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hariseldon
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Ah those might have been better to quote then. I don't even know who he is tbh but if that's true then he is equally twatty.
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Brie Larson Isn’t Letting Her ‘Captain Marvel’ Press Tour Be ‘Overwhelmingly’ White and Male
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Ah those might have been better to quote then. I don't even know who he is tbh but if that's true then he is equally twatty.
He plays Captain America in the MCU.
Kinda weird to not know who he is considering how hugely popular Avengers and Captain America movies are.
Avengers: Endgame is coming in april.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
In the context of this thread, this was trending on social media as well as being promoted everywhere due to her new film.
Don't be obtuse and use of whataboutism, if you want a thread about them make a threat about them.
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Sure, you may be right.
However I find this forum to have some kind of a hate-boner for Brie, from her not smiling in the trailer(s), to her being a bad casting choice for no reason, for her talking about diversity, which is one of the main elements in Marvel.
Marvel is built upon diversity and social justice.
Like the X-Men for example was built upon the idea of people fighting for social justice and civil rights.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
She does it to herself. Swap the races and the sexes in the topic at hand, and she would be called a racist and a sexist.
So...
"Whatabout if you swap the sexes and races?"
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hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
I don't watch those. I like good films.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
That's not whataboutism, it's proving a point that what she said is not only racist but sexist as well.
You don't even need to swap them, was the point.
I do too, Blade Runner 2049 was my favorite movie in 2017. However MCU movies are very enjoyable movies.
There's a reason they are popular.
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5secondrulesucks
Banned
^ this guy 100 percent gets mad if you call pop music bad. he also probably loves anime
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
Agreed on the education side of things, but the amount of IT dudes I’ve seen that are asocial to the point of cannot deal with a woman at all, tend to close ranks, be generally so socially weirdly adjusted etc etc. it’s not hard to imagine a woman trying to break into this environment are going to find it hard. That combined with the real path to success being a good network of contacts and you must admit, there is a real chance of imbalance and unfairness there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if dudes in female dominated industries feel the same way, male nurses maybe (I dunno, guessing a bit).
Anyway, I kind of swung this topic towards IT...
I have actually never had any interest in anime, never have been, the closest I have come to anime is the Xenoblade games.
I have tried one anime series long time ago, but never found it interesting.
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hariseldon
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@catfish that'll be the autism. Autism makes great programmers but not such great social skills. Not sure you can blame someone for a disability, socialising is hard when you have autism. If you don't have it, you don't understand just how much effort it is, it's physically draining.
I spent time working as a teacher in Asia and was largely accepted but in the UK as a teaching assistant (I planned to get qualified and teach over here) I found the environment very unwelcoming, with no disability to explain it. Women play politics in ways that men just can't. Plus the constant presumption that any man in education is there to fuck kids is a real downer. I went back to IT as people in IT aren't arseholes.
I spent time working as a teacher in Asia and was largely accepted but in the UK as a teaching assistant (I planned to get qualified and teach over here) I found the environment very unwelcoming, with no disability to explain it. Women play politics in ways that men just can't. Plus the constant presumption that any man in education is there to fuck kids is a real downer. I went back to IT as people in IT aren't arseholes.
Why the need to run defense for Brie Larsen?
TheGreatLeon
Banned
The creators of Captain Marvel:
You guys, outside. Yuck.
You guys, outside. Yuck.
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FullTilt18
Banned
She's unattractive, not a good actress, and overwhelmingly racist towards white people. Why would anybody like her at all?
pel1300
Member
Is it true that Brazilian Marvel fans made this photoshop after Brie was promoting the movie in Brazil to show them they didn't find her that all that hot?
As a huge MMA buff and Brazilian JJ practicioner in high school since 2001...I've been familiar with Brazilian women and their reputation for having that Chung Li/Marvel comic super heroine physique through working their glutes and thighs like crazy in the gym.
"They aren't made for you" -MASTERFUL marketing and PR at work here.
She is the first I've seen of the MCU or even SW cast to actually talk like this.
I trust Feige....but I also can't shake off the feeling that the MCU has been under pressure by the media about not having a female led MCU film. Criticized for not having a solo Black Panther film. So he might be doing this partly in response to that because of the amount of pressure.
I'm sure the movie could very well be good like Black Panther. The difference being:
The whole politicizing Black Panther last year was more on the media. It was the journalists who kept relentlessly begging the cast to talk about how special it was to portray strong, black, female warriors.
It even crossed over to the press tour for Infinity War......you had the entire MCU cast there to answer questions....and I wanted to hear from the other MCU actors who we hadn't seen in a long time...but NOOOOO.....they had to keep harping on asking Black Panther questions for the entijre 20 or 30 minutes. I got nothing new out of it. What a waste.
