zero problem with any company keeping such filth away from everyone. Just because Japan is a bit more friendly to pedophililia doesnt mean it shouldn’t be treated with complete prejudice. It should... without a doubt
Seriously guys, how old does that little girl on the left look? Some of these Japanese games are blurring the lines of child pornography more than Sony is comfortable with.
I know we all need something to be outraged over, but is this really the right thing to be fighting about?
its not what I claim? It’s not about catering to the sick and disgusting sexual desires of predators?
You sure?
BULLSHIT
Ok. We have this 12 year-old girl, but we need to have a nudge shot of her because our audience demands it.
That's illegal in most countries, should we remove the scene?
Nah, let's just say she's 23 and keep everything else the same. As long as she still LOOKS 12 our audience will still enjoy it.
Yup. A fucked up niche genre.Ok. We have this 12 year-old girl, but we need to have a nudge shot of her because our audience demands it.
That's illegal in most countries, should we remove the scene?
Nah, let's just say she's 23 and keep everything else the same. As long as she still LOOKS 12 our audience will still enjoy it.
I should also add that pornography has a rather explicit meaning. Pornography is content that is exclusively purposed for sexual arousal. To claim that these anime games contain pornography, let alone child pornography, you first have to prove that the content is exclusively for sexual arousal. Just because you got aroused from an anime game, doesn't mean that the content of that game was only meant for that purpose.
I'm getting a little sick of being lectured on censorship by people who obviously don't have a god damn clue what censorship is. Now, it's my turn to lecture you. A private issue between two companies is still "censorship!!!OMFGBBQ" because private companies can still censor each other, and a store not carrying canned peaches is a fucking different issue than the store forcing the canned peaches to replace the peaches with ham if they want to be carried by the store. The fact that you don't realize this means... you know what? Fuck it.
I don't demand that everybody I discuss censorship with be a constitutional scholar, but I can not stand people who revel in ignorance while trying to shame everybody else. If you want to join a conversation at the adult table, you need to put your big boy pants on. You need to bring something better than trite platitudes and shame if you want to join this conversation. That kind of shit ruined NeoGAF once before. Let's not go down that road again.
LOL.I should also add that pornography has a rather explicit meaning. Pornography is content that is exclusively purposed for sexual arousal. To claim that these anime games contain pornography, let alone child pornography, you first have to prove that the content is exclusively for sexual arousal. Just because you got aroused from an anime game, doesn't mean that the content of that game was only meant for that purpose.
Name me an anime that actually has that purpose. If you manage to find that show, do you know what will be my initial reaction? I'll be laughing my ass off because of the absurdity. In this hypothetical scenario, I will have been entertained by the comedic value of this hypothetical show, not be aroused by it.LOL.
That's like saying it's ok for a tv show having 12 year old girls displaying their panties in different poses, with the intent of educating the audience which are the best and most comfortable ones to buy.
I don't care about content like these games and hentai. Don't even watch porn.There’s few things I don’t mind censoring. And the interests of child predators are one of them.
I am an eater of Doritos, not the innocence of anime youth. Also, how would you knowBoth of those images are censored. There's just a little more white steam on the PS4 version.
There's still plenty of underage-looking anime skin for you perverts to yank off to regardless of which platform you play on.
I'm in my mid-forties, and I always thought one of the advantages of getting older would be people stop treating me like a child. But what I've found is, the older I get, the more people treat me like a child. I can't enjoy what I want, I can't eat what I want, I can't do what I want, I can't think what I want, and I can't be who I want. And yet, when it's time to change my diaper, none of these assholes are around to help.
Yes, for now we see the multiplats on other platforms with no censorship, but who's to say that Sony doesn't cook up some contract saying "absolute parity of all version if you want to release on our console!"
It wouldn't be unheard of
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/microsoft-supposedly-forced-parity-on-division-1.1465458/
So, yeah. If the market leader implements some bullshit policies to censor games for their platform, everyone should be at least a little worried about the implications that might have on a wider scale.
Probably not as dense as vagina bonesYou’re not that dense, are you?
I’m worried I even have to ask.
I've never understood the complaints about the 10,000 year old dragon thing. It always seemed like selling beer to me. If someone is 35 years old, but gets carded when they go to buy beer, are they prevented from buying the beer because they look young? No, of course not. Because the problem with alcohol, and the reason we don't allow people under 21 to drink it, has nothing to do with how someone looks.Providing us with such beautiful games such as these, where I can behold the wonderful scanty appearance of [999+ year old] cartoon characters in their greatest glory.
It is exactly what he claims.Good thing it is not what you claim, like at all.
It is exactly what he claims.
It looks like children and it is not children? Yeap.Considering they are not children it isn't pedophilia. What are you on about?
Who is the victim in a video game?It looks like children and it is not children? Yeap.
It is like a pedophilian saying he didn’t know the victim was a minor lol when the victim looks exactly like a minor lol
It looks like children and it is not children? Yeap.
It is like a pedophilian saying he didn’t know the victim was a minor lol when the victim looks exactly like a minor lol
I am curious, have you ever been to any Asian country? There are plenty of adult women who look like kids and kids who look like adult women. I would suggest you look up Cheedon0904, who is 29 but looks no older than 15-16, Marina Nagasawa who is 23 but looks like an elementary schooler, or 十早z who is a 35 y/o woman who looks like a middle schooler (just to name a few). There are hundreds of thousands like them (and the same goes for men). Whether you are attracted to that or not, I don't particularly care. However, immediately assuming/stating that it is "pedophilic" is a bit inane. Petite women exist, mate.
Plus, let's not forget that
1.) These are not humans, nor are they real. They are anthropomorphized verisons of consoles (with Neptune being based around the canceled Sega System, the Sega Neptune).
2.) The character is not a child, nor is she 12. If anything, she is a petite character, which as has previously been discussed, people like that completely exist in the real world.
Irrelevant to what I said.Quoting myself to save time:
29 year olds still in school wearing school outfits and carrying books?Quoting myself to save time:
Wut?Who is the victim in a video game?
It's a tireless argument. Some people are attracted to kids. Since they can't live out their fantasy in real life (unless they want to get arrested), it's quirky upskirt anime and hentei games over mainstream pornhub.Irrelevant to what I said.
Just because there are old girls that looks like children didn’t mean you can use children in a sexual way in any type of media that have the goal of enjoyment and not shock via drama to make you think that is wrong.
They are animation based in humans.
The character looks exactly like a child.
But it is really fine to be attracted by kids? I suppose when I look to a kid I remember of my own children... I have no desire or attraction for my children in that way.It's a tireless argument. Some people are attracted to kids. Since they can't live out their fantasy in real life (unless they want to get arrested), it's quirky upskirt anime and hentei games over mainstream pornhub.