This is different....this time Brie herself is right in there....being so negative about things that are already improving. Movie critics have been getting more and more liberal and praising movies with all female casts and diverse casts....and yet she chooses 2018 and 2019 to bitch about it?? She's a moron.
BTW to whoever was asking about Chris Evans.......
I read through Chris Evan's twitter. Yes, he doesn't like Trump. But he normally chooses his targets...like picks his battles.
Chris Evans is fine with being friends with Republicans as long as he feels they are decent people even if he doesn't agree with their politics. He isn't a Resetera member.
He is friends with a Republican Senator.
He seems to mainly feud with Steve Bannon, Trump, and David Duke.
He's more of a Mark Hamill type of Hollywood liberal....not full retard like Brie has been acting.
As a huge MMA buff and Brazilian JJ practicioner in high school since 2001...I've been familiar with Brazilian women and their reputation for having that Chung Li/Marvel comic super heroine physique through working their glutes and thighs like crazy in the gym.
She said "I don't need some 41 year old white dude telling me what to like. They aren't made for you" -On why she wants more non-white male movie critics after A Wrinkle in Time got trashed by critics.
"They aren't made for you" -MASTERFUL marketing and PR at work here.
She is the first I've seen of the MCU or even SW cast to actually talk like this.
I trust Feige....but I also can't shake off the feeling that the MCU has been under pressure by the media about not having a female led MCU film. Criticized for not having a solo Black Panther film. So he might be doing this partly in response to that because of the amount of pressure.
I'm sure the movie could very well be good like Black Panther. The difference being:
The whole politicizing Black Panther last year was more on the media. It was the journalists who kept relentlessly begging the cast to talk about how special it was to portray strong, black, female warriors.
It even crossed over to the press tour for Infinity War......you had the entire MCU cast there to answer questions....and I wanted to hear from the other MCU actors who we hadn't seen in a long time...but NOOOOO.....they had to keep harping on asking Black Panther questions for the entijre 20 or 30 minutes. I got nothing new out of it. What a waste.
This is different....this time Brie herself is right in there....being so negative about things that are already improving. Movie critics have been getting more and more liberal and praising movies with all female casts and diverse casts....and yet she chooses 2018 and 2019 to bitch about it?? She's a moron.
BTW to whoever was asking about Chris Evans.......
I read through Chris Evan's twitter. Yes, he doesn't like Trump. But he normally chooses his targets...like picks his battles.
Chris Evans is fine with being friends with Republicans as long as he feels they are decent people even if he doesn't agree with their politics. He isn't a Resetera member.
He is friends with a Republican Senator.
He seems to mainly feud with Steve Bannon, Trump, and David Duke.
He's more of a Mark Hamill type of Hollywood liberal....not full retard like Brie has been acting.
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Attractiveness is subjective, but why do you care about that anyways? How do you know she will be bad in this movie? You don't trust Feige and Finn? Why do you see her as a bad actor?
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Fnord
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More than that, she's been vocally supportive of a "charity" Indiegogo to raise money to send underprivileged girls to see the movie. Think about that for a moment. She's giving her blessing for people to donate money to purchase tickets to a movie she's in. Rather than petition Marvel/Disney to set up some free screenings for these girls, she's cheerleading something that benefits her directly - financially - and painting it as some kind of moral high ground.
I was actually willing to look past some of this stuff (the "HER... O" thing in the first trailer, for instance). I rolled my eyes, but figured that Marvel hadn't let me down yet. But yesterday I took double the amount of money I would have spent on tickets to see Captain Marvel and donated it to a charity that feeds underprivileged children and coaches their parents on how to cook nutritious food and make what little money they have go further. I figured that was a lot more useful than sending kids to a movie.
Fnord
Member
I don't know that I've ever seen anything with her in it, so all I have to go on are the trailers for this film. And I don't recall ever seeing an actor so seemingly bored out of their skull in a movie trailer before. Every line that comes out of her mouth sounds like she wishes she were somewhere else, doing anything else. I wasn't/am not on the "she needs to smile more" wagon. I don't care that she's a woman. Don't care about any of that stuff. But to get ME interested in the movie, the lead actress needs to seem at least interested in what she's doing. She doesn't.
lock2k
Banned
Is it true that Brazilian Marvel fans made this photoshop after Brie was promoting the movie in Brazil to show them they didn't find her that all that hot?
As a huge MMA buff and Brazilian JJ practicioner in high school since 2001...I've been familiar with Brazilian women and their reputation for having that Chung Li/Marvel comic super heroine physique through working their glutes and thighs like crazy in the gym.
She said "I don't need some 41 year old white dude telling me what to like. They aren't made for you" -On why she wants more non-white male movie critics after A Wrinkle in Time got trashed by critics.
"They aren't made for you" -MASTERFUL marketing and PR at work here.
She is the first I've seen of the MCU or even SW cast to actually talk like this.
I trust Feige....but I also can't shake off the feeling that the MCU has been under pressure by the media about not having a female led MCU film. Criticized for not having a solo Black Panther film. So he might be doing this partly in response to that because of the amount of pressure.
I'm sure the movie could very well be good like Black Panther. The difference being:
The whole politicizing Black Panther last year was more on the media. It was the journalists who kept relentlessly begging the cast to talk about how special it was to portray strong, black, female warriors.
It even crossed over to the press tour for Infinity War......you had the entire MCU cast there to answer questions....and I wanted to hear from the other MCU actors who we hadn't seen in a long time...but NOOOOO.....they had to keep harping on asking Black Panther questions for the entijre 20 or 30 minutes. I got nothing new out of it. What a waste.
This is different....this time Brie herself is right in there....being so negative about things that are already improving. Movie critics have been getting more and more liberal and praising movies with all female casts and diverse casts....and yet she chooses 2018 and 2019 to bitch about it?? She's a moron.
BTW to whoever was asking about Chris Evans.......
I read through Chris Evan's twitter. Yes, he doesn't like Trump. But he normally chooses his targets...like picks his battles.
Chris Evans is fine with being friends with Republicans as long as he feels they are decent people even if he doesn't agree with their politics. He isn't a Resetera member.
He is friends with a Republican Senator.
He seems to mainly feud with Steve Bannon, Trump, and David Duke.
He's more of a Mark Hamill type of Hollywood liberal....not full retard like Brie has been acting.
It's true that someone in a Brazilian forum photoshopped a bigger butt in her. I did some digging and found it.
Also, yeah, there are a lot of women here with curvy bodies. Totally true. Brie's ass doesn't bother me at all though. Funnily enough, my wife has a body that is more american/european than a common Brazilian chick.
I think Brie looks good. What I don't like about her is her way of thinking.
strange headache
Banned
That's the most self-congratulatory and narcissistic thing I've heard all week. Schopenhauer is probably rotating in his grave right now.
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
Narcissistic women in the west feel "oppressed" because the world does not give them whatever they want on a silver platter, no questions asked, not because they're experiencing any true oppression.
You will not find a more entitled human being, maybe in all of human history, than a modern day self described feminist white woman.
You will not find a more entitled human being, maybe in all of human history, than a modern day self described feminist white woman.
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Pretend? Calm down., you're not the only person here allowed to have opinions.
Anyway, your hypothetical with Chris Pratt (which is a completely different situation from the quote we were discussing earlier) would probably be racist. Black people are generally under represented in the media, so Pratt would have to do some explaining if he thinks there should have an even smaller presence. I'm surprised you even have to ask this.
Peroroncino
Member
wtf does that even mean lol
Grinchy
Banned
It's not a different situation. Someone said they have a problem with white men interviewing her and reviewing her movies. It's such a simple concept to reverse that and show that anyone saying that they have a problem with black people interviewing them and reviewing their movies would be seen as a racist.
It doesn't cease to be racist just because it's about white people. Butter that up any way you want. I bet you're one of those people who cling to a revised definition of racism written by some sociologist (a scam subject, btw) to justify saying that only white people can't be on the receiving end of racism.
Terrible_Majesty
Member
I’m still gonna watch it. Ironically Kevin Feige a white male is overseeing the MCU and has final say. Once they replace him for diversity’s sake, watch the MCU go the way of Mary Sue Star Wars
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
The comment wasnt that he/she/whoever had a problem with white people interviewing them. It was that they wanted to see more non white people present on these press tours.
There is not about white people being treated unfairly. If the organizer of an islamic conference that drew only Pakistani people made a comment that he wanted to see more people from outside of south asia to attend the next conference, it wouldnt be racist. If a Buddhist conference had only Sri Lankans show up, it wouldnt be racist to say you would like more East Asians to show up. Wanting more diverse reprsentation is not racism.
I dont know why you keep making idiotic predictions about me. It doesnt help make your point. It just shows that youre not taking the time to actually read what I have to say.
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DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I can't wait to see the movie but instead of denying white males the chance to participate in her press junket, why not just include more POC and women journalists and POC/women owned websites?
FullTilt18
Banned
It's a zero-sum game.
If the organizer held the Buddhist conference in Sri Lanka and then cried about the crowd being mostly Sinhalese...
If the organizer held the islamic conference in Pakistan and then cried about the crowd being mostly Punjabis, Pashtunes, and Sindhis...
I fixed your comparisons so that they actually made sense.
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McCheese
Member
Prof X didn't tell beast to piss off because he already had too many blue mutants.
5secondrulesucks
Banned
this is such a bad argument because it just totally ignores any kind of context that was given. instead of actually taking what she said and many of other things she has said in the past and present it as if it was this first off clean comment. also people really need to stop with the representation angle. white people rallying for representation. get out of my face
KormaChameleon
Member
Captain Sexist and Racist is sure turning out to be a great film.
Mihos
Gold Member
Is it true that Brazilian Marvel fans made this photoshop after Brie was promoting the movie in Brazil to show them they didn't find her that all that hot?
As a huge MMA buff and Brazilian JJ practicioner in high school since 2001...I've been familiar with Brazilian women and their reputation for having that Chung Li/Marvel comic super heroine physique through working their glutes and thighs like crazy in the gym.
She said "I don't need some 41 year old white dude telling me what to like. They aren't made for you" -On why she wants more non-white male movie critics after A Wrinkle in Time got trashed by critics.
"They aren't made for you" -MASTERFUL marketing and PR at work here.
She is the first I've seen of the MCU or even SW cast to actually talk like this.
I trust Feige....but I also can't shake off the feeling that the MCU has been under pressure by the media about not having a female led MCU film. Criticized for not having a solo Black Panther film. So he might be doing this partly in response to that because of the amount of pressure.
I'm sure the movie could very well be good like Black Panther. The difference being:
The whole politicizing Black Panther last year was more on the media. It was the journalists who kept relentlessly begging the cast to talk about how special it was to portray strong, black, female warriors.
It even crossed over to the press tour for Infinity War......you had the entire MCU cast there to answer questions....and I wanted to hear from the other MCU actors who we hadn't seen in a long time...but NOOOOO.....they had to keep harping on asking Black Panther questions for the entijre 20 or 30 minutes. I got nothing new out of it. What a waste.
This is different....this time Brie herself is right in there....being so negative about things that are already improving. Movie critics have been getting more and more liberal and praising movies with all female casts and diverse casts....and yet she chooses 2018 and 2019 to bitch about it?? She's a moron.
BTW to whoever was asking about Chris Evans.......
I read through Chris Evan's twitter. Yes, he doesn't like Trump. But he normally chooses his targets...like picks his battles.
Chris Evans is fine with being friends with Republicans as long as he feels they are decent people even if he doesn't agree with their politics. He isn't a Resetera member.
He is friends with a Republican Senator.
He seems to mainly feud with Steve Bannon, Trump, and David Duke.
He's more of a Mark Hamill type of Hollywood liberal....not full retard like Brie has been acting.
http://sciencefiction.com/2018/08/14/marvel-seeking-butt-double-one-avengers/
Grinchy
Banned
lol I've read enough about what you have to say to know that those predictions about you were right. If you are going to claim that Brie Larson doesn't have a problem with white, male reviewers or interviewers, then go ahead and be clueless.
But now you're the one presenting different situations. It would be pretty obvious why an Islamic conference could be mostly Pakistani or a Buddhist conference could have a lot of Sri Lankans. And what a stupid statement it would be if someone looked around the room at one of those conferences and said, "Damn. What's up with all the Pakistani males up in here? I knew there was a diversity problem and we need less of these Pakistanis in the room right now to solve it."
You don't see why that would be the kind of reaction to such a natural observation that only would come from a nitwit?
Papa
Banned
She did not say "I would like to see more black females interviewing me".
She did say "I started paying attention to what my press days looked like and the critics reviewing movies, and noticed it appeared to be overwhelmingly white male".
Surely you can see the difference?
Vicetrailia
Member
Manbabies the thread.
I don't have a problem with what she said, but how is she going to get more representation I wonder.
I don't have a problem with what she said, but how is she going to get more representation I wonder.
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Cunth
Fingerlickin' Good!
Vicetrailia
Member
ipukespiders
Member
Announcement: White guys? LOL no thanks
You: .............
Response: Fine, I'm not watching your movie
You: Manbabies!
Grinchy
Banned
I went to the hospital recently and the nursing staff was overwhelmingly black and female. I want more nurses of paleness. I don't need some old black lady telling me what to think of my health condition. I want to know what white men think about it.
I've learned that it's totally not racist to have that thought running through my head while at the hospital.
I've learned that it's totally not racist to have that thought running through my head while at the hospital.
Cunth
Fingerlickin' Good!
Nice tag fella
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Vicetrailia
Member
It rules the world right, can't beat em, join em. Now he can donate even more to charity and obtain generational wealthn or whatever.
Considering that calling me that would be like calling Kaepernick broke, I'm gonna say that it's really not for me, ironically.
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5secondrulesucks
Banned
brie larson has an abnormally square head
Papa
Banned
Z..
Member
MCU, despite being mostly mindless entertinment, has it's moments... however, it's about as Mary Sue as you can get.
Lupingosei
Banned
Isn't this better than all the hate, mobbing or death threats you get within the ya fiction community or the animation community.
You will probably not get a death threat for liking Captain Marvel, but if you think Adora and some guy would be nice couple. Good luck with that.
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